Teens Against Pornography

I don't understand why anybody is against pornography.

If one doesn't like porno, don't watch it.

If the people consent to doing it......and those who like porn (myself) consent to watching it, I don't see what business it is of anyone else.

that's like people not liking CSI Miami. Sure, I don't like it........so I don't watch it. I don't campaign against it to keep other people from enjoying it. If the actors want to act and the viewers want to view.......I couldn't care less. It's not like I'm being forced to watch it.

While I agree with your train of thought, I think the general consensus for those that oppose porn is "it harms society and lowers women".

But both of those thoughts are effectively nullified by:

1) People aren't forced to watch porn.
2) The women are doing it willfully and making a living.

Originally posted by Robtard
While I agree with your train of thought, I think the general consensus for those that oppose porn is "it harms society and lowers women".

But both of those thoughts are effectively nullified by:

1) People aren't forced to watch porn.
2) The women are doing it willfully and making a living.

Yet, does it not still show that women are being objectified by a patriarchal society? Just because it goes on behind closed doors doesn't mean it should be permissible.

Please note I am NOT saying that we should abolish pornos...simply putting forward an alternative viewpoint.

pornography is most adverts on tele

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav

I dunno bout this whole "hell" thing you point out though. Again, as a Catholic from Scotland I have never been around the Evangelicals of America so I don't know how they preach- however, I don't think that "Porn is a sin and you'll go to hell for watching it" is an argument God would approve of, when it comes to educating Children. It is certainly not one I was ever given...in fact, I wasn't really told much about hell...

American evangelicals tend to avoid all context of scripture and go straight for the Hell thing.

Most of them I have gotten to talk to one on one don't know much about Hell either but it doesn't stop them from blindly saying whatever they were told to say.

Originally posted by chithappens
American evangelicals tend to avoid all context of scripture and go straight for the Hell thing.

Most of them I have gotten to talk to one on one don't know much about Hell either but it doesn't stop them from blindly saying whatever they were told to say.

Well, it can be an effective way of intimidating people into believing what you tell them.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Yet, does it not still show that women are being objectified by a patriarchal society? Just because it goes on behind closed doors doesn't mean it should be permissible.

It doesn't, society isn't pressing women into porn, and considering the camera I'd hardly call it "behind closed doors".

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Yet, does it not still show that women are being objectified by a patriarchal society? Just because it goes on behind closed doors doesn't mean it should be permissible.

Please note I am NOT saying that we should abolish pornos...simply putting forward an alternative viewpoint.

Depends on the porn really, some porn is purely homosexual-male and some porn has the female in control of the male partner, neither of those would be male over female dominant, as examples.

Of course not, but what separates porn from say rape, murder or torture in the "anything goes behind closed doors" stance, is that porn isn't harming anyone that doesn't want to be harmed.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It doesn't, society isn't pressing women into porn, and considering the camera I'd hardly call it "behind closed doors".

Well, in the sense that its private and not in the public view- only being watched by those who want to watch it.

It may not be harming then directly, but is it not robbing them of dignity?

Dignity is subjective, and they're not being forced to do it. If so, then it should be illegal.

Would you have the same feelings for someone that had a job where they cleaned other peoples shit and garbage all day long (some people would find that insulting)? Would they be robbed of their dignity and therefore that job should be outlawed?

Originally posted by Robtard
Dignity is subjective, and they're not being forced to do it. If so, then it should be illegal.

Would you have the same feelings for someone that had a job where they cleaned other peoples shit and garbage all day long (some people would find that insulting)? Would they be robbed of their dignity and therefore that job should be outlawed?

Well, if you mean the people who live in the dumping ghettos of Egpyt cleaning the waste...then I'd say yes those jobs should be outlawed.

However, there is no shame in being a cleaner...in the street or office.

Yet, I think pornography is a different thing, its not exactly something where dignity can be found...I dont feel strongly enough on the issue however, as I said...

Not sure what that is, but if people are being forced (that is a the key word) or if the conditions are unsafe, I can see why you'd be against it. But on the latter, the job shouldn't be done away with, just reformed where the conditions are safe.

As there is no shame in being a porn star, people want to do it, they often get paid well for doing it, it's their choice.

As far as you thinking porn performers have no dignity, watch the AVN awards, they seem to love their job. Do you think someone would give a thank you speach and be smiling after winning "best anal sex scene" or "performer of the year" if they thought the job lowered them?

i guess if kids were addicted to porn and didnt want to be then this sort of thing would be beneficial. if not...LOL

Not sure there is a "porn addiction", but if so, alcohol is far more harmful to the addict and it's legal.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure there is a "porn addiction", but if so, alcohol is far more harmful to the addict and it's legal.

anything which gives immediate gratification and pleasure can be addictive

So in theory, one could be addicted to defecating?

Originally posted by Robtard
So in theory, one could be addicted to defecating?

perhaps. one might be so obsessed with defecating that they may overendulge themselves...maybe o.d. on fiber tablets and explode their colon...anything's possible.

plus i know you were going for the 'how can natural functions, however pleasurable, be addictive' angle...probably the first thought was 'eating', but then you stopped and thought of all the fat ****s you encounter when out and about.

No, I just wanted to make a shit reference and see if by some poop-magic Bardock suddenly appears in the thread. B?

There are food and sex addictions, not sure about shit and breathing though. So I'm split.

i dont know about you...but i dont get any pleasure from just breathing. i mean it sucks to not be able to breath, but who sits around and goes "omg this oxygen is some good shit"

While I feel your sentiment, the existance of Oxygen Bars leads me to believe there are indeed such people.