Wolverine vs Spiderman fist fight

Originally posted by Battlehammer
hahaha your basing your wolverine knowledge of youtube hahahah.

pleases prove that spiderman is faster then wolverine and has faster reflexes, let a lone by the margin you are saying.

LOl Logan will never touch spiderman you say? really th.........ats not what the picture below is showing

Clearly, you pick specific points to rebut, while ignoring the rest of what I say.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
hahaha your basing your wolverine knowledge of youtube hahahah.

I'm not saying Wolverine = Flash T btw, its more abt showing Spiderman's speed.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

...let a lone by the margin you are saying.

All rough estimates, and by how much (SM>W) or (W>SM) in each category is in my opinion of course

Originally posted by Battlehammer

pleases prove that spiderman is faster then wolverine

No, the onus is on you, since you are the one with the delusion that not only does Wolverine have superhuman speed but that which rival Spiderman's.

Show me some speed and reflex feats of Wolverine then come back and I'll show you Spidey's.

Originally posted by h1a8
Logan has never caught a bullet in canon.
And if bullets and laser can't hit spidey at his best then what makes you think Logan's fists can?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Depeneds were spidy gets hit, but yea most likly they won't but they will hurt a lot.

No actaully he got turn into a skeleton. fought namor elite guard. fought namor, then fought his guard again, and then namor again and then was KO from a cheap shot from behind. It was far from a simply hit or two which KO him.

just to night my bad. I been uses to replying to the marrons in the capt vs spidy thread. It not the fact they believe spidy wins, it the fact there points and way of debating is retarded.

I assume his body was in pretty good shape by the time Namor was fighting him.

And as far as the fighting between the Guard and Namor fighting him, he was hit about 5 times total, and only 3 times in the head, and I already said Namor hit him from behind. I'd also like to add that this hits were spaced apart, not consecutive.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
more than one greater than sign is a rough estimate all right.

but you are "forgetting" the superior fighting prowess of wolverine and his regen ability that will take care of anything spider-man can dish out.

No, I didnt forget, hence I've listed Wolverine's Durability (due to Healing Factor and Indestructible Endoskeleton) as far superior to Spiderman's.

As for "fighting prowness", I would probably agree Wolverine may be better, but not by that much imo.

Well well, Battlehammer. I'll bet you were itching to make this thread (not that it's a bad idea). I'll give it to Spidey 5.5/10.

Originally posted by Placidity
Clearly, you pick specific points to rebut, while ignoring the rest of what I say.

No, the onus is on you, since you are the one with the delusion that not only does Wolverine have superhuman speed but that which rival Spiderman's.

Show me some speed and reflex feats of Wolverine then come back and I'll show you Spidey's.

no the burden of prove is on you. Im not saying wolverines faster I am saying he as fast.

Unless you provide evidences of spiderman being faster then he not.

Originally posted by Mindset
I assume his body was in pretty good shape by the time Namor was fighting him.

also Logan healing factor is not unlimited the more damage done to it the slower it heals. That was a shit load of damage he ahd taken prior to fighting namor.

Originally posted by Mindset
And as far as the fighting between the Guard and Namor fighting him, he was hit about 5 times total, and only 3 times in the head, and I already said Namor hit him from behind.

more like 6 times, and all from superhuman threats and this is all right after healing from a skeleton.

Originally posted by Placidity

As for "fighting prowness", I would probably agree Wolverine may be better, but not by that much imo.

................wolverine is a top tier fighter..................spiderman not even a fourth tier...........are you kidding me...........have you ever even read a wolverine comic.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
no the burden of prove is on you. Im not saying wolverines faster I am saying he as fast.

Unless you provide evidences of spiderman being faster then he not.

No, the onus is on you, since you are the one with the delusion that not only does Wolverine have superhuman speed but that which rival Spiderman's.

Meaning, you are claiming Wolverine has Superhuman Speed/Reflexes for one thing. Lets just start with that.

Can you prove that?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Well well, Battlehammer. I'll bet you were itching to make this thread (not that it's a bad idea). I'll give it to Spidey 5.5/10.

I mean he failed repeatedly to KO Logan. he now back at classic levels of strength which means he ahs an even worses shot of KOing Logan. and he fighting some one who vastly more skilled and who has comparable combat speed and reflex speed.

Originally posted by Placidity
Meaning, you are claiming Wolverine has Superhuman Speed/Reflexes for one thing. Lets just start with that.

Can you prove that?

Here Wolverine moving faster then special opt train soldiers who are trained to take out a Super Human who had super human physical abilities failed to see him move.
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev106817ff1fh1.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev106818yp8id6.jpg

Here Wolverine dodging energy blasts from a meta human showing his speed.
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=energydodge3vl4fp2.jpg

Logan reacting and keeping up with speed demon
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strategydz6wt5.jpg

battle hammer, post the pic of logan cutting storm's cape off when she was displaying her flight speed in the danger room. he ninja sliced a corner of her cape off with out moving anything but his arm.

wolverine is fast when combat is concerned, sure spider-man is faster in some areas but in a scrap, logan comes out on top imo

Originally posted by Battlehammer
........He had jsut healed seconds before namors elite guard arrived.........

also Logan healing factor is not unlimited the more damage done to it the slower it heals. That was a shit load of damage he ahd taken prior to fighting namor.

more like 6 times, and all from superhuman threats and this is all right after healing from a skeleton.

Umm, no, it wasn't seconds.

Wolverine started fighting Nitro for 2 pages in Wolverine #43, then there were 8 pages of them still fighting before the Atlantean even showed up.

And you were right about Logan's hf, when it wasn't amped to ridiculous levels, that is. Nothing suggests his hf slows after down damage during the time that Logan's healing factor was boosted.

I'll show exactly all the hits Logan took. And lol, I said 5 you say 6, is that really a huge difference? 2 are tackles anyway, only hit 3 times in the head.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine44-011.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine44-012.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine44-015.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine45-004.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine45-005.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine45-008.jpg

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It was also stated in the weapon x novel that Logan views bullets in slow motion

Here Wolverine moving faster then special opt train soldiers who are trained to take out a Super Human who had super human physical abilities failed to see him move.
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev106817ff1fh1.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev106818yp8id6.jpg

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Here Wolverine dodging energy blasts from a meta human showing his speed.
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=energydodge3vl4fp2.jpg

Respect. I dont think Wolverine has ever been seen to be this fast anywhere else though. This is like a speedster speed, which Logan is not.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Logan reacting and keeping up with speed demon
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strategydz6wt5.jpg

So you showed that Wolverine is probably faster than peak human, but on par with Spiderman? Still a long way to go.

Originally posted by Mindset
Umm, no, it wasn't seconds.

Wolverine started fighting Nitro for 2 pages in Wolverine #43, then there were 8 pages of them still fighting before the Atlantean even showed up.

And you were right about Logan's hf, when it wasn't amped to ridiculous levels, that is. Nothing suggests his hf slows after down damage during the time that Logan's healing factor was boosted.

I'll show exactly all the hits Logan took. And lol, I said 5 you say 6, is that really a huge difference? 2 are tackles anyway, only hit 3 times in the head.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine44-011.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine44-012.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine44-015.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine45-004.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine45-005.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Wolverine45-008.jpg

even when Logan healing factor was at rediculous levels the more damage he takes the slower it becomes. He took a crazy amount of damage the day and was still able to withstand a bunch of shots from superstrong characters and was not even KO untill he was cheap shotted. None of which spiderman has a pray in hell of reproducing, so this arguements rather irrelevent lol.

Originally posted by Placidity
He was still fighting only humans even if they are spec opts. I'll admit that speed depicted in here appears to be beyond peak human.

Respect. I dont think Wolverine has ever been seen to be this fast anywhere else though. This is like a speedster speed, which Logan is not.

Well, this one really doesnt carry any weight imo. He kinda got lucky there, aswell as the fact that his opponent was running in a straight line.

So you showed that Wolverine is probably faster than peak human, but on par with Spiderman? Still a long way to go.

I don't think his speed is beyond peak human, I see Cap doing all those feats.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
even when Logan healing factor was at rediculous levels the more damage he takes the slower it becomes. He took a crazy amount of damage the day and was still able to withstand a bunch of shots from superstrong characters and was not even KO untill he was cheap shotted. None of which spiderman has a pray in hell of reproducing, so this arguements rather irrelevent lol.

No, it was relevant, again you didn't read the post I was quoting. Psycho was again wrongly implying something, this time he was making it seem like only Hulk level strength could ko him.

Really, where does it show his hf slowing down, because he got his face cut and it healed almost instantly.

Not sure how strong the Guard actually was, from what I saw no where near Namor level. And if a bunch of shots is 3, then yea, he took a bunch. And like I said a couple times, I already said he was hit from behind.

Anyway the point I'm making is you don't have to be WWH level to ko Wolverine, or even Hulk level, I'm sure there are times he has been knocked out by weaker than Namor as well.

Originally posted by Placidity
He was still fighting only humans even if they are spec opts. I'll admit that speed depicted in here appears to be beyond peak human.

Originally posted by Placidity
Respect. I dont think Wolverine has ever been seen to be this fast anywhere else though. This is like a speedster speed, which Logan is not.

Originally posted by Placidity
Well, this one really doesnt carry any weight imo. He kinda got lucky there, aswell as the fact that his opponent was running in a straight line.

Originally posted by Placidity
So you showed that Wolverine is probably faster than peak human, but on par with Spiderman? Still a long way to go.

pleases. Lets see a feat of spidermans speed that Logan can't match.

Originally posted by Placidity
He was still fighting only humans even if they are spec opts. I'll admit that speed depicted in here appears to be beyond peak human.

Respect. I dont think Wolverine has ever been seen to be this fast anywhere else though. This is like a speedster speed, which Logan is not.

Well, this one really doesnt carry any weight imo. He kinda got lucky there, aswell as the fact that his opponent was running in a straight line.

So you showed that Wolverine is probably faster than peak human, but on par with Spiderman? Still a long way to go.

Wow, show me something spiderman did better then the 3 that battlehammer posted. I dont think that you have anything to rival that.

That feat of speed demon is a good feat even though he was going in a straight line. Wolverine was still able to keep up with a speedster.

Lol, Wolverine rails Spidey's ass so hard in this thread it's not even funny.

Spiderman's strength advantage doesn't even mean anything here and that's the only advantage he's got really.

And please, Wolverine being KOed in Civil War by Namor means little to nothing.
Not only was it after taking multiple shots from Namor, and Janus another brick, and not only was it from a behind the back cheap shot, and NOT ONLY was it after Logan had to heal from a friggin skeleton which would have taxed his healing factor out anyways, but it was during the whole stint that Wolverine was missing half of his soul and inherently weaker as a result as flat out stated by Lazaer.