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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. No, Kratos can break from stone, Kratos is strong enough to physically overpower Kain with one hand if he wanted to. And even Kratos has some trouble breaking from it. He would have to pull it out, and barring gameplay it would turn him to stone instantly the moment Kain looked at it. If they start right next to eachother...Well Kratos has too many options.2. Only Kratos is not part of LOK at all so he is not bound by their rules, he is a time God now.
Strength: Kratos without a single friggin doubt. This cannot be argued.
Speed: Well let's see, Kratos can block and reflect lightning. Kain...Well he can't.
Durability: Since Kain has a bit of a healing factor, Kain. Although Kain can be knocked out, and too much damage can harm him, hence why he has to turn to bats and run away when damaged too much.
Power: Kratos easily has more raw power in the Blade of Olympus alone. When Zeus used it, it only had a portion of Zeus' power, now it has the power of Kratos when he was a God. It is over twice as strong, why couldn't Kratos replicate Zeus' feat? He did fight Zeus while he was using the Blade of Olympus afterall.
Reach: Kratos in melee has much more reach, that goes without saying.
Range: Equal.
Versatility: Equal. Kratos can manipulate time, summon the undead with a Hammer, fire blasts from a sword and cause epic tornadoes, can cause mini quakes, can manipulate lightning in the form of traps, fire blasts of wind from a bow and cause little tornadoes, has a spear that can extend and fire blasts, and has the head of a Gorgon which can turn people to stone and shit. He can also increase his power by drawing on the power of the Titans.
Skill: Kratos with ease...Lol
Experience: Well Kain is thousands of years older.
Brutality: ...Yeah. Duh.
1. He couldnt overpower Kain with one hand, hell I wouldnt be surprised if Kain could replicate some of the feats Kratos does with ease since this is non god form Kratos as well. No thats the Medusas head that turns people to stone instantly in lore, ive not seen any mention of Euryales being the same. Name some of those options, since more than half if not all will be ineffective.
2. Hes not a time god, he simply has some of the fate powers and from whats shown can teleport through time using unknown means, either way, as soon as he enters LOK, him entering LOK unvierse iwll be part of that timestream, but since its immutable he will be deleted, what part of that dont you understand? Still as I said, he couldnt do anythng even if he did go back since Kain is still under LOK time rules and Kain cannot be killed.
Strength: Not at all, the guy has strength in his arms but whats he really shown? he throws pillars and things but Kain and Raziel do every other level, remember this is non god kratos.
Speed: Kain, hes far too fast for Kratos to do much of anything.
Durability: still, Kains healing factor combined with the fact youd need to completly brutalise and turn him to mush to get rid of him.
Power: because hes never done any of these feats and we dont know the implications behind it either, Zeus had a lot of things under his control like the sword having the power of the olympians and himself at their prime it seemed, and not to mention, its his sword, he created it, so it makes sense he can use it, either way, kratos has never done anything great with the sword, and nonsense, Kain has far more power, he could just go invulerable and then choose from his bazillions of spells to turn Kratos into food.
Reach: sure
Range: not really, if you take into account their range may be the same overall, Kain has far more ranged attacks to use so Kain.
Versatility: half of them pale in comparison not only in number but also power, Kain wins this easily and Versatility means diffrent things, since half of the attacks you mentioned do similiar styles of combat to eachother then its pointless.
Skill: both the same
the last ones are pointless.
At the end of the day were also forgetting TK. on a whim Kain could just have Kratos floating about the place.
Originally posted by k1Lla441
The only reason it hasnt shown kratos destroying many,many armies is because since he got it, he hasnt FACED any armies. i bet u if he ran into and army while he had it, they would die just as fast. and it makes no sense that a sword works in zeus' hands but not kratos'. its a sword, it works the same no matter who wields it. also, you say that kratos' time controlling abilities arent true, and if they werent, why would mother gaia say he has the power to control time? and dont tell me " he cant control kains life because hes not in lok ". you automatically asume that kratos and kain will be fighting in lok. the thread starter said kratos has all his powers, except go form, and he gets to use them, which IS THE POWER TO CONTROL TIME. so right when the fight starts, kain is pretty much dead because kratos has already deemed his fate as a loss.
As I said to Jaxx, you cant just guess about at the drop of a hat that Kratos can do everything with a weapon created, formed, powered and overall used by Zeus and lets not forget Zeus' relevence as King of the gods means he has diffrent powers to Kratos, Zeus "made" the sword, he would logically be able to use it better than some guy who just picks it up recently.
Having the power to control time could mean a hundred hyperbolic things, the only thing weve seen and actually been told he has is the ability to move through it, thats about it, and thats useless tbh. No you dont automatically assume he starts in LOK, they start on a neutral battlefield but if Kratos wants to enter a timestream of Kains he may go ahead and be dissintegrated.
As i said, Kratos never has the full power of time, he has the power of time travel which is a form of time control, but he cant just freeze time and other made up stuff. Deeming something is pointless, since if you claim youve played GOW 2, the sisters deemed Kratos fate a loss, but we all know what happened there dont we.