Classic Beyonder/Specter vs. Living Tribunal/Thanos w/IG

Started by quanchi1128 pages

Originally posted by fangirl101
um where did you see me say anything about the spectre? i'm talking about the Lt now. Ok? now that we got that str8.
Oh my bad I read it quickly. That would be true but they were both in the same story and Beyonder actually had him scared to even pick a fight with him.

I think the Lt knew he had no chance in a direct confrontation.
That should speak volumes to you.

Originally posted by quanchi112 Oh my bad I read it quickly._ That would be true but they were both in the same story and Beyonder actually had him scared to even pick a fight with him.I think the Lt knew he had no chance in a direct confrontation.That should speak volumes to you.
no it does not. what would speak volumes to me is a direct confrontation between the beyonder and someone with some actual feats beyond multiversal. that, and only that, would speak volumes to me.

Originally posted by fangirl101

destroy plenty of universes?


Or restructure Reality across the infinite Multiverse.

Originally posted by fangirl101

i know he threw a blast that was SAID could slag dimensions.


"Several BILLION entire UniverseS" ... but who's counting?

Originally posted by fangirl101

as if we know what that means. ambiguous.

mephisto has a dimension.

is it a universe tho? prolly not.


Well, you surely don't know what it means by bringing up the Mephisto's domain.

But I do.

In Marvel, Dimensions are ENTIRE UniverseS:

Pocket Dimensions/Universes, such as Mephisto's, is another story.

Originally posted by fangirl101

The LT has the greater feats.
So I'm gonna go on a hunch and say he's more powerful than MM or beyonder.


Actually, Beyonder has the greatest feat of all time, still holds to this day.

Originally posted by Mr Master
In Marvel, Dimensions are ENTIRE UniverseS:

[B]Pocket Dimensions/Universes, such as Mephisto's, is another story.[/B]


99% of the time Mephisto is referred to as having his own dimension. Where are you getting that it's a sub-dimension?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Or restructure Reality across the [B]infinite Multiverse.

"Several BILLION entire UniverseS" ... but who's counting?

Well, you surely don't know what it means by bringing up the Mephisto's domain.

But I do.

In Marvel, Dimensions are ENTIRE UniverseS:

Pocket Dimensions/Universes, such as Mephisto's, is another story.

Actually, Beyonder has the greatest feat of all time, still holds to this day. [/B]


These pictures surely do back up what you observe. they do not how ever discredit what I percieve. for one, it says a blast that could slag several billion dimensions.

restructuring or fixing damage across the multiverse is a nice feat. Nothing close to what the lt can do. so the point is for what?

as for the beyonder's greatest feat not ever matched. well, he killed multideath and scared a bunch of multiversal entitties at the time. and he created a universes that was some quitillion times bigger than the marvel multiverse. which at the time was like nigh infinite and not inifite. well how could anyone beat that record? LMAO.

Originally posted by fangirl101
no it does not. what would speak volumes to me is a direct confrontation between the beyonder and someone with some actual feats beyond multiversal. that, and only that, would speak volumes to me.
It seems you pick and choose entirely too much. Point is the Beyonder was beyond Lt and all the abstracts. The point of the story was how beyond the beyonder was to anyone...well until Thanos with the heart. 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
It seems you pick and choose entirely too much. Point is the Beyonder was beyond Lt and all the abstracts. The point of the story was how beyond the beyonder was to anyone...well until Thanos with the heart. 😉

That's exactly right though, the whole story was about how MORE powerful
the Beyonder was to anyone and everyone else.

To think otherwise is just ridiculous.

Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER
That's exactly right though, the whole story was about how MORE powerful
the Beyonder was to anyone and everyone else.

To think otherwise is just ridiculous.

fangirl101 is nvrbeenwthagirl

Part 1 Lucifer talks shit

Originally posted by fangirl101
lucifer talks trash to the spectre. he can.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Lucifer created a multiversal out of raw power. He withstood the blast all at once and wasn't even singed. He bitches the spectre and the endless, who are beyond multiversal, and talks shit to God.

There's also a post where he literally says Lucifer talks shit to the Spectre, but I'm not going to take the time to find that one. Props to the person who does.

Part 2 Darkseid and use of "lvl"

Originally posted by fangirl101
are you saying he's never at normal lvls? what is his normal lvl? when he's a giant? in countdown, he was fighting jimmy as a giant against ALL of the other new gods powers. that lvl? he had no apparant power up there.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You did it again. the same DUMB DUMB DUMB bullshit. Eternity doesn't have to kill anyone for me to know that his blast would kill Odin. I dont' need Highfather's staff to kill someone when it's been shown ripping a ****ing hole in the time space reality continuum. What idiot in thier ****ing right mind would need to see the staff kill someone when it can acually rip reality? You'd have to be seriously brain dead to see a combat showing. That would be like someone having to see death kick some ass to believe she can't one shot Thor. Duh, of course she can. As for DS and the ALE aspect, He didn't have any help surviving the blast. No one amped his durability. You are thinking of the fight against the ale itself. And guess what, DS still supplied a 5th of the power required. BUt I think math might not be a good subject for you. And you saying DS powers don't work on superman is really silly considering DS has plentry of times simply teleported superman away. And the fact that superman grows more powerful means that He isn't really the herald lvl character people try to make him out to be. He was herald lvl when byrne retconned him. He's far beyond that now. I can take DS taking one beating from a being who can turn the wheels of mageddon and hold a black hole in his hand and fly out of a double black hole and save the omniverse. you down play DS against superman as if superman is Thor lvl. LMAO. get real. As for DS in his latest showing against superman, is that what you call it? superman comes from out of no where and DS has just been blasted by highfather's staff and just reabsorbed by force his omegas and you count that as a fight? You fail on so many lvls. [/B]
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not even in that book. you fail. Your attempt fails on every lvl.

Part 3 "NO" and then the same choppy, incoherent rambling

Originally posted by fangirl101
NO. The Molecule man has no feats to suggest he's more powerful than the LT. Now isn't this forum about statements only when back up by FEATS? kthanks. you have a good day. Seems we have selective statement/featitis. Statements hold weight when we want them to and other times with no feats to back them up, then they are taken as just hyperbole.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. The LT was never retconned. There simply is another LT depicted in a story that was a Dream. Two LT's. I have come to the conclusion that Since the story is just a dream to the Actual LT, THe LT depicted in the story isn't the same at all. Thus the current LT, cannot be used as a measuring stick to the one in the dream, since it is NOT him.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. I just admitted that if Classic MM where to fight the LT, he'd lose becuz the LT has the power of the Editors and TOAA behind him. Classic MM has nothing but the power he displayed in the series. No backing of anyone.

Part 4 Wonder Woman's skills!!!!

Originally posted by fangirl101
IN A HAND TO HAND FIGHT BETWEEN OLD THOR AND WONDER WOMAN, SHE WOULD WIN. SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE HAS ACTUAL SKILL FEATS AND SHE'S GOT BETTER REFLEXES AND BETTER SPEED.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
In comics, skill mean alot. Captain America Playing with Namor. Gamora Making Thanos Bleed. Batman is well, Batman. Karate Kid ****ing pwning a Superman villian. So I dont' see Why WOnder Woman, a class like 60 million, can't pwn someone who may be Slightly stronger than her. Makes no sense at all. Especially given her magical weapons and superior speed FEATS.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Where are his strength feats and speed feats and durability feats that are just so out of her abilities? I haven't seen them.

Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER
That's exactly right though, the whole story was about how MORE powerful
the Beyonder was to anyone and everyone else.

To think otherwise is just ridiculous.

The beyonder was more powerful than anyone who was what? multiversal at best? Whoop de doop.

Originally posted by Air Legend
fangirl101 is nvrbeenwthagirl

Part 1 Lucifer talks shit

There's also a post where he literally says Lucifer talks shit to the Spectre, but I'm not going to take the time to find that one. Props to the person who does.

Part 2 Darkseid and use of "lvl"

Part 3 "NO" and then the same choppy, incoherent rambling

Part 4 Wonder Woman's skills!!!!

😆 .....Holy ****..... I Think you're right. How long did it take you to put all of that together?

Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER

That's exactly right though, the whole story was about how MORE powerful
the Beyonder was to anyone and everyone else.

To think otherwise is just ridiculous.


👆

Originally posted by King Kandy

99% of the time Mephisto is referred to as having his own dimension.

Where are you getting that it's a sub-dimension?


It's definitely a pocket-reality because it has borders that do not expand.

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On Panel,

we know Mephisto's pocket-universe has set boundaries:

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In Marvel,

that's the definition of a "Pocket-Dimension/Universe" (2007-07) Handbook Glossary:

"Pocket Dimension: Universe whose spatial size is limited."

Originally posted by Marvelknight
😆 .....Holy ****..... I Think you're right. How long did it take you to put all of that together?

Well it was taking pretty long because I started browsing through threads he use to post in, but then I used the search tool hoping it would speed up the process and "wah lah" it worked. With the phrases I copied from fangirl101, I found posts from both fangirl101 and nvrbeenwthagirl on the search results.

There are many more examples and I'd post them if the search engine showed posts from earlier times.

hopefully the thread will stay open

Is LT the same now as when he first met classic beyonder?.. has he had a power up grade or anything?.....or is it assumed he stays the same ....
cheers

Originally posted by fangirl101
That doesn't cut it. He didn't fight anyone. And he certainly didn't wield the power that The LT does. Not even close.

The text above the characters are told by the author, which only states (what should be obvious) facts.
When you read a novel and it says "Hans and Grete were in the woods." Then they are in the woods. It comes directly from the story tellers mouth.

Originally posted by lannfear
Is LT the same now as when he first met classic beyonder?.. has he had a power up grade or anything?.....or is it assumed he stays the same ....
cheers

The Living Tribunal has not had an upgrade or retcon. Only Beyonder And Owen were affected.

Spectre/Beyonder win.

Originally posted by Astner
The text above the characters are told by the author, which only states (what should be obvious) facts.
When you read a novel and it says "Hans and Grete were in the woods." Then they are in the woods. It comes directly from the story tellers mouth.

The Living Tribunal has not had an upgrade or retcon. Only Beyonder And Owen were affected.

wait, so you mean to tell me, that the lt who was only multiversal at the time, who is now greater than the whole marvel omniverse wasn't affected? that makes noooooooooo sense.

Originally posted by fangirl101
wait, so you mean to tell me, that the lt who was only multiversal at the time, who is now greater than the whole marvel omniverse wasn't affected? that makes noooooooooo sense.

Infinite universes, Marvel then is as big as DC now.