Originally posted by Elite Hunter
^ I don't think LOTF is Luke at his peak,(though not by a big amount) I'd say honor belongs to NJO Luke.
r u serious? Lotf luke is the one that holds caedus motionless without lifting a finger, when caedous knew he was coming and was getting ready for a possible fight to the death.
LOTF luke is the one that fools Jacen into believing that there is an entire battle fleet around, and making a fool out of him in the process, despite Jacen's own force "mastery"
LOTF luke is the one that defeats Jacen in hand to hand combat in a duel in which everything Jacen pulls is countered by luke (garrotte included, i just re-read that fight in the novel) Caedus pulls the same move with Luke that he pulled with Katarn, and Luke was free 2 seconds later. Luke had another opportunity to kill Jacen, but stopped to talk to ben (another stupid move by luke i admit, mebbe luke wasn't his smartest by LOTF)
LOTF luke is the one that is changing Jacen's visions without Jacen ever knowing he was doing it, these the visions of a Sith Lord, akin to Yoda doing that to Sidious, when Yoda couldn't even figure out where the sith was, much less forsee anythign himself. If that doesn't put Luke's ability CONSIDERABLY above Jacen's at that point, then how about:
LOTF Luke was the one who managed to possibly be in two places at once (or at least have the ability to project a solid illusion, which probably means he learned the technique of alema rar and Lumiya) so that Jacen never even figured out if he was fighting one opponent or two.
LOTF Luke knows shatterpoint, and we don't have any proof that he knew it in NJO.
I think the main problem isn't Luke isn't as strong there, or that Sidious being stronger than caedus makes sidious as strong as luke, the problem is, Caedus is not nearly as CLOSE to luke as everyone likes to imply by one fight that went on for more than a page. Caedus himself admits he lost that fight. Luke is constantly someone Jacen fears. Caedus did nothing but almost lose duels to people on a completely different tier than Luke (Jaina, (did lose, and lost an arm in an earlier duel... i know, i know, surprised at the beginning, but he's a freaking Sith Lord on his own turf, i don't give him much credit for getting surprised like that, he even knew Jaina was looking for him and on board the ship the second time.) Aurra Sing, One random mandalorian who supposedly could have easily killed him, Mara, ) He never absolutely curbstomped anyone to show his power. (mebbe the jedi he fought in Betrayal...) He himself was defeated at every turn and tricked by his underlings MORE THAN ONCE. What does he do that puts him anywhere near Luke's level?
My take on that Sidi-boys post is that Luke and Caedus are on completely different tiers. Luke could have finished Jacen anytime he wanted.