Would you consider Barack Obama the first black president?

Started by demon-lllama14 pages

So Far

Originally posted by KidRock
I am genuinely interested in peoples thoughts about this, especially when I hear people say, "he will be the countries first African American president".

Would he not be the countries first mixed-race president? I think in its own right thats more of an accomplishment then had he been 100% black.

So far, I consider him the 1st mixed-race president with black.

Race is European, Asian, Eurasian, African, and so on.

Color is black, white.. tan, red, and yellow. Indians, the tribal people, come in blond and white.., in European clothing and tribal clothing. Sorry, I don't have my references together, yet, though. 😮

Originally posted by ESB -1138

So, is the flat out lie furthered by this picture intentional or a matter of parody?

Because he has a plan for health care, he supports gay marriage and has even chastised the black community for it's irrational disdain for gays, doesn't support a military strike on Iran for no good reason, supports Israel (despite my wish that this country NOT support Israel to our own detriment) and not much of this being reflective of the same old direction.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
All that did was imply that you're dumber than you seem...
It implies that I'm not dumb, being dumber than I seem wouldn't necissarily be dumb, just dumb in comparison.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I could once last orders have been called and no shops are open. Anyway, that's not what I buy it for and it's dick heads trying to charge me ridiculous prices that I want rid of. I'm not into selling things to my friends for a profit, because they're my friends.
it doesnt take a ridiculous price to get your money back you can still set the price lower than the so called standard price. and you don't have to even charge your good 'friends' the same price, but if you are dealing with someone who is more of an associate than a friend then you can make your moneyback pretty easily while still not even charging as much as the so called 'market' price. it's not a 'dick head' thing to do if they want the wholesale price they can go buy in whole sale quantity.

Originally posted by lord xyz
It implies that I'm not dumb, being dumber than I seem wouldn't necissarily be dumb, just dumb in comparison.

Yeah, well....you do seem dumb though.

And you are.

Re: So Far

Originally posted by demon-lllama
So far, I consider him the 1st mixed-race president with black.

Race is European, Asian, Eurasian, African, and so on.

Color is black, white.. tan, red, and yellow. Indians, the tribal people, come in blond and white.., in European clothing and tribal clothing. Sorry, I don't have my references together, yet, though. 😮

Any minority that claims to be COMPLETELY of their race is likely wrong (not as true for white U.S. citizens).

This completely depends on what you mean by "black."

Close Call

Originally posted by chithappens
Any minority that claims to be COMPLETELY of their race is likely wrong (not as true for white U.S. citizens).

This completely depends on what you mean by "black."

It's funny because you see people who are 1/4 Spanish 1/2 Black "1/4 White." Some have the blonder hair, and you can't call them Black.

I think we have to call Obama the 1st Black president because we call Africans who may have had black skin that now looks pale, black, still.

What if he was the first non-European president. No one expects an Asian or 1/2 Asian president.

Still, that's like saying, that only whites who look ugly on a bad day are White. Can you see the look on someone's face if they are 1/2 some country that they do mistake for Asian/African/tribal European.. when you can term them black simply because their skin though white has dark orange tan? Hair may be light brown??

I'm one of those Chics fascinated with Euro, though, but Obama is obviously European since he lived with his mother.

...Further, yea, I would agree that I am worried a bit for what people think who are like Obama at the time. Usually, friends leave you when they think maybe you're not good racially, unfortunately.. I wonder what it looks like seeing Hilary leave. I wonder if she was just uncomfortable, yet, Obama is still in the right. I'm not sure if that's okay. To see it happen as the presidential candidates is pretty scary. The nation isn't very supportive to begin with, and times looked that bad from afar.

I noticed some people complained about my posts. I hope I don't sound like an egg-head. I wouldn't ever insult anyone without helping them.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, well....you do seem dumb though.

And you are.

**** you, I owned you.

Originally posted by lord xyz
**** you, I owned you.

Hahahahahahahhahahahahaha

I think you are the most unintentionally funny idiot I know.

Originally posted by lord xyz
**** you, I owned you.

? In effect, he would legislate a 60 percent tax bracket for upper-income Americans, killing all initiative and innovation. He?d raise the top bracket to 40 percent. He?d apply FICA taxes to all income, not just that under $100,000 as at present. So add 40 percent plus FICA?s 12.5 percent plus Medicare?s 2 percent plus state and local taxes averaging, after deduction, at 5-6 percent, and you have a 60 percent bracket.

? He would double the capital gains tax, saddling the 50 percent of Americans who own stock with dramatically higher taxes.

? He?d double the dividend tax, hitting elderly coupon-clippers now retired and depending on fixed incomes.

? He wants to cover 12 million illegal immigrants with federally subsidized health insurance, dramatically driving up costs and forcing federal rationing of healthcare. As in the U.K. and Canada, you will not be permitted certain medical procedures if the bureaucrats decide you are not worth it.

? He proposes requiring Homeland Security operatives to notify terror suspects that they are under investigation within seven days of starting the investigation

? In effect, he would legislate a 60 percent tax bracket for upper-income Americans, killing all initiative and innovation. He?d raise the top bracket to 40 percent. He?d apply FICA taxes to all income, not just that under $100,000 as at present. So add 40 percent plus FICA?s 12.5 percent plus Medicare?s 2 percent plus state and local taxes averaging, after deduction, at 5-6 percent, and you have a 60 percent bracket.

Wooot CHANGE!!!! I cant wait!

The more lies the haters spew the more powerful Obama's campaign gets. 12 points of advantage over McBush baby!

Originally posted by Francisco
The more lies the haters spew the more powerful Obama's campaign gets. 12 points of advantage over McBush baby!

Yeah, screw another Bush.

I am ready for Jimmy Carter 2.0!

Bigger spending, Bigger deficit, BIGGER fail!

Originally posted by KidRock
As in... Canada, you will not be permitted certain medical procedures if the bureaucrats decide you are not worth it.

please elaborate

Originally posted by KidRock
Yeah, screw another Bush.

I am ready for Jimmy Carter 2.0!

Bigger spending, Bigger deficit, BIGGER fail!

Bigger failure that GWB? I don't think that's possible. 😆 Keep repeating your hatefilled mantra if it makes you feel better. By the way where's Osama? Do you remember him? The guy who planned 911. After 7 years we haven't been able to get him. While he's laughing of us hiding in some cave and sending out video tapes calling us names we're wasting life and resource s in a war that should've never take place.

Originally posted by inimalist
please elaborate
He can't because he's talking off his ass.. As usual. 😆

Originally posted by Francisco
He can't because he's talking off his ass.. As usual. 😆

"More than 150 critically ill Canadians – many with life-threatening cerebral hemorrhages – have been rushed to the United States since the spring of 2006 because they could not obtain intensive-care beds here.

Before patients with bleeding in or outside the brain have been whisked through U.S. operating-room doors, some have languished for as long as eight hours in Canadian emergency wards while health-care workers scrambled to locate care."

Nice, waiting 8 hours dieing in an emergency room lobby due to a brain hemorrhage because your hospital is overcrowded.

Originally posted by Francisco
Bigger failure that GWB? I don't think that's possible. 😆 Keep repeating your hatefilled mantra if it makes you feel better. By the way where's Osama? Do you remember him? The guy who planned 911. After 7 years we haven't been able to get him. While he's laughing of us hiding in some cave and sending out video tapes calling us names we're wasting life and resource s in a war that should've never take place.

Yes, your homeboy Obama will end the pointless war in Iraq...and take us right into Pakistan.

Originally posted by KidRock
"More than 150 critically ill Canadians – many with life-threatening cerebral hemorrhages – have been rushed to the United States since the spring of 2006 because they could not obtain intensive-care beds here.

Before patients with bleeding in or outside the brain have been whisked through U.S. operating-room doors, some have languished for as long as eight hours in Canadian emergency wards while health-care workers scrambled to locate care."

Nice, waiting 8 hours dieing in an emergency room lobby due to a brain hemorrhage because your hospital is overcrowded.

source?

and, overcrowding is much different than "not be[ing] permitted certain medical procedures if the bureaucrats decide you are not worth it."

I'd also, tongue in cheek of course, ask you to look up the number of Americans who come to Canada for medical help, or to look up the average socio-economic status of Canadians who venture to America for medical care.

Also, just because there are less doctors available says nothing about how well they prioritize people. A hemmorage, inside or outside of the head, is not as life threatening as other issues. Having the experience of going to a Canadian ER (which I'm sure you have, eh?), its pretty obvious that if you came in with a life threatening injury, you would be treated right away. The complaint that wait times for cancer screening causes needless deaths is probably reasonable, certainly not that people with serious injuries are being left to die in ERs.

Which actually happens to poor people in the states without medical coverage.

Originally posted by KidRock
"More than 150 critically ill Canadians – many with life-threatening cerebral hemorrhages – have been rushed to the United States since the spring of 2006 because they could not obtain intensive-care beds here.

Before patients with bleeding in or outside the brain have been whisked through U.S. operating-room doors, some have languished for as long as eight hours in Canadian emergency wards while health-care workers scrambled to locate care."

Nice, waiting 8 hours dieing in an emergency room lobby due to a brain hemorrhage because your hospital is overcrowded.

Yeah that's as sad as the american citizens having to travel to Canada and Mexico so they can buy their medicine if they don't want to die.

Originally posted by KidRock
Yes, your homeboy Obama will end the pointless war in Iraq...and take us right into Pakistan. [/B]
My "homeboy" Obama would have to deal with the pointless Iraq war because your dumb ass Bush started in the first place. The action has been always in Pakistan the thing is Iraq's oil was so much of a temptation for the power hungry whores at the white house (yeah Cheney I'm talking about you)

Originally posted by inimalist
source?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080119.neuro191/BNStory/specialScienceandHealth/home

Originally posted by inimalist

I'd also, tongue in cheek of course, ask you to look up the number of Americans who come to Canada for medical help, or to look up the average socio-economic status of Canadians who venture to America for medical care.

I cant see too many people going to Canada for health care, or better yet can't see why they would. You have ministers and members of parliament coming to America for health care..shows how much faith they put in the quality of it up there.

Although oddly enough I have heard of Transsexuals going to Canada to receive sex change operations.

Originally posted by inimalist

A hemmorage, inside or outside of the head, is not as life threatening as other issues.

Lol..really? Barring someone running into the ER on fire I would assume someones brain bleeding would be quite life threatening, but I am not doctor.

I would say when you're waiting 22 months for an MRI, which could detect a brain tumor, is quite dangerous.