Classic Beyonder/Specter vs. Living Tribunal/Thanos w/IG

Started by llagrok8 pages

It happened.

Now we have post retcon Beyonder.

you are so smart llagrok 😄

beyonder/spectre wins

Originally posted by fangirl101

The cross over is cannon

and no where in that book did it say they existed in the same multiverse.

In JLA/Avengers itself, (first page of every issue)
it clearly places Marvel and DC withIN the SAME Multiverse:

"Krona ... wanders the Multiverse"

(interesting when we know he passed by Polemachus (Marvel reality) and Qward (DC reality)

"In One Universe he encounters the Grandmaster"

(So One of the Universes of this Multiverse Krona wanders is Marvel's)

"Grandmaster & Metron manipulate champions of Two Worlds ..
Avengers, from his own reality, and the JLA from Krona's reality
"

(so Grandmaster's and Krona's reality are from the SAME Multiverse) 😂

.........................................................................................................

Here, it's even more blatant! (Marvel and DC share the SAME Multiverse) LOL!

"He wanders the Multiverse,
destroying Realities
" (Two actually) and BOTH were from Marvel & DC,

so BOTH must be from the SAME Multiverse according to this.

.........................................................................................................

And it was just TWO Realities!

"Grandmaster to deal with this intruder,
who has already destroyed at-least Two Universes
,
and is determined to destroy a Third
"

+++++++++ (Two realities - One from Marvel and One from DC) +++++++++

Polemachus: (a Marvel Universe withIN the Marvel Multiverse)

And Qward (DC) which is to Marvel:

============================================

"Another Universe, occupying the same Space,
but a different vibratory plane of reality"

😆 ... This is 100% bull shit

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Qward: (a DC Universe withIN the DC Multiverse)

THIS, is WHY I tell you to READ Comics, then debate.

Originally posted by fangirl101

The cross over even says that they DON"T.
As it showed Two seperate multiversal entities being bound.


Gibberish.
Originally posted by fangirl101

As for your comment about my gibberish, well that is rude.
And you wonder why I don't respond to you.
I was afterall responding to someone else. In my opinion


If you post gibberish concerning Marvel facts,
you'll be called on it, it's that simple.
Originally posted by fangirl101

The LT is emotionless and has never shown any other time to act like he did in the secret wars. So IN MY OPNION, the series was CRAP. And The LT is above omniversal in power.


Gibberish.
Originally posted by fangirl101

Now you tell me this,
if the beyonder invaded the marvel wrealm, a
nd the LT's boss says, beat the crap out of the bedyoner, what would happen?


LT loses.

LT is the LT, Beyonder was far more powerful than the LT.

No need to imaginary fantastical scenarios.

Funny, it says, that cast out of his home reality. So what multiverse was he roaming? It says right there he was cast out of his home REALITY. That would be DC. The Qward Universe isn't part of the DC multiverse. It's all together different. So he could roam that and NOT be in the DC multiverse. The Marvel Multiverse as we already know is not his. Now, Your insults aside about reading comics, maybe you should read comics before insulting. You obviously didn't know that info did you?

I noticed you did it again. you cannot address the fact that kismet and eternity are both shown on panel, TWO SEPERATE multiverses, so you just insult me and say jibberish. And you say the beyonder was far more powerful than the LT? As far as I can tell, the beyonder didn't create the marvel multiverse which now is the back bone of the marvel omniverse. now logic would dictate that the beyonder's crib would be the old real estate that the rest of the marvel omniverse now is. Cept the beyonder never owned that little bity piece that happens to be the most important and poweful part of the marvel omniverse. The LT rules over all of this space that was the beyonder's crib AND the marvel multiverse. Who made this omniverse? Who presides over it? and if they said, LT, you must defend my home against the beyonder, then that would mean the LT would win correct? Obviously the LT from 1984 was a dufus. He was actually shaking in fear. A concept? shakes in fear? OMG> what terrible writing.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Another Universe, [B]occupying the same Space,
but a different vibratory plane" [/B]
This is how both the Marvel and DC multiverses are layed out. Canonically.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Funny, it says, that cast out of his home reality. So what multiverse was he roaming? It says right there he was cast out of his home REALITY. That would be DC. The Qward Universe isn't part of the DC multiverse. It's all together different. So he could roam that and NOT be in the DC multiverse. The Marvel Multiverse as we already know is not his. Now, Your insults aside about reading comics, maybe you should read comics before insulting. You obviously didn't know that info did you?


Dude, you're a waste of time,
I've entertained myself fro a while,
just as an excuse to post facts and material,
but your intransigence is buried so deep, that's it's overbearing.

Seriously, debating with you is pointless, always has been since your Nvr days.

Originally posted by fangirl101

I noticed you did it again.
you cannot address the fact that kismet and eternity
are both shown on panel, TWO SEPERATE multiverses,
so you just insult me and say jibberish.


Gibberish.

I challenge you to prove on panel where any statement of any kind concerns Two Multiverses.

Originally posted by fangirl101

And you say the beyonder was far more powerful than the LT? As far as I can tell, the beyonder didn't create the marvel multiverse which now is the back bone of the marvel omniverse. now logic would dictate that the beyonder's crib would be the old real estate that the rest of the marvel omniverse now is. Cept the beyonder never owned that little bity piece that happens to be the most important and poweful part of the marvel omniverse. The LT rules over all of this space that was the beyonder's crib AND the marvel multiverse. Who made this omniverse? Who presides over it? and if they said, LT, you must defend my home against the beyonder, then that would mean the LT would win correct? Obviously the LT from 1984 was a dufus. He was actually shaking in fear. A concept? shakes in fear? OMG> what terrible writing.


Gibberish.

Originally posted by Galan007

This is how both the Marvel and DC multiverses are layed out. Canonically.

So you agree that DC and Marvel share the same Multiverse?

Cause that's what the arc claims.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Dude, you're a waste of time,
I've entertained myself fro a while,
just as an excuse to post facts and material,
but your intransigence is buried so deep, that's it's overbearing.

Seriously, debating with you is pointless, always has been since your Nvr days.

Gibberish.

I challenge you to prove on panel where any statement of any kind concerns Two Multiverses.

Gibberish.

First and foremost, I'm no one's dude. Secondly, you are more than welcome to chat with me on yim. do you have a camera? we can cam. Then you'll issue a public apology. I'm certainly not this nvr. And I'm not a dude. Thirdly, the only thing over bearing to you is my unwillingness to roll over to your over bearing OPINION. So you say that what I say is gibberish. I haven't said that one time about what you say. Even tho, it is to me. In fact it's beyond Gibberish. Oh yes, there is a statement in the book that concerns two multiverses. Look, there is Eternity, and His League counterpartl. Kismet is the gaurdian of ALL dc realities. Eternity is the ombidiment of the Marvel Multiverse and Spine of the Omniverse. So there you go. have a good weekend mm.

Originally posted by Mr Master
So you agree that DC and Marvel share the same Multiverse?
Only when it's convienent for both companies, lol.

I'ze just saying that in both companies [which are separate], the universes occupy the same space, but are on a different vibrational plane. I used to think it was only DC which was layed out as such - but marvel is as well.

Originally posted by fangirl101

First and foremost, I'm no one's dude. Secondly, you are more than welcome to chat with me on yim. do you have a camera? we can cam. Then you'll issue a public apology. I'm certainly not this nvr. And I'm not a dude.


Whatever you say.
Originally posted by fangirl101

Thirdly, the only thing over bearing to you is my unwillingness to roll over to your over bearing OPINION. So you say that what I say is gibberish. I haven't said that one time about what you say. Even tho, it is to me. In fact it's beyond Gibberish.


Gibberish.
Originally posted by fangirl101

Oh yes, there is a statement in the book that concerns two multiverses. Look, there is Eternity, and His League counterpartl. Kismet is the gaurdian of ALL dc realities. Eternity is the ombidiment of the Marvel Multiverse and Spine of the Omniverse. So there you go. have a good weekend mm.


Gibberish.

Alternate single reality Eternity
looks exactly the same as the Multiversal representation of Eternity.

So I don't care who Kismet is over at DC.

The fact is, that this story takes place withIN one Multiverse.

PROVEN with the JLA/Avengers arc itself.

You wanna ignore that fact, do what you do Nvr.

Round and round you go. firefirefireph

Originally posted by Galan007

Only when it's convienent for both companies, lol.


I agree.

I've said it before,
that only withIN a cross-over,
does a cross-over have meaning.

It shouldn't be used in forums as a true character's showings,
as we know that whole cross-over is twisted as it tries to fulfill fan appeasement across the board.

This is why they've been disasters. (to many fans to stroke)

Originally posted by Galan007

I'ze just saying that in both companies [which are separate], the universes occupy the same space, but are on a different vibrational plane. I used to think it was only DC which was layed out as such - but marvel is as well.


Cool.

But the fact that JLA/Avengers places both companies under the same Multiverse,
imo, should immediately dismiss it's relevancy to debates.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I agree.

I've said it before,
that only withIN a cross-over,
does a cross-over have meaning.

It shouldn't be used in forums as a true character's showings,
as we know that whole cross-over is twisted as it tries to fulfill fan appeasement across the board.

This is why they've been disasters. (to many fans to stroke)

Cool.

But the fact that JLA/Avengers places both companies under the same Multiverse,
imo, should immediately dismiss it's relevancy to debates.

And I agree.

The only reason I brought it up was because I recently came upon this scan, which sheds light on how the prime marvel multiverse is layed out:

DC's multiverse is layed out the exact same way, more or less. Just thought it was interesting. *shrugs*

Originally posted by Galan007
And I agree.

The only reason I brought it up was because I recently came upon this scan, which sheds light on how the prime marvel multiverse is layed out:

DC's multiverse is layed out the exact same way, more or less. Just thought it was interesting. *shrugs*


👆 ... right on brother G, personally, I've always known that,
but my contention as you know was concerning Marvel and DC sharing the same space,
which as I discovered recently, this same space is the Multiverse. 🤨

Had I noticed those pages above from the arc,
that clearly places both companies withIN the same Multiverse
I would've closed that comedic notion,
"Do the Marvel and DC Multiverses share the same creation" thread,
even faster than I, with your help and others, did.

Because we did, and we did it without this definitive proof.

So, I'll give us a clap3 for our efforts to keep the forum devoid of horse manure.

Originally posted by Mr Master
👆 ... right on brother G, personally, I've always known that,
but my contention as you know was concerning Marvel and DC sharing the same space,
which as I discovered recently, this same space is the Multiverse. 🤨

Had I noticed those pages above from the arc,
that clearly places both companies [B]withIN the same Multiverse

I would've closed that comedic notion,
"Do the Marvel and DC Multiverses share the same creation" thread,
even faster than I, with your help and others, did.

Because we did, and we did it without this definitive proof.

So, I'll give us a clap3 for our efforts to keep the forum devoid of horse manure. [/B]

w00t

Originally posted by Mr Master
Whatever you say.

Gibberish.

Gibberish.

Alternate single reality Eternity
looks exactly the same as the Multiversal representation of Eternity.

So I don't care who Kismet is over at DC.

The fact is, that this story takes place withIN one Multiverse.

PROVEN with the JLA/Avengers arc itself.

You wanna ignore that fact, do what you do Nvr.

Round and round you go. firefirefireph

Basically, you don't like certain facts, so you ignore them or put them down. You don't care who kismet is over at DC. Well, The writers care, becuz not only do they show her as the opposite of Eternity, Scarlet Witch backs it up with her statement. So round and round we go becuz you don't like the story.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Basically, you don't like certain facts, so you ignore them or put them down. You don't care who kismet is over at DC. Well, The writers care, becuz not only do they show her as the opposite of Eternity, Scarlet Witch backs it up with her statement. So round and round we go becuz you don't like the story.
Ok,then we also know that Thor can defeat Doomsday and so on and so forth.

This crossover shouldnt be the basis for any argument. 😬

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok,then we also know that Thor can defeat Doomsday and so on and so forth.

This crossover shouldnt be the basis for any argument. 😬

Thor can beat Doomsday. We don't know which doomsday it was as time was really ****ed up. The fact is, that when the realities merged, things were changed. we don't know the power lvls of the villians. It's even talked about it.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thor can beat Doomsday. We don't know which doomsday it was as time was really ****ed up. The fact is, that when the realities merged, things were changed. we don't know the power lvls of the villians. It's even talked about it.
The crossover was fun and all but shouldnt be the focal point of any argument is my point.

Originally posted by Galan007
w00t

😄

Originally posted by quanchi112

This crossover shouldnt be the basis for any argument. 😬


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