Thanos,Thor(classic),WW Hulk vs. Superman,Wonderwoman,Orion,Superman(kc)

Started by janus7718 pages

Originally posted by fangirl101
All that is nice. Hulk is out of his league in this fight. Slow, Can't fly, no versatility in his power set. He's beheaded in the first second of the fight.

not one of Team 2 could ever hope to achieve that.
he could easily be bfr'd but not beheaded.
at best they'd find their fist stuck in his throat, with Hulk really pissed off... leading to the only logical conclusion, one dead assailant.

Hulk's limitations as far as speed are overcome by his reaction speed and unerring accuracy, which mean that he can and will tag anyone that comes into range, what he can't do (and what I agree with you on) is to overcome the lack of flight.

this would mean that he has to fight Orion, which should be easy for him to do. maybe a bit of a drawn out match, but in the end Hulk will emerge with Orion's carcass dangling from the end of his outstretched arm - like BlackBolt.

Originally posted by janus77
not one of Team 2 could ever hope to achieve that.
he could easily be bfr'd but not beheaded.
at best they'd find their fist stuck in his throat, with Hulk really pissed off... leading to the only logical conclusion, one dead assailant.

Hulk's limitations as far as speed are overcome by his reaction speed and unerring accuracy, which mean that he can and will tag anyone that comes into range, what he can't do (and what I agree with you on) is to overcome the lack of flight.

this would mean that he has to fight Orion, which should be easy for him to do. maybe a bit of a drawn out match, but in the end Hulk will emerge with Orion's carcass dangling from the end of his outstretched arm - like BlackBolt.


Sorry your knowlege of DC characters is limited. Orion can Fly. Has a MB and the AF. He would beat Hulk. Either Supermen could behead the Hulk before he could move. His reactions speeds are not the great. Unless you can show me the Hulk actually fighting someone in a prolongued fight with Thier level of Speed, Strength,and Invulnerability. Remember KC superman is far above regular Superman. And Wonder Woman's Tiara pretty much can slice thru anyone's head. Hulk is down for the count.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Wait? You mean gog who pretty much was being hammered by the Entire JSA and still kept fighting? The same one who made even the Amped Infinity Man turn and leave? WTF.
Im wasnt there to bring him in or kill him. Im is overrated as the agent anyways.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Im wasnt there to bring him in or kill him. Im is overrated as the agent anyways.

Gog was trying to kill The IM. Duh. All false Gods must die. IM being overrated? The One who lit up the cosmos in a fight with Orion? The One who easily over powered Takion WITH highfather's staff? Just stop right now.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
In no way is Thor or the Hulk, talking down KC Supes. Regular Superman has been under the sun's rays over 30 years now. And look at the mount power he has amassed. Superman doesn't aways knock his foes off the planet. But his powers are controlled instinctively, so whenever he needs to apply that level of strength. He does it with little effort. WWH's durability, isn't in the same league as Superman'. WWH's skin can be cut or pierced with enough force on direct contact. Hulk's durability is centered around is HF (which is the reason why he can take so much punishment along with his rage and insanity as the Hulk). Superman's durability is centered around his aura (which can withstand a lot of punishment). The damage that Superman takes, doesn't even come in contact with his skin. Superman can take a lot of damage without showing any signs of bruises or cuts for a long time. So superman's durability is better. KC Supes (who has been under the sun's rays, several decades longer), would take WWH or Thor (with little effort). I think WW would give Thor problems by herself. And Orion doesn't need to have blood lust on. He's a warrior who loves to fight with rage. And the "astro force", knocked out "Big Blue" before with one hit. I don't think classic Thor or the World War Hulk can stand against the "astro force". And Thanos can't take out all four of them by himself. So team ftw, 7-8/10.
WW Hulk could have killed off all of earths heroes. He proved his point and spared the whole bunch. He accomplished this through intelligence,trickery,and badassery. He gave his opponents time to stop him as well. They didnt.

WW Hulk's healing ability is so insane it puts him over kc Supes. Again who did kc Supes defeat that regualr supes couldnt defeat?

Superman has also been knocked senselss by Kalibak which would only have pissed the Hulk off. WW Hulk>kc supes.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Gog was trying to kill The IM. Duh. All false Gods must die. IM being overrated? The One who lit up the cosmos in a fight with Orion? The One who easily over powered Takion WITH highfather's staff? Just stop right now.
Gog let him escape and my point was that Im wasnt there to kill Gog.

Orion is just is just a top tier. Takion with the staff didnt do anything to impress me. Nothing.

Again overrated.

galan_kc_supes>>>>>>galan_superman>>>WWH.

supes

Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk could have killed off all of earths heroes. He proved his point and spared the whole bunch. He accomplished this through intelligence,trickery,and badassery. He gave his opponents time to stop him as well. They didnt.

WW Hulk's healing ability is so insane it puts him over kc Supes. Again who did kc Supes defeat that regualr supes couldnt defeat?

Superman has also been knocked senselss by Kalibak which would only have pissed the Hulk off. WW Hulk>kc supes.


Let's go slow.

Hulk could have killed off all of earth's heroes? No Thor around. No Silver surfer. Dr. Strange depowered and acting an idiot. A skrull Black bolt. Seems like the heavy hitters were no were around.

He used intelligence and trickery? Doesn't sound like he over powered anyone. He barely kept up with Sentry.

Superman has been knocked Senseless by Kalibak who is as strong as any top tier, and Superman had also been battling Mantis as well as Kalibak for a period of time. Context is everything.

Oh and KC supers took a punch from Herculese. The same one that knocked Superman clean off of his feat. Then Bitched Herculese.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gog let him escape and my point was that Im wasnt there to kill Gog.

Orion is just is just a top tier. Takion with the staff didnt do anything to impress me. Nothing.

Again overrated.

What the hell as Thanos done that was impressive with out prep?

Originally posted by fangirl101
What the hell as Thanos done that was impressive with out prep?
Taking pg Thors best shots and imprisoning him when he wanted to end it. Beating and mindraping the Maker. Breaking the Surfer in two pages. Playing with the Fallen One like a child and making him his own personal herald.

Launching Galactus a few football fields. Taking Odins crap in asgard and still standing before his latest upgrade(s). Is that good enough?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
galan_kc_supes>>>>>>galan_superman>>>WWH.

supes

More than a few disagree. I am not impressed by kc Supes either.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Let's go slow.

Hulk could have killed off all of earth's heroes? No Thor around. No Silver surfer. Dr. Strange depowered and acting an idiot. A skrull Black bolt. Seems like the heavy hitters were no were around.

He used intelligence and trickery? Doesn't sound like he over powered anyone. He barely kept up with Sentry.

Superman has been knocked Senseless by Kalibak who is as strong as any top tier, and Superman had also been battling Mantis as well as Kalibak for a period of time. Context is everything.

Oh and KC supers took a punch from Herculese. The same one that knocked Superman clean off of his feat. Then Bitched Herculese.

Sentry is more than Superman. Hulk wasnt at his most powerful until the end of the story. He tricked and beat Stranges ass when he came back merged with a portion of Zom. He annihilated the ff4,a crapload of mutants, and the avengers. He was badass.

Supes struggles with an amp against WW who was holding back. 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
More than a few disagree. I am not impressed by kc Supes either.

The one thing that could kill him, no longer has an a effect on him anymore. That saids a lot about KC Supes in it's self.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
The one thing that could kill him, no longer has an a effect on him anymore. That saids a lot about KC Supes in it's self.
Kc Supes can die and to say that he cant die is ignorant imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry is more than Superman. Hulk wasnt at his most powerful until the end of the story. He tricked and beat Stranges ass when he came back merged with a portion of Zom. He annihilated the ff4,a crapload of mutants, and the avengers. He was badass.

Supes struggles with an amp against WW who was holding back. 😉

Sentry is more than Superman? If you had any credibility, It's gone. A statement with no backing what so ever.
Hulk wasn't at his most powerful until the end of the story? Hmm? And he still couldn't manage to beat sentry, who's had trouble with Ultron?
Strange merged with Zom has what feats? None. The FF has been beaten by Terrax. One lowly herald. I'm not impressed at the Hulk.

Supers Struggled against Wondy? No He didn't. He broke her wrist and One shotted her from the sun to the earth. He didn't know who he was fighting. Yes he was over powered. But the fact that he didnt' know who he was fighting takes your statement down to nothing. the feat was in Wondy's Surviving at all.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Sentry is more than Superman? If you had any credibility, It's gone. A statement with no backing what so ever.
Hulk wasn't at his most powerful until the end of the story? Hmm? And he still couldn't manage to beat sentry, who's had trouble with Ultron?
Strange merged with Zom has what feats? None. The FF has been beaten by Terrax. One lowly herald. I'm not impressed at the Hulk.

Supers Struggled against Wondy? No He didn't. He broke her wrist and One shotted her from the sun to the earth. He didn't know who he was fighting. Yes he was over powered. But the fact that he didnt' know who he was fighting takes your statement down to nothing. the feat was in Wondy's Surviving at all.

Lots of sentry backers out there.

They are close I admit but Sentry imo is more powerful than Supes without his glaring weaknesses either.

Sentry was tapping into more power than ever before. The guy raped Terrax like he was a street leveler. To beat sentry in any way especially when he isnt holding back is friggin impressive to say the least.

When did the ff beat Terrax? Context friend.

WW was holding back and still managed to prevent Supes who was going for the kill to stop Max.

Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk could have killed off all of earths heroes. He proved his point and spared the whole bunch. He accomplished this through intelligence,trickery,and badassery. He gave his opponents time to stop him as well. They didnt.

Bullshit. Ghost Rider could've taken him out. Doctor Strange could've (he was doing so, too, until he got tricked). Juggernaut could've also (and Hulk clearly knew this, which is why he very intelligently sent Juggy on his way far from the Hulk).

That's three people off the top of my head who could've taken Hulk out.

I'm not voting in this match because I honestly don't know enough about the DC characters (especially Orion) as I'd like, but I do know my Marvel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lots of sentry backers out there.

They are close I admit but Sentry imo is more powerful than Supes without his glaring weaknesses either.

Sentry was tapping into more power than ever before. The guy raped Terrax like he was a street leveler. To beat sentry in any way especially when he isnt holding back is friggin impressive to say the least.

When did the ff beat Terrax? Context friend.

WW was holding back and still managed to prevent Supes who was going for the kill to stop Max.

Um, Terrax beat the FF. Easily. And not even his right body. So the Hulk beating them does NOT impress. Sentry tapped into more power than ever? Says who? Terrax is a low level herald. Any number of beings can do that. WW prevented Superman from Killing her with Skill, Excellent Durability, Her animal powers, trickery, strength, and MAGIC.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Bullshit. Ghost Rider could've taken him out. Doctor Strange could've (he was doing so, too, until he got tricked). Juggernaut could've also (and Hulk clearly knew this, which is why he very intelligently sent Juggy on his way far from the Hulk).

That's three people off the top of my head who could've taken Hulk out.

I'm not voting in this match because I honestly don't know enough about the DC characters (especially Orion) as I'd like, but I do know my Marvel.

Ghost Rider didnt so dont speculate. Strange could have but like I said the Hulk used trickery because he is intelligent and crafty.

Hulk beat Juggs once and he came back and was quickly bfr'd. He wasnt there for Juggs and lucky for Juggs.

And furthermore, WWH really IS the weak link in this fight. He's taken out almost immediately, floating through space.

Thor is actually much more a threat than people are giving him credit. Alone, he has a great chance of taking out Superman.

However, Wonder Woman is also a huge threat here, which others are overlooking, too.

Just saying.