Originally posted by quanchi112👆
The freakin official Handbook confirmed what Uaut said,
and yet still ... jeesh .... I mean jebesus!
It's like some crazy kaka.
Originally posted by kipLet's look at the LT.
Where does he get his power from?
How does it work?
During Beyonder's reign,
Beyonder was the representative avatar of the writer/editor in-chief Jim Shooter,
in fact, Beyonder, according to Shooter himself, was really above even his avatar,
senseless as that is, that's how far the exaggeration of his power became.
Again, that's why the forced retcon came into play.
So what does this lead to?
TOAA/god is the Supreme being now.
According to Jim Shooter the WRITER/EDITOR in-Chief of all Marvel,
Beyonder was a GOD unto himself, in his own Reality,
and the entire infinite Marvel reality was like a drop of water to his ocean of a reality.
When Beyonder was around, he was the "Supreme being"
that came from another universe where he was also the Supreme being,
yes, he came to the Marvel Universe, took over, and became Reality. (Supreme being)
Beyonder withIN the Marvel Reality:
"The Mightiest beings are microbes to me"
"Reality isn't real to me! Eveything is what I say it is"
"My imagination and reality are virtually indistinguishable"
"All Existence, except for me, might as well be a figment of my imagination"
"I who utterly dictate All Reality"
"As long as I conceive of things, they exist, in a fashion,
because my thoughts equal Reality"
Originally posted by MarvelknightLT can increase the powers of the IG,
making Thanos even more of a factor in this fight.
LT can only make it in-effective, or effective.
The IG has it's own reserves to draw on,
and it has nothing to do with the LT.
Still, even the LT could make Thanos his equal,
they'd still get curbstomped by Beyonder alone.
Not even a million LT's are enough. 🙂
Originally posted by lannfearIf the LT is a servant of TOAA (God i guess)?...
was this relationship in existance when we had classic beyonder?.....
because the way i see it ...
TOAA would give him what ever power is required to accomplish any feat,
if it worked in TOAA's grand scheme...
unless of course classic beyonder is more powerful than TOAA....
Only TOAA was unheard of, because TOAA was basically Jim Shooter,
same guy who created the Beyonder/Secret Wars,
and was Editor in-Chief of Marvel at the time,
besides ALSO being the Writer of secret wars I-II.
And Jim Shooter placed himself BENEATH the Beyonder's power,
believe it or not, but read it for your self:
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The Beyonder between 1984 and 1986,
was everything outside the Marvel Multiverse, (Infinite Beyond)
was GOD before Genesis, (a Supreme Being)
and in comparison with the entire Marvel Reality the Beyond Realm was like an Ocean,
while the entire Marvel Reality was like a drop of water.
Writer's own words! ^^^ ✅
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Jim Shooter - creator/writer of Secret Wars/Beyonder
(while he was Editor in chief of Marvel)
Get's interviewed ... about the Beyonder.
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Marvel Age is an official Marvel title, created to strictly discuss Marvel stories,
and other intricacies concerning Marvel comics.
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Jim Shooter himself describes Classic Beyonder to us:
Jim states:
1. Beyonder "is a Multi-verse."
2. Beyonder "was like God before there was Genesis."
3. Beyonder's discovery of our Universe ... (Marvel Multiverse)
.... was like when inventor Leeuwenhoek, looked through his micro-scope ...
.... and discovered little paramecia swimming in a drop of water ... "
"We introduced the Beyonder
and established
that he was studying these beings - us - he had discovered"
swank
This is why Beyonder had to be retconned, (de-powered)
simply too much grander and power.
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MILLIONS of times more powerful than the Living Tribunal,
and the rest of Marvel combined:
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This is why!
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The LT was afraid of the Beyonder, Desperate in FACT:
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When Uatu gathered the Cosmic Hierarchy (the LT included)
the In-Betweener says about Mephisto,
"Surely this is his day of last resorts ... he is desperate ... AS ARE WE"
I believe "WE" included the LT ✅ (who is there)
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After Beyonder erased Death from the Multiverse,
the Hierarchy (including the LT) accepts their fate,
then the MM shows up and they all step aside: (as if salvation arrived)
LOL!
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Who's the ONLY being to ever make the LT tremble in fear?
Beyonder, that's who.
The Living Tribunal and the hierarchy literally,
were quaking in their pants at the thought of what Beyonder would do,
if Eternity failed,
when Eternity actually mustered some courage to attempt an attack:
"The Mighty of the MULTIVERSE (the LT included) TREMBLE"
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Beyonder's top feat
Creating from nothingness ... the Beyond Realm
(a Reality quintillions of times more infinite, than the infinite prime Multiverse)
"A Universe to which OUR OWN is as a droplet of Water to the Ocean"
=== note ===
There are roughly around 20-25 Quintillion drops of Water in the Ocean,
according to the Mathematical Biosciences Intitute in 2005
and the Scripps Institution of Oceanography.
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"OUR OWN" Universe ... is the infinite prime Multiverse:
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"Odd thing He had noticed about our Universe"
"Namely that it is Many-Layered
composed of a seemingly Endless Number of Dimensions,
indeed, it is a MULTIVERSE"
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And now .. On Panel!
Beyonder's top feat
Creating from nothingness ... the Beyond Realm
(a Reality quintillions of times more infinite, than the infinite prime Multiverse)
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Beyonder CREATING/BECOMING the INFINITE Beyond:
"Masses form in the Void, Stars, Suns, and Planets ... LIFE Arises"
"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND"
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"Evolves and Flourishes Within the New Universe,
BEGAT (brought into existence) by Beyonder's Power"
"Mortal Beings giving meaning to the INFINITY in which they dwell"
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swank
Btw. This infinity is actually an uberdiculous Multiverse:
"Beyonder, the entity that embodied all the substance of Another Multiverse"
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Just like Writer/Editor in-Chief, Jim Shooter stated in his interview. 🙂
Originally posted by King Kandy
He used it many times... yeah, I think i've pretty much proved that you're a sock... i'm awaiting your ban...
But see, here's is the fun part. Your using your valuable time trying to prove something that isn't correct. It's like your trying to prove that the sky is blue. On the surface it does indeed look blue. But the truth of the matter is, there are many colors that make the sky appear to be blue. I"m not who you think I am. As I have invited you to look at my myspace page, or chat with me on my yim camera to camera. If you take me up on the offer, a nice apology will be in order. I've never recieved such treatment on the net before. Some of you are worse those hating girls on myspace and face book.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well here's the really funny part: All the evidence supports me.
No. If I were a sock, then they would be able to trace an IP address. It amazes me that in a forum meant on debate, that you would spend so much time NOT debating. As I said, you are more than welcome to check me out. And do please, notice the dates on my freinds comments. Trust me, I'm not who you think I am.
Originally posted by King KandyCome on kandy be fair.
First impressions: Guess who else is from Chicago? And not a single picture of you.
Just because she favors the same characters,debates in the same manner,has the same vocabulary,talks about how cool nver's sig is and questions why he was banned,gets into it with the same posters,calls people marvel biased when they dont agree with her, why cant you just take her word for it. Just a million coincidences.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Come on kandy be fair.Just because she favors the same characters,debates in the same manner,has the same vocabulary,talks about how cool nver's sig is and questions why he was banned,gets into it with the same posters,calls people marvel biased when they dont agree with her, why cant you just take her word for it. Just a million coincidences.
Guys, you all need to give it a rest. People don't get banned for coincidences....no matter how many. If I have proof that a person is a sock then I ban them on the spot. fangirl101 really hasn't done much wrong or caused major problems from what I see. The biggest problem I've noticed is people spamming up threads with accusations and worse.
