Originally posted by janus77But people want to see his fists blurring around an opponent with after images. Only then (maybe), will they concede that the Surfer could possibly have functional battle speed.
damn, really am getting too engrossed in these debates now. any other day I would have spotted that 😮. true, too.well, given how Surfer has used superspeed against Deathurge, against entire armadas, it's established that he has no problem with it in combat either.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
But people want to see his fists blurring around an opponent with after images. Only then (maybe), will they concede that the Surfer could possibly have functional battle speed.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
To say Surfer would be able to handle Flash's speed is ridiculous, especially considering Surfer's few and ambiguous 'speed feats'.
That isn't a fair comparison is it? All speed feats that are not explicitly numbered or scaled on-panel are already ambiguous by default. As for number of feats, correct me if I am mistaken, but Wally has more appearances, no?
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Or the feat Darthgoober already posted in which he caught up to an electronic signal in an enclosed structure while literally in pieces, nearly unconscious, and with his PC drained.The phrase "few speed feats" in conjunction with the Silver Surfer demonstrates either a lack of subject matter or willful ignorance.
It's pretty unimpressive that he almost let himself be killed like that :/
Originally posted by Ouallada
It's in his respect thread.I've never seen the surfer track sentient lifeforms using his cosmic awareness, and while I cannot logically deny that he may have been using his cosmic senses, it is only logical from my point of view to conclude that the bulk of the search was physical, with his senses probably being used in a radial sense. In any case, it was a great feat regardless of any ambiguity.
I don't doubt that it was a great feat.
Originally posted by llagrok🙂
It's pretty unimpressive that he almost let himself be killed like that :/
Really, how much better does it get when Surfer fanboys and Flash fanboys go at each other? 😄
Originally posted by AcrosurgeA reasonable request but likely not gonna happen. It's just not "Silver Surfery," even though it is logically well within his powerset. This kind of fighting style is simple not what SS does. We wanna see beams and matter transformation; leave the flailing fisticuffs to the likes of Superman because that's what Supes does.
But people want to see his fists blurring around an opponent with after images. Only then (maybe), will they concede that the Surfer could possibly have functional battle speed.
But just for the satisfaction, I wouldn't mind seeing those after images myself.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
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This is an argument, how? Few other characters would have survived in that situation, deprived of their power source. Wally, separated from the Speed Force, would have been killed by the first beam attack.Really, how much better does it get when Surfer fanboys and Flash fanboys go at each other? 😄
Without the Power Cosmic, Norrin isn't capable of doing anything either. What kind of argument is THAT?
If the Surfer is supposed to be so fast, he wouldn't allow himself to be sliced up to the point where he's near death.
Originally posted by llagrokSurfer was being drained of his Power Cosmic. That's why he was hit in the first place. If Wally had his connection to the Speed Force siphoned off, he would have been hit too and would have died as a result.
Without the Power Cosmic, Norrin isn't capable of doing anything either. What kind of argument is THAT?If the Surfer is supposed to be so fast, he wouldn't allow himself to be sliced up to the point where he's near death.
Originally posted by llagrokSince Flash could not have survived similar circumstances, I'd say it is pretty impressive.
It's pretty unimpressive that he almost let himself be killed like that :/
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Since Flash could not have survived similar circumstances, I'd say it is pretty impressive.
The point is that Flash wouldn't have been hit.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
[B]Surfer was being drained of his Power Cosmic. That's why he was hit in the first place. If Wally had his connection to the Speed Force siphoned off, he would have been hit too and would have died as a result./B]
You don't know that.
And "siphoned his connection to the speed force"? please
Originally posted by llagrokSpeculation. The structure drained the Surfer's energy and Motherboard 49.7 Central sapped the Surfer's will. Somehow, Flash could avoid the same thing?
The point is that Flash wouldn't have been hit.
Deprived of his energy and will, how would Flash have survived a being cut into pieces?
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Speculation. The structure drained the Surfer's energy and Motherboard 49.7 Central sapped the Surfer's will. Somehow, Flash could avoid the same thing? As I said, speculation.
No more speculation that Flash would have been hit :/
But fortunately, Wally has far more and far better speed feats than Surfer. Naturally, he has far better chances at dodging the lasers.