joker with full power of MYXPTLK/ full power parallex/full power swamp thing vs LT

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gog did defeat Mxy with one indirect shot.

2.) Gog's staff houses:
The combined energy of the Guardians,
the power of the Source,
the magic of Zeus and Shazam,
and the power of a dozen red suns.

You have any clue as to how much power that is? By your posts, I guess not.

3.) Mxy's back was turned [ie. he had no idea it was coming].

4.) All he did was mutter his name backwards after he was shot, and *poof* he was back in the 5th-d, and healthy as ever.

So was it a low showing? Hell no.

But the forum has come to expect such exaggerations from you. Afterall, you act like it's your god-given task to try and belittle a character, no matter how ridiculous you have to be. [if you don't favor them in a thread]..

But carry on, it is funny as hell to watch, afterall. 🙂

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Just interesting how you consider Michael more powerful than Mxy even though his feats aren't even close to what Mxy has shown. Yet, you are have argued against pre-retcon Beyonder's power because he didn't have the feats to back it up. But that's a off topic for this thread. Thanks for answering the question, though.

hmmm, micheal created the basis and half of two multiverses while elain with his demiurgos fully created a third multiverse. this is myxptl threatening dc, one multiverse and i doubt its influence reaches beyond the source wall. also, micheal's power when released{and it can do so again and again and again until the time micheal for sum reason willingly gives it up. otherwise he can not be killed like lucifer, death has no domain over micheal demiurgos} could destroy a multiverse straight out without even struggling against the spectre or myx etc. myxptlk is also part of micheal and lucifers creation. none are above those two but yahweh. and even that had become debateable by teh end of the luycifer series. micheal wud destroy myxptlk.

Joker never had Mxy's powers... he had Batmite's powers. doped

Originally posted by batdude123
Joker never had Mxy's powers... he had Batmite's powers. doped

You are right. Superman/Batman 25. And batmite is like far far far under mxy's power.

Man, that Spectre sure jobs!

And Mxy's feats include both destroying and recreating EVERYTHING in DC, which if we take Mxy at his word, includes Michael and Lucifer, does it not?

Originally posted by batdude123
Joker never had Mxy's powers... he had Batmite's powers. doped

Originally posted by Galan007
Proof that Bat-Mite is part of Mxy's power...

These scans came after the first Emperor Joker incident -- and after Mxy's powers were restored.

Mxy says to Joker...

"You were never meant to have access to ALL my 5th Dimensional magics, that was MY bad."

"That all got erased... But you apparently held onto one little bit that I want back":

The scan above then leads to this scan in which Joker pukes up Bat-Mite:

(Bat-Mite was just the, "one little bit" that Mxy wanted back).

Originally posted by Galan007
ermmno

Just how powerful is Batmite? It looks like the two are still playing with reality. And Mxy hadn't ever given Joker all of his power in the first place. The scan seems contradictory.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Just how powerful is Batmite? It looks like the two are still playing with reality. And Mxy hadn't ever given Joker all of his power in the first place. The scan seems contradictory.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And Mxy hadn't ever given Joker all of his power in the first place. The scan seems contradictory.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
And Mxy's feats include both destroying and recreating EVERYTHING in DC, which if we take Mxy at his word, includes Michael and Lucifer, does it not?

Since when are Aspecs of God included in Everything. Wouldn't they be beyond everything? Everything is subjective in comics. Kind of how like Thanos absorbed Everything but not Adam Worlock and Death.

Originally posted by Galan007
ermmno

What? That doesn't necessarily mean that Batmite is part of Mxy's power.

It could simply mean that Mxy treats Batmite as if he were nothing more than a dog...

Originally posted by fangirl101
Since when are Aspecs of God included in Everything. Wouldn't they be beyond everything? Everything is subjective in comics. Kind of how like Thanos absorbed Everything but not Adam Worlock and Death.

The difference is when Thanos was said to absorb everything, they actually showed Warlock and Death. When Mxy destroyed everything, they didn't show an exception. So if he said everything, we take it as everything, do we not?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
And Mxy's feats include both destroying and recreating EVERYTHING in DC, which if we take Mxy at his word, includes Michael and Lucifer, does it not?

everything is a very reletive term. it cud refer to universe or a multiverse. do remember that the spectar's domain ends with the single multiverse of yahweh. he has no part to play or domain over lucifer's or elaine's multiverses. also, the city of heaven exists outside the main multiverse, above it. it is basically the place that connects yahweh to his multiverse with primum mobile. both lucifer and micheal are beyond the silver city itself and can exist quite independantly, unphased in the void outside creation. while teh spectre and others being are not even allowed inside the silver city. at teh end of the lucifer comics, lucifer's will had gotten so great after destroying predestination and escaping his yahweh, that he was able to see the creation amd absorb the presence and allperceiveable reality of another creation {with himself as a part of it} from beginning till end in a single blink of the eye. myx isnt doing much to lucifer or micheal. nor is the spectar.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
The difference is when Thanos was said to absorb everything, they actually showed Warlock and Death. When Mxy destroyed everything, they didn't show an exception. So if he said everything, we take it as everything, do we not?

they didnt show an exception when reed used the ultimate nullifier or when genis and entropy/apiphany destroyed the universe did they. shud we then beleive that they destroyed all of marvel too?

point being, when it comes to things like these, and the fact that we KNOW that there are beings above universal or even multiversal destruction, then unless the being in question is specifically SHOWN there, dying or being defeated, we shud presume that they are well andok. {the main reason most people wud think that thanos with the heart of infinity was greater than genis/entropy or the ultimate nullifier. as LT was SPECIFICALLY shown there being defeated. ofcourse, he was also shown bowing to the phoenix but thats another hting altogether 😛 }

Originally posted by batdude123
What? That doesn't necessarily mean that Batmite is part of Mxy's power.

It could simply mean that Mxy treats Batmite as if he were nothing more than a dog...

"That all got erased... But you apparently held onto one little bit that I want back"

Followed up with Joker puking up Bat-Mite, certainly leads me to believe Bat-Mite is part of Mxy's power.

Originally posted by Galan007
This statement from Mxy:
"You were never meant to have access to ALL my 5th Dimensional magics, that was MY bad."

"That all got erased... But you apparently held onto one little bit that I want back"

Followed up with Joker puking up Bat-Mite, certainly leads me to believe Bat-Mite is part of Mxy's power.

Having "control over" him doesn't lend me to believe that Batmite is Mxy.

Originally posted by batdude123
Having "control over" him doesn't lend me to believe that Batmite is Mxy.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
they didnt show an exception when reed used the ultimate nullifier or when genis and entropy/apiphany destroyed the universe did they. shud we then beleive that they destroyed all of marvel too?

When Genis and Entropy destroyed and replaced Eternity, that was their goal. When Reed used the UN, his goal was to reset the Multiverse to get rid of Abraxas. Those were their goals. In WF, Mxy's goal was to destroy everything because he was tired of it all. It even shows him jumping to different universes (or multiverses, whatever they were) and destroying them. He even goes on a rant, something like no more this, no more that, no more anything. That's a lot different than what Reed and Genis were trying to do.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's clear as day, really.

I'm not saying you're completely incorrect here, but I feel that from the wording in that page, there's some ambiguity that can be argued.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

LT ... ofcourse, he was also shown bowing to the phoenix
but thats another hting altogether

Why is this a debate?

'Team creates their own Protege ftw' ... 😂