Originally posted by fangirl101
Show me surfer sending a being like dd who resist powers thru time.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Didn't it take Superman and Waverider to do that to DD?
Originally posted by fangirl101
And can surfer bend time all the way to the beginning to entropy?
Originally posted by fangirl101
wave rider as I said is clearly above everyone that is not a God in time powers.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Plus he had amped superman to help him.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Show me DD resisting being sent through time...No actually all it took was the time travel device that Superman had. All they had to do was put it on him...
Why does he have to send him all the way to entropy? If he sends DD to the day after tomorrow it's still a bfr.
Except that Waverider's powers had nothing to do with it, it was Supes's armband.
Yeah... help put the armband on DD
And surfer can do everything the most advanced tech in the cosmos can? He'll get a feed back the same as waverider.
Originally posted by fangirl101
And surfer can do everything the most advanced tech in the cosmos can? He'll get a feed back the same as waverider.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Are you sure Waverider actually tried to BFR DD because I don't remember that happening(but I guess I could be mistaken)?
My bad. Wasn't a temporal BFR. But it does prove time-based powers can be countered.
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And that armband was modified by a motherbox.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
My bad. Wasn't a temporal BFR. But it does prove time-based powers can be countered.http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/18-2.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/19-1.jpgAnd that armband was modified by a motherbox.
And all the MB did was reprogram the armband's destination to the end of time.
Barring BFR, I would say that Team 1 wins. Whatever they throw at H/P Doomsday, he could theoretically absorb and become immune. That could include the Power Cosmic and WWH's gamma radiation. Although WWH could theoretically increase in strength infinitely, the best that would do is provide a stalemate. Unless Surfer could replicate an entropic blast (a la Imperiex killing H/P Doomsday), then I don't think they can ever win. And I'm pretty sure Surfer never used an entropic blast.
With BFR, Surfer could teleport his form to any place or to any time. He's not immune to normal teleportation and he's not immune to time travel.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Although WWH could theoretically increase in strength infinitely, the best that would do is provide a stalemate.
i've always thought that Hulks' infinite strength was a crock of bull.
how is anger infinite? in the sense you remain enraged, that's feasible but, becoming angrier and angrier thus becoming infinitely stronger? that's just illogical and it's bad writing.
Originally posted by geshienIt's not like he needs to have infinite anger to approach infinite levels of strength. The anger of finding out that he got betrayed by Miek amped his strength exponentially to the point where if he took a single step, he would have broke the entire planet. And this was a Hulk who was trying to hold his anger and strength in check in order to save everyone. Who knows what would happen if he got more angry then that and was not holding back? He'd probably destroy the planet by standing there as the waves of power literally break the planet to pieces.
i've always thought that Hulks' infinite strength was a crock of bull.how is anger infinite? in the sense you remain enraged, that's feasible but, becoming angrier and angrier thus becoming infinitely stronger? that's just illogical and it's bad writing.
" Unless Surfer could replicate an entropic blast (a la Imperiex killing H/P Doomsday), then I don't think they can ever win. And I'm pretty sure Surfer never used an entropic blast."
....................He can't do it. No standard energy manipulator can. Entropy is a rare power even in DC. There is no possible way he will ever be able to wield entropy, even if it was right in front him.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
" Unless Surfer could replicate an entropic blast (a la Imperiex killing H/P Doomsday), then I don't think they can ever win. And I'm pretty sure Surfer never used an entropic blast."....................He can't do it. No standard energy manipulator can. Entropy is a rare power even in DC. There is no possible way he will ever be able to wield entropy, even if it was right in front him.
Originally posted by darthgoober
IDK, Surfer DID manage to channel the energies of the Crunch so I think there's a chance he could manipulate Entropy if it was right in front of him. That's not to say that he could replicate the energy at will or that manipulating would in any way be easy, but Surfer is far from the "standard energy manipulator" and I think he's got a pretty good shot at being able to work with it.
Despite a certain similarity, Entropy is by the worse energy and cannot be manipulated the way Surfer did the crunch.
Entropy is the end of existence in DC. It's located at the end of time, where the Time Trapper is. It destroys everything it touches and tears through everything, even abstracts.
Even a major A-list guy like Elemental Firestorm or Galactus couldn't mess with Entropy.
Originally posted by darthgoober
IDK, Surfer DID manage to channel the energies of the Crunch so I think there's a chance he could manipulate Entropy if it was right in front of him. That's not to say that he could replicate the energy at will or that manipulating would in any way be easy, but Surfer is far from the "standard energy manipulator" and I think he's got a pretty good shot at being able to work with it.
Um,NO. IN DC, one does not go around manipulating entropy. unless you are an abstract level being, you aren't touching it.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Despite a certain similarity, Entropy is by the worse energy and cannot be manipulated the way Surfer did the crunch.Entropy is the end of existence in DC. It's located at the end of time, where the Time Trapper is. It destroys everything it touches and tears through everything, even abstracts.
Even a major A-list guy like Elemental Firestorm or Galactus couldn't mess with Entropy.
