Spiderman vs Nightcrawler

Originally posted by Placidity
Ok, I get what you are saying now. But NC has been shown that he is fast enought to dodge bullets aswell. With this feat in mind, he should be able to at least "touch" spiderman irregardless of whether he wins or not.

One only has to be 1/10 as fast as a bullet in order to dodge it from 10ft away. Specifically, one must cover 1ft in the same time the bullet covers 10ft. So NC isn't as fast as a bullet because he dodged them. But if he were then he still couldn't touch Spidey. This is because the SS will warn him even before NC begins to stretch out his hand to try to touch Spidey. Remember, Spidey dodges lasers (speed of light) by moving away before the beam is even fired. He uses his SS to do this.

Okay wiull since we are all saying Spiderman and NC fight to the best of the abilities. NC grabs SM because he can and Teleports pete's head off. GAme over!!! MUHAHAHA

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Okay wiull since we are all saying Spiderman and NC fight to the best of the abilities. NC grabs SM because he can and Teleports pete's head off. GAme over!!! MUHAHAHA

NC can't touch Spidey remember.

"irregardless" isnt a word, just stick to "regardless".
Anyway, the spider-sense is one of those powers that really fluxuated between writers. At times hes fallen for boobytraps laid by the Punisher or jumped by DareDevil. Thats said, this is a close fight. It comes down to Teleport vs SS vs Reflexes vs Strength. Lets assume NC can teleport into proximity of Spider-man at the exact speed his SS triggers. That means Spidey would have to locate Kurt, change his position, and counter/attack him. It sounds like a lot but I suppose its possible. This leads to wheter or not he can avoid the attack and be able to take out NC with a single blow before hes able to teleport again. THAT is where I think NC has the advantage. Even if he isnt using his swords to full effect (he isnt bloodlusted in this fight so he wouldnt) being smacked with the blunt edge of a sword isnt fun. So the longer the fight goes and the more rapidly NC teleports, the more in his favor it goes. Nightcrawler is no slouch in the agility department himself, so I think he would likely take about 6/10 of the fights.

Originally posted by redhotrash
"irregardless" isnt a word, just stick to "regardless".
Anyway, the spider-sense is one of those powers that really fluxuated between writers. At times hes fallen for boobytraps laid by the Punisher or jumped by DareDevil. Thats said, this is a close fight. It comes down to Teleport vs SS vs Reflexes vs Strength. Lets assume NC can teleport into proximity of Spider-man at the exact speed his SS triggers. That means Spidey would have to locate Kurt, change his position, and counter/attack him. It sounds like a lot but I suppose its possible. This leads to wheter or not he can avoid the attack and be able to take out NC with a single blow before hes able to teleport again. THAT is where I think NC has the advantage. Even if he isnt using his swords to full effect (he isnt bloodlusted in this fight so he wouldnt) being smacked with the blunt edge of a sword isnt fun. So the longer the fight goes and the more rapidly NC teleports, the more in his favor it goes. Nightcrawler is no slouch in the agility department himself, so I think he would likely take about 6/10 of the fights.

low showings aren't valid here. So Spidey won't be falling into any booby traps here. Spidey can dodge a bullet from inches away. Also it is speculatic that the SS can't detect where and when NC will teleport. Spidey used SS to hit Spot when he was teleporting. NC is not touching him at all.

Meh, Spider-Man FTW.

Nightcrawler's teleport tactics have been easily countered by Wolverine. Spider-Man can do the same with equal or better ability, thanks to his Spider-Sense.

NC is agile, but Spider-Man edges him out in that category too, IMO, and strength is a no contest. There is too much for Kurt to overcome here. Spider-Man takes a majority.

You mean "speculative". Also Spidey has been tagged by lots of people who dont have the tools Nightcrawler has. Fancy Frigging Dan of the Enforcers has connected with Spidey before. So has the Vulture, Kraven, Black Cat, and lots of other people without the credentials of Nightcrawler. The added use of swords makes what wouldve been an irritating punch into a potentially lethal or knockout blow.
Another way to think about it, in a straight up fight, no teleporting, Nightcrawler should be able to make at least a decent showing against Spidey. His teleportation powers should give him a real edge.

Originally posted by h1a8
NC can't touch Spidey remember.

I don't remember a event that has yet to happen NC not ever touching SM... because he errr... kinda already smacked him in the face a bit so yeah i would consider that touching... ANyway NC wins due to tactical advantage but, this fight will never be written in comic books as NC as victor because
A. SM is a bigger celeb
B. If NC started doing this as a routine move he would be too amazing.
C. NC really not that type of guy who would do that usually.

But in KMC where Characters fight to the best of their ability. I not going to continue on saying NC vs Supes and he will just teleport of his head. Im just saying in this scenario it may be a likely move used by NC. If he didn't do that and it was a straight up fight. hmmm I got to think about it.

Since their last fight, NC's gotten better with his teleportation, Spiderman has stayed the same thanks to OMD. lol.

Originally posted by jinzin
Since their last fight, NC's gotten better with his teleportation, Spiderman has stayed the same thanks to OMD. lol.

Yup, nothing like retconning 10 years of character growth to cripple a superhero and lose a quarter of his readers.

😉

I seriously still can't believe that they have him back living with his Aunt .... what a loser.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I don't remember a event that has yet to happen NC not ever touching SM... because he errr... kinda already smacked him in the face a bit so yeah i would consider that touching...

Well, we ARE talking about h1's Spiderman who:
Sees the world as a living statue.
Is actually stronger than the proportionate strength of a Spider has he's claimed all his existence.
Runs faster than a bullet.
Is REALLY 40 times faster than a human.
and has a Spider sense that actually works as precognition so he's seen everything comin his way since way before he was born.

This is of course the same Spiderman based off of his video games, MTV's animated show, and of course *snickers* "common sense"...

hysterical

Originally posted by Scoobless
Yup, nothing like retconning 10 years of character growth to cripple a superhero and lose a quarter of his readers.

😉

I seriously still can't believe that they have him back living with his Aunt .... what a loser.

Lol agreed. I actually liked watching him grow up. he was really one of the only comic characters who went from childhood to adulthood... I can't believe they messed that up.

Spidey wins the majority, but Nightcrawler puts up a good fight.

nightcrawler slight majority 6/10

I rule.

Taking the scenario into consideration, Nightcrawler wins.

I think NC

Still Spiderman.

Originally posted by h1a8
Spidey will use the SS to determine the exact time and place NC will teleport. Then it's lights out.

Agreed.

The high end SS is hard to beat, considering it tells the direction, and intensity of the attack..

It even warned him off against disease once...