Teleportation is too much. SS offers a counter, but it's not 100%
TP also works for evasion and SS wouldnt even tingle when it's used without aggressive intention, so kurt can avoid SM better than SM can avoid kurt.
The swords, even when used in less than lethal ways, render SM's durabilty a moot point and their reflexes are roughly comparable.
It kind of seems hard to believe that pete would have problems with kurt. hell he fought and beat firelord. he was terrified during that battle and he completly went of on a herald of galactus and beat him. Even captain america commented on how firelord could not lay a glove on him. I don`t think wagner is as fast or as strong as spidey. It all depends on whether peter`s head is "in the game".
Originally posted by sharky137
It kind of seems hard to believe that pete would have problems with kurt. hell he fought and beat firelord. he was terrified during that battle and he completly went of on a herald of galactus and beat him. Even captain america commented on how firelord could not lay a glove on him. I don`t think wagner is as fast or as strong as spidey. It all depends on whether peter`s head is "in the game".
Except Kurt(who didn't want to fight) already slugged it out with Spidey and did pretty good for himself.
And you know as well as anyone else that that fight was BS.
Originally posted by sharky137
It kind of seems hard to believe that pete would have problems with kurt. hell he fought and beat firelord. he was terrified during that battle and he completly went of on a herald of galactus and beat him. Even captain america commented on how firelord could not lay a glove on him. I don`t think wagner is as fast or as strong as spidey. It all depends on whether peter`s head is "in the game".
you cannot be serious about firelord
Originally posted by Parmaniac😆 👆 I always wondered - is it so hard to find someone who can speak foreign languages properly? I wanna throw up every time Colossus says something in russian or comes up with an "old russian saying" that wouldnt even make sense in russian. I bet same works for Kurt's german.
Spider-man hits his head till he speaks proper german.
PS: Spider-man can sense Kurt's teleportations even if they're not attacks. And he's dodged teleporters before. They werent as fast as Kurt but one of them had a gun. Makes it even harder.
Originally posted by SamZED
😆 👆 I always wondered - is it so hard to find someone who can speak foreign languages properly? I wanna throw up every time Colossus says something in russian or comes up with an "old russian saying" that wouldnt even make sense in russian. I bet same works for Kurt's german.PS: Spider-man can sense Kurt's teleportations even if they're not attacks. And he's dodged teleporters before. They werent as fast as Kurt but one of them had a gun. Makes it even harder.
I think they have computer programs translate sentences for them. All french, spanish and portuguese ones I've seen were also full of mistakes or simply didnt make sense, although spanish usually does a little better than the others.
SS woul be able to predict the point in space where kurt would teleport to, if it wasn't an attack? I'm skeptical. Even anticipating an evasive, non agressive TP seems out of SS usual showings.
Originally posted by KingD19
Except Kurt(who didn't want to fight) already slugged it out with Spidey and did pretty good for himself.And you know as well as anyone else that that fight was BS.
But wasn't that early Spidey/Nightcrawler fight during the time when Nightcrawler was generally shown to have superhuman strength (i.e. during Cockrum's first X-Men run)? If so, it makes sense that Spidey would feel his blows. After this his enhanced strength was forgotten about, he never seemed more than regular human, unless he has strength feats I don't know about.
Anyway, in this scenario I give 5/10 for both.
Originally posted by 753He wouldn't know the exact point but there are examples (recently) where he can estimate how far he is away.
A defensive one, it's easier for him to avoid getting tagged than it is for SM, specially because they have roughly similar reaction times.
proof from Amazing Spider-man V1 594
but of course the whole SS fluctuates
