Originally posted by Battlehammer
No that was shingan not simply the hand ( however you spell it) the issue is from 1982. And Logan got poison and then had a massive fight.
How do you know it was Shingen he didn't say he did it. I know the hand were doing his dirty work.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
it pritty illogical that an injured punisher stands a chances vs wolverine.................
Er an injured Punisher managed to breifly hold off Wolverine, so its not illogical to think that he can beat him at full health.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
How do you know it was Shingen he didn't say he did it. I know the hand were doing his dirty work.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Er an injured Punisher managed to breifly hold off Wolverine, so its not illogical to think that he can beat him at full health.
Logan is superior in every aspect.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
.............what do you mean? He fought shingen right after he was poison.........the poison did not KO him.............
Wolverine says "when I finally wake."
Originally posted by Battlehammer
no it really is illogicalLogan is superior in every aspect.
Tough. Hes done well against him and he wasn't even Einnis that proves my point thats hes not always that skilled because he has a habit of just diving into people and trying to cut them up.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Even with one week of prep. I still give it to Sabretooth. I don't see what Frank can do to keep him down or hurt him bad enough to stop him. Sabretooth is fast enough to dodge any range attack coming from the Punisher. And he can rip trough him with one powerful swing.
Hes shot Sabretooth before, he could have shot him on another ocassion but Spiderman was in the way.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Wolverine says "when I finally wake."
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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
ough. Hes done well against him and he wasn't even Einnis that proves my point thats hes not always that skilled because he has a habit of just diving into people and trying tocut them up.
nor does this fight help prove that. Logan disabled the weapon. Punisher still used a gun that was badly injured.............which no one of his military experiences would have tried.............and the fight was stopped............if it was not punisher would be dead and Logan did not even know it was punisher he though it was some random guy, so it not unlikly that he underestimated the skill of his opponet.
but no Punisher not ebating wolverine period.
he weaker,not as agile, not as fast, not as trained, not as experienced, not as skilled, not as much stamina, not as durable, no healing factor, not as quick. He out classed in every aspect. He not beating wolverine one on one with out a good deal of prep.
Originally posted by MarvelknightHave you read the ridiculous weaponry that Castle's been accessing over in Punisher War Journal since he partnered with Stu Clark? Satan Claw, revolving rocket launcher, symbiote suit, etc. Stu Clarke actually used to run around with an exo-suit that gave him super strength and durability. Who says he couldn't make another for Castle? I will admit that since the environment is the entire city, he won't be able to control the environment completely and that might work to Sabe's advantage. But I can see Punisher drawing Sabretooth where he wants him half the time. He's definitely got an unfair advantage considering the weaponry he has access to.
Even with one week of prep. I still give it to Sabretooth. I don't see what Frank can do to keep him down or hurt him bad enough to stop him. Sabretooth is fast enough to dodge any range attack coming from the Punisher. And he can rip trough him with one powerful swing.
The Satan Claw let him pummel Rhino. The revolving rocket launcher tore through Rhino's exosuit. I mean, look what the symbiote suit stood up to... a double slash that broke both of Mung's swords. Damn thing even grew weapons out of itself:
http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/punisherwarjournalprev/PunisherWarJournal12Preview6.jpg
http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/punisherwarjournalprev/PunisherWarJournal12Preview7.jpg
Punisher 7/10. This isn't a curbstomp, Sabes is underrated. But seriously. The odds are stacked in Castle's favor here.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
shit it did nock him out for a little bit.
There you go.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Though why do you assume it was hand ninjas? That was never stated nor shown.
Common sense. Who the hell do you think it was the national guard? Shingen doesn't skulk around in the shadow thats beneath him he employs the hand to do his dirty work.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
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Not really.nor does this fight help prove that. Logan disabled the weapon. Punisher still used a gun that was badly injured.............which no one of his military experiences would have tried.............and the fight was stopped............if it was not punisher would be dead and Logan did not even know it was punisher he though it was some random guy, so it not unlikly that he underestimated the skill of his opponet.
but no Punisher not ebating wolverine period.
he weaker,not as agile, not as fast, not as trained, not as experienced, not as skilled, not as much stamina, not as durable, no healing factor, not as quick. He out classed in every aspect. He not beating wolverine one on one with out a good deal of prep.
Oh for god sake here come the excuses. I don't give a damn. If its Einnis, you complain that its Einnis, if its not Einnis its PIS. Clearly Wolverine is not always as skilled as you might think. Its like ive been saying he can be sloppy.
If he doesn't even know who he is it could damn well be argued he would be more cautious he did actually manage to drop him after all.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The odds are stacked in Castle's favor here.
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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Have you read the ridiculous weaponry that Castle's been accessing over in Punisher War Journal since he partnered with Stu Clark? Satan Claw, revolving rocket launcher, symbiote suit, etc. Stu Clarke actually used to run around with an exo-suit that gave him super strength and durability. Who says he couldn't make another for Castle? I will admit that since the environment is the entire city, he won't be able to control the environment completely and that might work to Sabe's advantage. But I can see Punisher drawing Sabretooth where he wants him half the time. He's definitely got an unfair advantage considering the weaponry he has access to.The Satan Claw let him pummel Rhino. The revolving rocket launcher tore through Rhino's exosuit. I mean, look what the symbiote suit stood up to... a double slash that broke both of Mung's swords. Damn thing even grew weapons out of itself:
http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/punisherwarjournalprev/PunisherWarJournal12Preview6.jpg
http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/punisherwarjournalprev/PunisherWarJournal12Preview7.jpgPunisher 7/10. This isn't a curbstomp, Sabes is underrated. But seriously. The odds are stacked in Castle's favor here.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
There you go.Common sense. Who the hell do you think it was the national guard? Shingen doesn't skulk around in the shadow thats beneath him he employs the hand to do his dirty work.
Wolverine attacker was not in the shadow………he was behind a wall of paper ( whatever those curtain wall things are) and it far from beneath a man who hits woman and poisons there adversaries.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Oh for god sake here come the excuses. I don't give a damn. If its Einnis, you complain that its Einnis, if its not Einnis its PIS. Clearly Wolverine is not always as skilled as you might think. Its like ive been saying he can be sloppy.
Every character has there low showings. Not saying it pis. I am saying that punisher who inferior to wolverine can not beat him in a non prep one on one conflicted.
Wolverine has gotten the better of hulk…………does not mean he can beat the hulk one on one.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
If he doesn't even know who he is it could damn well be argued he would be more cautious he did actually manage to drop him after all.
No it really can’t be argued like that sinces Logan has really nothing to fear from a meager poacher which is what wolverine though punisher was……….
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Some alien guy. It picked up a car tore it half and threw it. Doesn't mean that the alien is as powerful as Sabretooth but Stu Clark made that suit in 15mins whats he gonna get in a week.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
No I think it was shingen…………which would make complete senses sinces he shown right after he wakes up and the hands not shown……………..Wolverine attacker was not in the shadow………he was behind a wall of paper ( whatever those curtain wall things are) and it far from beneath a man who hits woman and poisons there adversaries.
Lol its not logical you just want it to be. Shingen is an arrogant son of a b*tch he didn't even want to fight he with a proper sword, so hes going to go out of his way to hit him with throwing stars and carry him.
Read the series again The Hand did Shingens dirty work its not his style to go around skulking in the shadows.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Every character has there low showings. Not saying it pis. I am saying that punisher who inferior to wolverine can not beat him in a non prep one on one conflicted.Wolverine has gotten the better of hulk…………does not mean he can beat the hulk one on one.
Lol bot Wolverine can actually beat The Hulk right, so if he did manage to beat him in an issue its not PIS and therefore not crap writing.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
No he did not………….he manage to shot wolverine whoopy for him……..he would have died if the fight went on.
Dropped = on the floor not neccesarily Koed
Originally posted by Battlehammer
No it really can’t be argued like that sinces Logan has really nothing to fear from a meager poacher which is what wolverine though punisher was……….
Poachers are not skilled at marksmanship to hit him cllenaly in the lag like that Wolverine would have know it was a skilled marksman at least. What happened to Wolverines enhanced senses?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I don't recall him saying it only took 15 minuts..............and he blow up his work shop...........
The comic said 15 mins later. 😐 He made that suit from very little resources considering he was able to steal a whole load of SHEILD tech in short time (4days) I don't think it matters.
I also think that Stu has the War Machine armour not sure though. 😄
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Some alien guy. It picked up a car tore it half and threw it. Doesn't mean that the alien is as powerful as Sabretooth but Stu Clark made that suit in 15mins whats he gonna get in a week.
I guest you're right. Sabretooth still has a chance to take this if something gos wrong with Punisher's plan.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Lol its not logical you just want it to be. Shingen is an arrogant son of a b*tch he didn't even want to fight he with a proper sword, so hes going to go out of his way to hit him with throwing stars and carry him.
Actually he would go out of his way………..he purposely poisoned Logan…………and Logan was not moved……..he woke up in the room he was poisoned in……
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Read the series again The Hand did Shingens dirty work its not his style to go around skulking in the shadows.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Lol bot Wolverine can actually beat The Hulk right, so if he did manage to beat him in an issue its not PIS and therefore not crap writing.
……..no it rather would be pis……….Wolverine has a fighter shot…………which means he could get very lucky and some how win, but really that never gunna happen………that’s the same thing with punisher vs wolverine. If punisher got really luck he could win but really that just not gunna happen.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Dropped = on the floor not neccesarily Koed
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Prove it.
Originally posted by Phantom ZonePoachers are not skilled at marksmanship to hit him cllenaly in the lag like that Wolverine would have know it was a skilled marksman at least. What happened to Wolverines enhanced senses?
He was focussed on other people and thought punisher was dead from the earlier conflicted..........
