Originally posted by quanchi112
Again in this thread there wont be a paradise dimension or a phantom zone imprisonment so its a moot point.
He didnt need it with the phantom zone. He wont need it here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He cant retcon reality by punching air or another character.
But the scans are right there... I thought you could read!? 😱
Pwned.
Illiteracy ftw.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime is a beast but with the teams combined efforts they win and capitalize with the Surfer exploiting Primes weaknesses.
No most get oneshotted. Others get three shotted at best.
Originally posted by Sirius77Again he isnt in the paradise place and he isnt in the phantom zone. cant you read?
He didnt need it with the phantom zone. He wont need it here.But the scans are right there... I thought you could read!? 😱
Pwned.
Illiteracy ftw.
No most get oneshotted. Others get three shotted at best.
Prime gets blasted by red solar energy quickly depowering him while the others dogpile him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again he isnt in the paradise place and he isnt in the phantom zone. cant you read?
Appearently you are illiterate. I should be nice. The phantom zone is three dimensional space. It has height, width, and depth. There is no wall to punch, but yet he punched through thin air into another dimension and retconned bb. I am at a loss to make it any clearer. I've posted the scans that said exactly what I am trying to prove, and explianed it to you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime gets blasted by red solar energy quickly depowering him while the others dogpile him.
Depowering him? He was deprived of sunlight in sc, and had his solar suit ripped off, and then fought a being made of red sun energy. And owned him. Unless surfer can create an actual red sun in less time than it takes Superman-prime to speedblitz three flashes, and then find the strength to push Superman-prime, who pushes planets for fun into the red sun, then he cant do anything remotely resembling what you are talking about.
Originally posted by Sirius77he was in the phantom zone and when he broke free he retconned someone. Post a scan of him retconning someone just by punching him and not being in a prison of some sort.
Appearently you are illiterate. I should be nice. The phantom zone is three dimensional space. It has height, width, and depth. There is no wall to punch, but yet he punched through thin air into another dimension and retconned bb. I am at a loss to make it any clearer. I've posted the scans that said exactly what I am trying to prove, and explianed it to you.Depowering him? He was deprived of sunlight in sc, and had his solar suit ripped off, and then fought a being made of red sun energy. And owned him. Unless surfer can create an actual red sun in less time than it takes Superman-prime to speedblitz three flashes, and then find the strength to push Superman-prime, who pushes planets for fun into the red sun, then he cant do anything remotely resembling what you are talking about.
Which being did he fight that was comprised of red solar energy?
Pushing planets is cool but Surfer can easily destroy planets which is much harder to do than to push something.
Originally posted by quanchi112
he was in the phantom zone and when he broke free he retconned someone. Post a scan of him retconning someone just by punching him and not being in a prison of some sort.
The scan that I posted was more than sufficient.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Which being did he fight that was comprised of red solar energy?
Redstar.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Pushing planets is cool but Surfer can easily destroy planets which is much harder to do than to push something.
So you think that a being that can push planets cant destroy them 😬
Originally posted by Sirius77Nope it was him breaking free of some trap.
The scan that I posted was more than sufficient.Redstar.
So you think that a being that can push planets cant destroy them 😬
Scans? What issue?
No I said pushing a planet is nowhere near as impressive as destroying one. So again why bring up something like that when it carries little weight.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nope it was him breaking free of some trap.
The trap was another dimension 😬
Originally posted by quanchi112
Scans? What issue?
"Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Superman-prime"
Originally posted by quanchi112
No I said pushing a planet is nowhere near as impressive as destroying one. So again why bring up something like that when it carries little weight.
So then if you agree that someone that can push a planet can destroy one, then why say one is better if Superman-prime can do both? Double standard 😬
Originally posted by Sirius77
The phantom zone isnt connected to reality. It's a dimension in itself. Thats why it only affects phantom zone residents. And in the phantom zone, he was just punching air. Even then, the retcon was cross dimensional. From the phantom zone to new earth. He doesnt need something to punch, he was relatively new to his powers at that point, so it was probably like riding a bike with training wheels, he doesnt need the training wheels to ride the bike, because it's possible either way. The same is true with him punching barriers and altering reality. The only difference here is that he was just punching air in the phantom zone.
Yes but the thing is events got retconned due to him breaking out of the phantom zone, not by him being on earth or outerspace punching at nothing or somebody.
Originally posted by Sirius77Yes bu he cant retcon without the trap. Its my whole point.
The trap was another dimension 😬"Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Superman-prime"
So then if you agree that someone that can push a planet can destroy one, then why say one is better if Superman-prime can do both? Double standard 😬
Ok. He isnt defeating surfer this easily though. Plus didnt Prime have his suit on? He has no suit here.
Originally posted by Lord FeronExactly. He only accomplished it due to the circumstances involved.
If SBP could punch say ..."nothing" and change reality that sounds like a brand new power on par with MJJ. Hmmm how can i put this eloquently.... shenanigans! Why bother fighting anyone if he could just change everything with a fist pump on mid air. Blahhh