Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No he's saying during Doom's mission he was stated to be using them throughout it. No such mention was even used in regards to Thanos.Still no proof ODG... still clinging to a desperate hope that you won't look as bad?
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I guess that ever panel should state that a forcefield should be up.
Originally posted by The NuulNo, it's not the same mission. The first two scans are from Secret Wars #1. Doom tried following Galactus to the Beyonder and got slammed back to the planet and then he resorted to fighting the heroes and stuff for a while. The second set of scans are from Secret Wars #7, where Doom tries to sneak on board the Worldship. Different missions.
In the first two scans, Doom is following G and enters his ship. The last scan, it's part of that same mission.
Originally posted by King Castle
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/66/energy8qa2.jpg
here he uses a shield against surfer.uses it to stop a hammer toss from thor.
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9413/energy18bb3.jpgagain keeps a blast of the omega at bay.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5219/energy25iz7.jpgplus when he used them against blood and thunder thor.
Thanos also used them in his final fight with Drax when he was killed by him..
i think it is save to say that more often when his shields are active they are represented and should only be viewed as being on when specifically shown or stated to be.
can we get a mod to stop this argument and move on since its bn already proven and shown repeatedly.
I already had to resort to getting a mod (first time ever) and he already told ODG to stop with this nonsense. I mean really... they are always on during his battles... they are always the same type of shields... oo they weren't drawn or shown or impllied or even mention almost being breach or breached.. I mean really..
This is getting to be too old already. He wasn't using his shields against Odin or Tyrant... Period. Is it possible sure... However, as the Mod has said.. the majority of evidence points to no shields. Period.
his argument is flawed based on the fact that more often then not, not all characters fight to the best of their abilities let alone average showings of their standard powers.
we know superman hardly uses his arctic breath, heat vision, superspeed and his various side powers that he can create by combining certain abilities it doesnt mean superman is using X-ray vision at all times and scanning at superspeed making analytical decisions.
Thanos not raising his shields is no different then him not mindraping, lobotomizing, reality warping, transmuting ppl in every fight he is in.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0As ive said the whole Thanos/Odin fight was apissing contest, see who could take more and niether went all out in the Thanos/Odin fight.
^ So the writer changed the story to make Thanos fight without his shields, but with all-out attacks, allies like the Surfer, experimental weaponry, an outside amp=Tyrant's orb, his body armor... but not his shields?
The whole point of Thanos facing Tyrant was to see if he could with stand Tyrant assualts it was staed several times.
You don't see that exception as particularly conspicuous and unexplained? We just figure out some reason he turned them off or left them off? Why did he turn them off or leave them off when he got sucked into the black hole and mauled? What? Look at the second set of scans I posted. No illustration. Never stated it was on when he got wtfpwned by Galactus. I don't see where it was stated that his forcefield was on.He was in his ship when he got sucked into the black hole and was taken by suprise.
When did you become this narrow minded ODG, its simple in comics if something is used its either shown,indicated or narrated as such in the story or even explained at a later date as to what/how it was used.
Why didnt he have his shields on whn he faced the Doppleganger,Afro Magus, Maker and Walker?
Originally posted by The Nuul... that's exactly the nonsense I'm arguing against. In Secret Wars #1, Doom relies on his forcefields, they are shown and written about... he's using them.
👆 x 10I guess that ever panel should state that a forcefield should be up.
Six issues later in Secret Wars #7, in a dangerous situation, Doom decided to turn them off with no explanation. Because in that issue (since we can't rely on the storyline itself), the forcefields weren't illustrated or narrated.
Really now? In evcery panel, they have to be shown or mentioned, otherwise... they're turned off?
Originally posted by King Castle👆
his argument is flawed based on the fact that more often then not, not all characters fight to the best of their abilities let alone average showings of their standard powers.we know superman hardly uses his arctic breath, heat vision, superspeed and his various side powers that he can create by combining certain abilities it doesnt mean superman is using X-ray vision at all times and scanning at superspeed making analytical decisions.
Thanos not raising his shields is no different then him not mindraping, lobotomizing, reality warping, transmuting ppl in every fight he is in.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
... that's exactly the nonsense I'm arguing against. In Secret Wars #1, Doom relies on his forcefields, they are shown and written about... he's using them.Six issues later in Secret Wars #7, in a dangerous situation, Doom decided to turn them off with no explanation. Because in that issue (since we can't rely on the storyline itself), the forcefields weren't illustrated or narrated.
Really now? In evcery panel, they have to be shown or mentioned, otherwise... they're turned off?
But this is Doom, we are talking about THANOS. Nice try.
Originally posted by NihilistAnd I have named several reasons why that isn't true. Thanos asked for help from Surfer. Thanos attacked him full-on. Thanos kept his body armor on. Thanos got thrown around ignominously (which he would never permit if he could help it).
As ive said the whole Thanos/Odin fight was apissing contest, see who could take more and niether went all out in the Thanos/Odin fight.The whole point of Thanos facing Tyrant was to see if he could with stand Tyrant assualts it was staed several times.
In the Tyrant fight, Thanos desperately reached for Tyrant's orb and blasted him/smacked him several times with it. So not only was he attacking him all-out, wrestling with him and keeping his body armor on, he kept reaching fopr an outside amp. Was he trying to test the orb's might or his own? Obviously his own. His own minus shields? Why the conspicuous omission?
Originally posted by NihilistThanos couldn't turn on his shields you're saying?
He was in his ship when he got sucked into the black hole and was taken by suprise.When did you become this narrow minded ODG, its simple in comics if something is used its either shown,indicated or narrated as such in the story or even explained at a later date as to what/how it was used.
Why didnt he have his shields on whn he faced the Doppleganger,Afro Magus, Maker and Walker?
Because Thanos uses shields a lot. He was in serious fights. I have never once confronted the argument that he turned them off off-panel for those fights.
^ His ruling was proof. I'm offering you character propensity as proof against it. You're suggesting that Thanos and Doom, among others, look like idiots shutting off, or keeping off their forcefields when they could definitely have used them. For the sake of... what? A body armor durability feat that requires they deactivated their forcefield off-panel? I'm positing to you, that with their personalities, with their knowledge, with the situations they were in, it's not likely they would be so careless or foolish. And because they're not so careless or foolish, this is an instance where the forcefield is simply not drawn or narrated.
Originally posted by The NuulThat's your answer? Really? After all this talk about how if they're not illustrated or mentioned in that specific issue, you can't assume he used them. Which necessarily means that he was stupid and deactivated them off-panel.
But this is Doom, we are talking about THANOS. Nice try.
Doom surviving getting thrown violently from the Worldship is now a pure armor durability feat that also shows how retarded Doom is to turn off his forcefields on a dangerous mission?
In the same way, Thanos' fights with Tyrant and Odin was a pure armor durability feat that also shows how retarded Thanos is to deactivate his shields off-panel right before heading into two dangerous fights?
This is an illustration of why this reasoning requires you to conclude the absurd. The decension into absurdity should reveal to you why we should not ignore character propensity at the expense of the character's personality... just to aggrandize a single (or two) durability feat(s).
Originally posted by The NuulIt's speculation that Thanos and Doom decided to turn retard and eschew all shielding for no reason whatsoever. That's an absurd precondition to assuming that Thanos/Doom off-panel, turned off or kept off their forcefields (which they use so often).
No proof but speculation for CIS. Its a desperate move.
What's the next argument going to be? That whenever Thanos fights people in the range of DP Tyrant and Odin, he refuses to use his shields inexplicably? But against lower-end foes like PG Champion and PG Thor and higher-end foes like well-fed Galactus and Omega he does use them? It's baffling.
