Wolverine vs Spiderman fist fight

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think that those are good speed feats, the 1st one he basically stuck his arm out on a guy that was circling around him. Thats not a speed feat that a great strength feat on his arm because his arm didnt rip off.

the second feat is a agility feat

third, agility feat

fourth, agility feat.

Oh, well you either are not good at interpreting, or you're blind.

He could react to SD. So when Wolverine through his experience figures out where SD will be next, and SD is running in a straight line that is a great speed feat, but when Spiderman does essentially the same thing it's not, ok.

Yes, he speedblitz multiple thugs, he dodges lasers and energy blasts, but those are only agility feats, but if Wolverine does it it's a speed feat, gotcha.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
it a combination of healing from a skeleton and fighting a man with vast superhuman strength.

the fact he tired at all is an indicator that his healing factor does not run off an unlimited supply

Ah I guess you may be right, although what does his hf run off of. Because as soon as he woke up he went to Atlantis, I assume he didn't stop at Burger King.

Originally posted by Mindset
Oh, well you either are not good at interpreting, or you're blind.

He could react to SD. So when Wolverine through his experience figures out where SD will be next, and SD is running in a straight line that is a great speed feat, but when Spiderman does essentially the same thing it's not, ok.

for one Wolverine keeping up with speed demons movements while he running.

spiderman was gettign pritty much speed blizt and was able to tagg him after having speed demon run around him a shit load of times.

there no way you can honestly tell me that the spiderman speed demon feat is as impressive as the wolverine one.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, he speedblitz multiple thugs, he dodges lasers and energy blasts, but those are only agility feats, but if Wolverine does it it's a speed feat, gotcha.

thug one is impressive, but it not as impressive as completely vanishing from site of highly trained military special opt who are trained to take out a meta human with superhuman reflexes.

the laser ones are good. The third one pritty much is the Logan feat were he running around dodging blasts.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes almost or equal to and im nit sure they do.

And why is that?

Originally posted by Mindset
Oh, well you either are not good at interpreting, or you're blind.

He could react to SD. So when Wolverine through his experience figures out where SD will be next, and SD is running in a straight line that is a great speed feat, but when Spiderman does essentially the same thing it's not, ok.

Yes, he speedblitz multiple thugs, he dodges lasers and energy blasts, but those are only agility feats, but if Wolverine does it it's a speed feat, gotcha.

I guess you dont see the difference with the speed feat that wolverine did against speed demon then what spiderman did.

Wolverine kept up with a speeding speed demon that was running off, spiderman stuck his arm out at a person that was running in a circle. Do you see the difference.

The feat of spiderman jumping over lazers, its pretty good but it still dont match anything that battle hammer posted.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, and this was all said before his hf was boosted, or after when it was downgraded.

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This has been a consistency his entire career. His HF doesn't run off unlimited energy. 😬

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Umm there completely different.

for one Wolverine keeping up with speed demons movements while he running.

spiderman was gettign pritty much speed blizt and was able to tagg him after having speed demon run around him a shit load of times.

there no way you can honestly tell me that the spiderman speed demon feat is as impressive as the wolverine one.

thug onr kinda is agility feat. Logan not jumping around doing flips.

thug one is impressive, but it not as impressive as completely vanishing from site of highly trained military special opt who are trained to take out a meta human with superhuman reflexes.

the laser ones are good. The third one pritty much is the Logan feat were he running around dodging blasts.

Logan isn't keeping up with SD, he is trying to hit him and he's missing every time, which is why he says he needs to figure out where he will be next.

Just because Spiderman is flipping around doesn't take away the fact he has to have the speed to hit these guys before they can hit him. He takes down about 10 ppl and only around 3 shots are fired.

Originally posted by carver9
I guess you dont see the difference with the speed feat that wolverine did against speed demon then what spiderman did.

Wolverine kept up with a speeding speed demon that was running off, spiderman stuck his arm out at a person that was running in a circle. Do you see the difference.

The feat of spiderman jumping over lazers, its pretty good but it still dont match anything that battle hammer posted.

Wolverine kept up with SD by missing him every time when SD was running in a straight line, ok.

When Wolverine hit him he was coming in to attack again, Wolverine figured out where he'd be before SD got there, that is how he was able to hit him.

He was dodging lasers, same as Wolverine was dodging them, only difference is Wolverine was running around while Spiderman was jumping around.

Originally posted by jinzin
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This has been a consistency his entire career. His HF doesn't run off unlimited energy. 😬

So what does it run off of?

He went from being a skeleton, to fighting an Atlantean, to fighting Namor, then to going to Antlantis and fighting Namor again.

Originally posted by Mindset
So what does it run off of?

He went from being a skeleton, to fighting an Atlantean, to fighting Namor, then to going to Antlantis and fighting Namor again.

Don't know what it runs off of besides his mutation.
We do know that the rate of his HF and it's strength are contingent on how much energy he has, we have scans stating that food, sleep, and hydration have a direct relationship with his healing factor, and we know that it can be taxed out as Wolverine's stated as much dozens of times as well as proven it when the reavers tortured him and left him crucified which was something his HF didn't recover from for years after the fact.

Wolverine's body's in a constant state of pain and healing and we can assume that as long as there's a "center mass" Wolverine's mutation should work to recover him to a full body. But that doesn't mean it will recover him to 100% or that it will be as strong/fast as it would have been before the damage.

When I do post the respect thread, the whole first section goes into Wolverine theory for brick punches and KO's perhaps you should take a gander when it's up.

Originally posted by Mindset

Just because Spiderman is flipping around doesn't take away the fact he has to have the speed to hit these guys before they can hit him. He takes down about 10 ppl and only around 3 shots are fired.

And? It still not on the level of wolverine feat.

spiderman did it vs common thugs.

Logan did it vs special opt memeber trained to take out a meta human who had superhuman reflexes.

spiderman guys saw him and some were able to even firer.

Logan guys were complete speed blizt to the point were he fanished and ended up behind them and they did not see him.

^ Of course his HF doesnt run on a unlimited supply of energy, neither should his healing factor be able to regenerate substantial amount of body tissue without first having a meal (a large one). If you want to go into scientific detail, then alot of things arent possible.

Now I'm not saying this automatically means Wolverine's HF has unlimited energy, I'm just saying you can't rule it out based on "science".

What I don't understand is why we assume his healing factor operated the same when during this time he was immortal.

I know his healing factor could be taxed before this came, and after it was gone, I just don't know why it would be the same when during this period he could heal from any amount of damage.

Originally posted by Mindset
What I don't understand is why we assume his healing factor operated the same when during this time he was immortal.

I know his healing factor could be taxed before this came, and after it was gone, I just don't know why it would be the same when during this period he could heal from any amount of damage.

I'm not sure I'm following completely.. the same with what?

Originally posted by Placidity
^ Of course his HF doesnt run on a unlimited supply of energy, neither should his healing factor be able to regenerate substantial amount of body tissue without first having a meal (a large one). If you want to go into scientific detail, then alot of things arent possible.

Now I'm not saying this automatically means Wolverine's HF has unlimited energy, I'm just saying you can't rule it out based on "science".

Spiderman.

Originally posted by Mindset
What I don't understand is why we assume his healing factor operated the same when during this time he was immortal.

he was immortal sinces world war 1. Mean when it was stated he needed food , sleep ect. he was already immortal.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Spiderman.

You guys have been debating about how SM's feats arent speed but agility, yet you managed to forget that agility is what's important in hand to hand combat.

Also, speed is a factor of agility (although they cannot be used interchangeably).

On another note, are we declaring Wolverine a Speedster now? Since he can keep up with Speed Demon and all that?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he was immortal sinces world war 1. Mean when it was stated he needed food , sleep ect. he was already immortal.

If he was actually immortal since WW1 why did his hf just recently get to those levels?