Originally posted by Dr. Tyrant
I'm sure you can navigate to the Gamora respect thread without much difficulty. I mean...why would Marvel name a knife the "Godslayer" if is hasn't taken out Gods before?
Again, what beings has the Godslayer actually taken out that would make it breaking against Thanos' skin impressive by comparison?
Marvel also named Iron Man "Invincible" but his far from actually invincible.
I haven't actually seen the Godslayer do anything impressive.
It was stated during the Gamora's fight with Ronan during the Annihilation War in the Ronan stand alone limited edition series, I believe it was Ronan #3, that the Godslayer has killed titans and immortals. We may not have seen it happen in continuity, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
The Godslayer is extremely powerful, lets all get over it.
lets say it has killed gods and titans but what power lvl what kinda gods or even aliens for that matter..
example what if the knife simply killed someone like eros or someone as a random lvl asgardian maybe fandral.. how does that mean it can kill any other type of gods with actual powers and reality manipulation..
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
lets say it has killed gods and titans but what power lvl what kinda gods or even aliens for that matter..example what if the knife simply killed someone like eros or someone as a random lvl asgardian maybe fandral.. how does that mean it can kill any other type of gods with actual powers and reality manipulation..
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We can make that assumption because Gamora did not bring it out until she began to see just how truly powerful Ronan had become. She did not initially think him worthy of being killed by a blade such as Godslayer but decided to 'grant him the honor' of being killed by it because he had proved himself worthy of it.
Ronan beat Ravenous, Ravenous killed Air-Walker, Ravenous also fought the Silver Surfer before he had his upgrade. As of the time of the Annihilation War only two people to have ever beaten Ravenous were the Silver Surfer and Ronan. That should give you a judgement of Ronan's approximate power level and assume that it is the minimum or at least close to the minimum that Gamora would pull it out for.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
lets say it has killed gods and titans but what power lvl what kinda gods or even aliens for that matter..example what if the knife simply killed someone like eros or someone as a random lvl asgardian maybe fandral.. how does that mean it can kill any other type of gods with actual powers and reality manipulation..
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Originally posted by Psychopath001
It was stated during the Gamora's fight with Ronan during the Annihilation War in the Ronan stand alone limited edition series, I believe it was Ronan #3, that the Godslayer has killed titans and immortals. We may not have seen it happen in continuity, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.The Godslayer is extremely powerful, lets all get over it.
The only person it's ever failed on is Thanos. In GoG#25, Gamora was astonished that it broke. She says it kills Gods. Now, IIRC, Odin falls well within the "God" category. You'll have to prove that it can't kill him. Otherwise everything from Ronan #3 to GoG #25 indicates it can.
Originally posted by Psychopath001
It was stated during the Gamora's fight with Ronan during the Annihilation War in the Ronan stand alone limited edition series, I believe it was Ronan #3, that the Godslayer has killed gods and titans. We may not have seen it happen in continuity, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.The Godslayer is extremely powerful, lets all get over it.
It happened in Ronan #3 yes. Gamora stated that the Godslayer has pantheons of victims. Among them Gods and Immortals.
Which doesn't actually prove anything. In that very issue, I believe Ronan's fist withstood a slash from the Godslayer.
Extremely powerful? It hasn't actually done anything. Ever. At least as far as I know.
You cannot say it hasn't done anything just because it hasn't done anything within the main continuinity that you have seen.
That's like saying Galactus never ate any planets before the current timeline simply because Marvel comics superheroes didn't discover him until he came to earth.
We all -know- he's been eating planets since the beginning of the universe even it hasn't been featured visually in comics or has its own series.
Fact is, Godslayer has been stated to have killed several powerful beings, and even if we haven't seen it happen, doesn't mean it hasn't. We have to take Marvel's word on it.
it broke on thanos hence and cant kill all types of titans.. which makes her comment of killing gods suspect as well.. anyways do you think that knife would work on a real titan and god? lets say surtur or a Ymir those are real titans..
and Odin is a high end sky father how do we know she can even get him or get past his magic energy fields when he is releasing his powers in battle or better yet what if he goes all abstract giant head omniscient mode which he has the power to do.. will the knife penetrate space and kill Odin in his floating giant head mode,..
a lot of gods dont really have bodies.. other gods have complete control of their atoms..
guys like eros and fandral dont and they are low lvl gods barely mid meta.. with no healing factor
Originally posted by Dr. Tyrant
ThisThe only person it's ever failed on is Thanos. In GoG#25, Gamora was astonished that it broke. She says it kills Gods. Now, IIRC, Odin falls well within the "God" category. You'll have to prove that it can't kill him. Otherwise everything from Ronan #3 to GoG #25 indicates it can.
BANLOL!
That is some astoundingly stupid reasoning.
No one has to prove anything. If you believe that the Godslayer can kill Odin than prove it. Claiming it has killed Gods and then reasoning that it can kill Odin since his a god is asinine.
I'm not proving a negative. It doesn't work that way.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
it broke on thanos hence and cant kill all types of titans.. which makes her comment of killing gods suspect as well.. anyways do you think that knife would work on a real titan and god? lets say surtur or a Ymir those are real titans..and Odin is a high end sky father how do we know she can even god him or get past his magic energy fields when he is releasing his powers in battle or better yet what if he goes all abstract giant head omniscient mode which he has the power to do.. will the knife penetrate space and kill Odin in his floating giant head mode,..
a lot of gods dont really have bodies.. other gods have complete control of their atoms..
guys like eros and fandral dont and they are low lvl gods barely mid meta.. with no healing factor
Well, if it wasn't able to slay Gods than I doubt it'd be called the Godslayer. It obviously has powers that negate all the atom control, and abstract powers etc most Gods have.
All I'm saying is Thanos came back more durable than before. That is clear. If Odin couldn't put Thanos down before he'll have a way tougher time this time around.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusLMFAO. You are incorrect. Doubting the fact that a weapon that's called the "Godslayer" can kill a God is the only thing that's asinine here.
BANLOL!That is some astoundingly stupid reasoning.
No one has to prove anything. If you believe that the Godslayer can kill Odin than prove it. Claiming it has killed Gods and then reasoning that it can kill Odin since his a god is asinine.
I'm not proving a negative. It doesn't work that way.
it broke on thanos hence and cant kill all types of titans.. which makes her comment of killing gods suspect as well.. anyways do you think that knife would work on a real titan and god? lets say surtur or a Ymir those are real titans..and Odin is a high end sky father how do we know she can even god him or get past his magic energy fields when he is releasing his powers in battle or better yet what if he goes all abstract giant head omniscient mode which he has the power to do.. will the knife penetrate space and kill Odin in his floating giant head mode,..
a lot of gods dont really have bodies.. other gods have complete control of their atoms..
guys like eros and fandral dont and they are low lvl gods barely mid meta.. with no healing factor
But we're not arguing about whether or not GAMORA can kill Odin. We're arguing on whether or not the Godslayer is capable of doing it.
The godslayer appears to be designed to kill gods, not Titans. It seems to me we can believe some high-end Titans are capable of not being killed by it, like Thanos. There's no grounds to say any god is capable of defending himself from it.
Originally posted by Psychopath001
You cannot say it hasn't done anything just because it hasn't done anything within the main continuinity that you have seen.That's like saying Galactus never ate any planets before the current timeline simply because Marvel comics superheroes didn't discover him until he came to earth.
We all -know- he's been eating planets since the beginning of the universe even it hasn't been featured visually in comics or has its own series.
Fact is, Godslayer has been stated to have killed several powerful beings, and even if we haven't seen it happen, doesn't mean it hasn't. We have to take Marvel's word on it.
Actually, I can. It hasn't done anything. See?
For all we know, what she means by Gods are some Class 10 to long lived beings who can be killed with a regular knife.
Lol what?
Actually I'm pretty sure we've had flashbacks to Galactus' earliest days where he was consuming planets.
What powerful beings? Generalized terms such as Gods, Titans, Immortals doesn't actually prove anything. At all.
An Asgardian child is considered a god. By your reasoning since she can kill him she can kill Odin.
Originally posted by Dr. Tyrant
LMFAO. You are incorrect. Doubting the fact that a weapon that's called the "Godslayer" can kill a God is the only thing that's asinine here.
Haha.
Using that logic, doubting that an Iron Man called invincible isn't invincible is asinine.
Is it just me or are the members of this board getting stupider?
Do we recruit these guys from preschools or something?
Actually, I can. It hasn't done anything. See?For all we know, what she means by Gods are some Class 10 to long lived beings who can be killed with a regular knife.
Lol what?
Actually I'm pretty sure we've had flashbacks to Galactus' earliest days where he was consuming planets.
What powerful beings? Generalized terms such as Gods, Titans, Immortals doesn't actually prove anything. At all.
An Asgardian child is considered a god. By your reasoning since she can kill him she can kill Odin.
Have you had flashbacks to ALL the planets he ate? Has he therefore only eaten what, five or six planets we've seen in flashbacks? Since the history of his existence, simply because we haven't seen the others?
Plus this isn't Vulcan or some ******* wannabe we're talking about. This is GAMORA. Gamora wouldn't even claim she'd killed it if she didn't consider it something worth killing, a category an asgardian child doesn't fall into.
LMFAO. You are incorrect. Doubting the fact that a weapon that's called the "Godslayer" can kill a God is the only thing that's asinine here.
As much as you're more or less on my side on this one, I have to agree with Rage of Olympus... your argument is pretty invalid.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Haha.Using that logic, doubting that an Iron Man called invincible isn't invincible is asinine.
Is it just me or are the members of this board getting stupider?
Do we recruit these guys from preschools or something?
So Dr. Doom is no longer a Doctor because you decide to say when and where Marvel is correct and incorrect with their own terms? LMFAO.
no a lot of them usually are sock accounts or are very new members and probably come from a particular site where their reasoning is not challenged i wont name the site but we know which one it is..
when i question the member i look at the sign up date and i am never disappointed..
we have a couple from 2008/2009 but they are not so bad as others...
Originally posted by Psychopath001
Have you had flashbacks to ALL the planets he ate? Has he therefore only eaten what, five or six planets we've seen in flashbacks? Since the history of his existence, simply because we haven't seen the others?Plus this isn't Vulcan or some ******* wannabe we're talking about. This is GAMORA. Gamora wouldn't even claim she'd killed it if she didn't consider it something worth killing, a category an asgardian child doesn't fall into.
That's some piss poor analogy your using. It's not as if someone is trying to claim that Galactus beats character X because he ate an X amount of planets. Unlike Gamora Galactus has a long established history of being a Cosmic Entity with impressive on panel feats. No one has to refer to some random claim that he ate said unknown planest as a feat for him.
Again, using the logic that since Gamora's weapon is called the Godslayer, has killed an X amount of unknown Gods, she can kill Odin with her weapon, a character with an established history and is heads and shoulders above almost all Gods, is just ridiculous.
Originally posted by Dr. Tyrant
So Dr. Doom is no longer a Doctor because you decide to say when and where Marvel is correct and incorrect with their own terms? LMFAO.
What. The. ****. Are. You. Talking. About?
Doctor Doom is just that, a title. Your argument is as asinine as someone coming out and claiming that Doctor Doom is a better surgeon than Donald Blake because he has the word "Doctor" in his name.