Originally posted by fangirl101Interesting that the Spectre would say with a large portion of mxy's power,
the joker would destroy EVERYTHING.
Not just your earth. Not just your universe.This is a STATEMENT to the absolute power that mxy does wield.
Your impartial outlook is refreshing. 😏
Originally posted by celestialdemon
When Genis and Entropy destroyed and replaced Eternity, that was their goal. When Reed used the UN, his goal was to reset the Multiverse to get rid of Abraxas. Those were their goals. In WF, Mxy's goal was to destroy everything because he was tired of it all. It even shows him jumping to different universes (or multiverses, whatever they were) and destroying them. He even goes on a rant, something like no more this, no more that, no more anything. That's a lot different than what Reed and Genis were trying to do.
erm erm erm. NO! 😛 . genis was driven insane, entropy's soul purpose for existance was to destroy creation and kill eternity. it was only after they had both succeded and stood in NOTHINGNESS, that entropy looke back and said, NOW WHAT, he felt empty and genis was of the oppinion that everything be restarted and he imposed that oppinion by shooting entropy in a bad ass style. lol. so the very purpose was destruction for those two. with the ultimate nullifier, the purpose doesnt matter as all things WERE destroyed and then recreated, like the heart of infinity{infact you wudnt find a single thing which wud definitively provide a different between the two. both were used to correct flaws in the universe and both required the destruction of it}. it is pretty similar to hoti, and yet even though thanos never mentioned anything other than a universe, we accept that it was a multiverse and PROBABLY greater than the nullifier since LT was specifically there.
these shud be annough destructive parallels to MYXPTLK. either way, i hope u get the point im making. you cant take statements ate face value without looking at evidence for and ahainst it.
Originally posted by Galan007He didnt contain all of the power of Zeus and Shazam just a portion. He didnt contain all of the power of the Source.
1.) It was a direct shot.2.) Gog's staff houses:
The combined energy of the Guardians,
the power of the Source,
the magic of Zeus and Shazam,
and the power of a dozen red suns.You have any clue as to how much power that is? By your posts, I guess not.
3.) Mxy's back was turned [ie. he had no idea it was coming].
4.) All he did was mutter his name backwards after he was shot, and *poof* he was back in the 5th-d, and healthy as ever.
So was it a low showing? Hell no.
But the forum has come to expect such exaggerations from you. Afterall, you act like it's your god-given task to try and belittle a character, no matter how ridiculous you have to be. [if you don't favor them in a thread]..
But carry on, it is funny as hell to watch, afterall. 🙂
It was a shot aimed at Superman and Mxy got hit and was easily defeated. Again Gog vs something with real power such as the ig would easily defeat Gog. Mxy couldnt survive one blast. He is nowhere near as powerful as the ig. Fact.
he lost according to forum battles. Thats all I care about.Oneshot city.
Again I am presenting facts here. Dont get riled up its just comics friend.
Originally posted by leonheartmm omniscient characters do not have a subconcious as they know EVERYTHING and knowing perfectly has to do with the CONCIOUS mind. also, your theory is a hypothesis with nothing pointing towards it. infact warlock said that he missed him and death. who are we to speculate without evidence on what was never stated?
the second paragraph is also conjecture and speculation with nothing pointing towards it, thanos never claimed to destroy anything more than a UNIverse on panel need i remind you. we can only go by feats or postive unfalsified on panel statements, neither supports your argument that he COULD have destroyed more.
the writer making the character do whatever he wants still doesnt make the character the WRITER. people are repeatedly bringing up TOAA=writer and thanos WAS TOAA. its ridiculous, he was extremely powerful IN the comics, he wasnt on the other hand as powerul as a writer. as they say, pawns can never become players. also, that wud imply that the WRITERS cudnt correct a flaw in the 616 reality and therefore ad to reply on THANOS to correct it. tell me how ridiculous that statement sounds in your head.
Originally posted by fangirl101Nah, Mxy on panel feats>Michael.
Micheal's feats include creating Mxy and everthing else. He is the creation power. the Actual power of God. He was used to create while Lucy was used to control and fashion. The reason I argue against the Classic Beyonder is because he did NOT create everything. He did NOT destroy everything. He didn't even actually fight anyone of note except the Multideath.
Mxy a being who can be oneshotted by Gog from kingdom can defeat Michael because of his impressive feats.
Originally posted by leonheartmmentropy's soul purpose for existance was to destroy creation and kill eternity.
Originally posted by leonheartmmit was only after they had both succeded and stood in NOTHINGNESS,
that entropy looke back and said, NOW WHAT, he felt empty and genis was of the oppinion that everything be restarted and he imposed that oppinion by shooting entropy in a bad ass style. lol.
so the very purpose was destruction for those two.
616 and/or the prime Multiverse that houses 616 dies,
all realities a nanosecond later implode likewise. (on panel fact)
Originally posted by leonheartmmwith the ultimate nullifier, the purpose doesnt matter as all things WERE destroyed and then recreated, like the heart of infinity{infact you wudnt find a single thing which wud definitively provide a different between the two. both were used to correct flaws in the universe and both required the destruction of it}. it is pretty similar to hoti, and yet even though thanos never mentioned anything other than a universe, we accept that it was a multiverse and PROBABLY greater than the nullifier since LT was specifically there.
The UN re-created the prime Multiverse in an instant.
THOTI absorbed all of Time/Space in Marvel,
then created anew all of Time/Space in Marvel.
Originally posted by leonheartmmthese shud be annough destructive parallels to MYXPTLK. either way, i hope u get the point im making.
you cant take statements ate face value without looking at evidence for and ahainst it.
Originally posted by leonheartmmyes, your predecessor galacticstorm
made quite a fuss about that particular scan
in a bid to prove that phenix was then where you put LT now.
Then I noticed that your intransigence outshines his by far.
"to prove that phoenix was then where you put LT now?"
Thought you were told to lay off dem drugs before debating? ... stoned
Originally posted by Astner
Having information in your subconscious then you're still know it, you're simply not aware of it.
And again, if Thanos was omnipotent he should have the power to impose it on himself.
Yes it's a hypothesis, just like what you're saying is.Actually, he affected multiple time-lines. And the Hanbooks confirms that he destroyed the Multiverse.
Having the power of TOAA and being TOAA are two completely different things. TOAA does not exist in the fictional world for one.
And of if the writer wanted not to be able to fix the flaw, then he wouldn't, right?
yes it a hypothesis with NO EVIDENCE to back it up, and evidence AGAINST it, as it is implied in simple translation on panel that thanos mised death and warlock completely, so you are simply basing your agrument on negetive evidence.
yes timelines, which conflict with his repeated use of the word UNIverse. just making the point that debating tactics based on "this is stated ON PANEL" when sumthing completely contrary is also stated on panel dont work well. i have no trouble beleiving it was a multiverse, as it destroyed LT, but again, if we were to go by the logic you and sum others were using, we wud have to beleive that thanos destroyed nuthing but a universe. similarly, it wasnt a megaverse or an omniverse as some claim, that is silly.
as for the last part, power of toaa doesnt simply mean pure strength,. it also means omniscience etc so its better to stop making the unfounded parallel that he was SUPREME or that he had teh power of TOAA or that he was GOD, all are false.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, Mxy on panel feats>Michael.Mxy a being who can be oneshotted by Gog from kingdom can defeat Michael because of his impressive feats.
right, not having read lucifer or seen all of myxptlks on panel feats, you will make a statement simply to depower a character or show them in a bad light with no evidence to back it up? ive already explanined how myxptlk wasnt as powerful as micheal.
Originally posted by leonheartmmYour posts are heard to read through. Try spacing them out.
right, not having read lucifer or seen all of myxptlks on panel feats, you will make a statement simply to depower a character or show them in a bad light with no evidence to back it up? ive already explanined how myxptlk wasnt as powerful as micheal.
You avoid scans,dont back up your claims,and twist things for your favorite characters.
Mxy>Michael according to feats on panel.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
right, not having read lucifer or seen all of myxptlks on panel feats, you will make a statement simply to depower a character or show them in a bad light with no evidence to back it up? ive already explanined how myxptlk wasnt as powerful as micheal.
There is also more than one Mxy. The only one with infinite power is the new earth one. every other version is universal or just greater than universal. There even seems to be an order to the imps.
Originally posted by Mr Master
True.Actually Rick came up with the idea to create,
and Entropy agreed but didn't know how to create,
so Genis helped him by bursting his form which re-created Eternity,
and as a result, "ALL Creation."616 and/or the prime Multiverse that houses 616 dies,
all realities a nanosecond later implode likewise. (on panel fact)The different is that an [b]Incomplete
IG > UN, LT > IG, HOTI > LT.The UN re-created the prime Multiverse in an instant.
THOTI absorbed all of Time/Space in Marvel,
then created anew all of Time/Space in Marvel.🙄 [/B]
yea, it was rick while genis was claiming to be a bastard god. but the POINT i was making was that the feat was very similar to what thanos with the heart of infinity did as far as FEATS go, so how do we make the distinction that what thanos did was superior? i was directing it at the previous remark.
but what i dont understand in that is how you can say that an incomplete IG was greater than the ultimate nullifier????? i mean, as far i know, i havent heard anything which wud be able to compare the two. also, abraxas was an omniversal threat{in marvel terminology not mine as ud know} and even roma faced him, and he was done in by the nullifier, as was the whole multiverse. but at the same time, the infinity gauntlett has no better showings than killing universal abstracts and was overpowered by a single tap from LT and even resisted for a time when dr. strange combined all his magical artifacts, so how is is superior to the nullifier? also a>b>c logic can be highly misleading in sumthing as inconcistant as marvel.
so really, what are the graces, other than killin LT of thanos's feats above those of other previously reality ending feats?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Your posts are heard to read through. Try spacing them out.You avoid scans,dont back up your claims,and twist things for your favorite characters.
Mxy>Michael according to feats on panel.
you havent READ lucifer! ive already explained how myx is weaker. and on panel feats of lucifer have him standing at ground zero of a multiverse hattering explosion and not fealing a scratch, then creating his own multiverse from it. good luck trying to find sumthing similar of myxptlk. 😆 . i have given scans when lucifer was ocncerned because i have em all on my pc. ive explained this.
Originally posted by Mr Master
GS and I have absolutely nothing in common,
but I think it's eerie that you're even bringing his name up
when for a minute
I thought you were his sock account.Then I noticed that your intransigence outshines his by far.
"to prove that phoenix was then where you put LT now?"
Thought you were told to lay off dem drugs before debating? ... stoned
long posts which arent meant to be replied to, self contradicting evidence, addition of personal oppinion to on panel evidence, personal insults, unwarranted interpretations of evidence, concentration only on high end feats and avoiding low end feats, obsession with proving one or two specific entities as above evrything else, arrogance and continuous unwarranted complains to admins when you see too much opposition, as well as faaaar too much time on your hand. yup, your pretty similar to galactic storm. he was a bit more severe, but still.
why wud i be his sock account, i was perhaps the person on this forum atleats early on, who actually took the time to debate and refute each point of his and he hated me for it. it was a rather well known opposition in those old days.
Originally posted by leonheartmmSigh. Did I say Lucy or did I say Michael? That blast would kill Mxy but he would reform in the fifth dimension fine as dandy.
you havent READ lucifer! ive already explained how myx is weaker. and on panel feats of lucifer have him standing at ground zero of a multiverse hattering explosion and not fealing a scratch, then creating his own multiverse from it. good luck trying to find sumthing similar of myxptlk. 😆 . i have given scans when lucifer was ocncerned because i have em all on my pc. ive explained this.
Originally posted by leonheartmmyes timelines, which conflict with his repeated use of the word UNIverse. just making the point that debating tactics based on "this is stated ON PANEL" when sumthing completely contrary is also stated on panel dont work well.
So if Thanos embodied TimelineS, like a grain a sand in distant Future
or
an asteroid in the early Big Bang
then when Thanos said "I was bonded to Omni-Reality"
he surely meant the Marvel Omniverse.
Originally posted by leonheartmmas for the last part, power of toaa doesnt simply mean pure strength,. it also means omniscience etc
so its better to stop making the unfounded parallel that he was SUPREME
or that he had teh power of TOAA or that he was GOD, all are false.
I think I'll take Marvel's word on that one,
from their on panel illustrations in Marvel comics,
to the confirmation of said on panel illustrations in official Marvel Handbooks,
to Thanos' own bio which clearly states he became the "one true Supreme being,
to Eternity/Infinity/and the LT's bio all state Thanos [/i]destroyed All Reality[/i]/All that Existed.
THOTI owned the LT effortlessly, LT who is second to TOAA.
On top of all that ... (as if it isn't enough) ...😆
Jim Starlin (writer/creator of Thanos/Infinity Gauntlet and The End: Marvel)
stated in two official interviews:
"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe
it ought to be the real thing"
AND!!!
"Thanos basically became GOD!"
NOW!!!
You can dismiss this, spin this, contort it, or simply intransigently ignore it,
but you can't change these facts, no matter how many unsupported essays you post.
😮💨
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sigh. Did I say Lucy or did I say Michael? That blast would kill Mxy but he would reform in the fifth dimension fine as dandy.
the majority's of micheal's appearances are in the lucifer series. so what was your point? take the time to actually read lucifer and then perhaps every1 may give weight to such claims coming from you, but you havent yet.