Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats what any sane person would deduce however if you've been to debates with jinzin if Wolverine sustains any damage then its all over Wolverine isnt at 100 percent. I think Trackz questions are very good but maybe we should take this discussion to a Vs thread.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=311710&pagenumber=133
Personally I would like jinzin to answer the question though.
Well Ize just answered it.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Again thats a sensible answer however all we hear all day long on the vs forum is Wolverines HF isnt 100 percent because something happened before that.
It's only sensible to YOU because you have no idea what you're talking about.... and we talk about something happening "before that" because it usually did.
When you're using examples of Wolverine being put down by 1 or 2 class 100 punches in several fights to pretend that this is some standard of Wolverine's performance but ignoring that Wolverine before being rendered unconscious in those fights had to heal from: Being burned to a skeleton, having his head nearly cut off and bleeding out through major arteries for minutes before anyone came to help him, or having a hole punched through him the size of a Lady Deathstrike hand.... Then you're readily ignoring what Wolverine's HF has already been subjected to (with no time to eat, rest, replenish etc in between)..... Of course we could just call PIS on those moments because they ARE outside the status qua, BUT because most of us actually CARE about context we choose to tell you bafoons WHY the example's are skewed in the first place rather than simply writing them off.
Again... you use skewed examples, you ignore why they're skewed and indeed don't even consider them to be skewed and then whine about it when the context is explained back to you... it's rather ridiculous protocall.
Look, I understand you have your agenda, and I get that you hate hate HATE Wolverine and his fans but when is this crap going to stop huh?
Your constant attempts to discredit Logan or argue him being below what he is, are nothing but a joke anymore and it's certainly not getting any better for you.
When we've got you guys telling us you're not ignorant about the character but asking for examples of him being taxed out....... SERIOUSLY?
It's like you never read a Wolverine/X-men comic in your life. Which in your case, STILL, Alfeim would not surprise me in the least.
Now I see that this is all just some grudge you have and especially due to the Wolverine Cap fight in Origins, but you need to get it through your thick skull.... either it was Wolverine being sleep deprived and malnurished as was made a plot point MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE STORY... and directly proven by the same writer, using the same artist in the same half dozen issues...... OR.............. that Wolverine was unable to heal his forearms for 3 minutes was an utter load of PIS. Your pick, though I know you'll readily ignore that choice as well as if there was some other option to better serve your insane unending agenda... It's what you've done afterall.... for the last 4 years.
Now when it comes down to it, Wolverine's HF has been proven to need hydration and food to work at optimum levels, he's stated that he has phantom pains, that healing wounds hurts just as much as being wounded, he's stated that he even needs to meditate in some cases to help parts of his body recover that have already healed days to weeks after the damage was done, and at the end of the day.... THAT. HE. GETS. TAXED. OUT.
And that's really the debacle here.. If he didn't get taxed out, if he never became hindered by previously mounted damage.... if healing previously created wounds meant nothing for newly inflicted wounds.... He would never get taxed out, never reference it, and indeed he would be far far far more difficult to immobilize as nothing would ever wear him down... which is how his entire roagues gallery tends to try and beat him. 😐
This whole misconception that you knitwits decided to start supporting about previous damage not inflicting his healing factor to any serious degree goes against so many facts, statements, feats, proof and COMMON KNOWLEDGE that it almost sickens me this many people have even bothered to address the issue.
Wolverine 73 is an injoke to Wolverine's overuse throughout the Marvel Universe and it should be obvious. As you often say not every writer thinks so in depth about using Wolverine in their stories, there's not even the consideration of what he's doing in other books and with the exception of a couple tie-in issues, Wolverine Origins is a perfect example of this point. And if we're going to take 73 completely seriously (I.e. Wolverine looking to be having some extensive fight with Juggernaught)..... then YES Wolverine's healing factor is quite hindered.
