Superman/HP Doomsday vs Silver Surfer/WWH

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Because the last time someone tried, it created the Anti-matter universe.

Krona's experiments involved trying to see the beginning of the universe, and while doing that, he unleashed entropy into the multiverse........unless they retconned it again.

I can't remember what story arc Extant was in, something JSA. Zero Hour, OWAW, the action comics issue where the Entropy Aegis one-shots DD, various crossovers like JLA/Avengers featuring Krona, Hunter/Prey, anything LSH involving time trapper, and I think that's it.

And don't think I'm calling you a liar or saying the proof is nonexistent because I'm not, I'm just seeking some form of actual confirmation on it.

Team 1

i'm gonna go with team 2 on this one... i don't think wwh has the feats to match the other three, but assuming surfer can get rid of clark quickly, i see him wiping out doomsday without much trouble...

Originally posted by Raoul i'm gonna go with team 2 on this one... i don't think wwh has the feats to match the other three, but assuming surfer can get rid of clark quickly, i see him wiping out doomsday without much trouble...

Originally posted by fangirl101
And what would he do to wipe out DD that Darksied/the Radiant/Waverider couldn't?

Originally posted by darthgoober
He's probably thinking about Surfer's BFR options.

DS, Waverider both have superior BFR powers to surfer. If that would have worked, wouldn't they have used them?

Originally posted by fangirl101
DS, Waverider both have superior BFR powers to surfer. If that would have worked, wouldn't they have used them?

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's no different than saying Gladiator not using a speedblitz against the Hulk is proof that Hulk can't be speedblitzed...

Or that they knew it wouldn't work. I'll have to look up DD and see if he's been bfr before. If he has, then it won't work on him. I'm pretty sure he's been bfr a couple of different ways he's probably immune to now. In an old fight with a guardian, he seemed to think that doomsday could adapt to the combined might of all of the gaurdians. So he killed himself to bfr doomsday. DD can adapt to at least skyfather levels of energy in an attempt to bfr. And the ring had nothing to do with it. The gaurdian specifically says it's doomsday adapting.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Or that they knew it wouldn't work. I'll have to look up DD and see if he's been bfr before. If he has, then it won't work on him. I'm pretty sure he's been bfr a couple of different ways he's probably immune to now.

Originally posted by darthgoober
He's also been put down by physical force without ever evolving past it. Until he actually resist or shows the ability to counter it BFR is a viable way to score a win over DD.

He resisted and adapted to a gaurdian trying to bfr him. guardian>>surfer.

No one ever adapts past a punch. But he has adapted to the level of strength it takes to put him down.

Originally posted by fangirl101
He resisted and adapted to a gaurdian trying to bfr him. guardian>>surfer.

No one ever adapts past a punch. But he has adapted to the level of strength it takes to put him down.

Also...

That particular Guardian<DOS Supes unless I'm mistaken.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And what would he do to wipe out DD that Darksied/the Radiant/Waverider couldn't?

Originally posted by darthgoober
He's probably thinking about Surfer's BFR options.

bingo.

I'm gonna have to side with team 2 also. There's no evidence DD would evolve past temporal displacement beyond hearsay at this point.

I'm not sure if DD's ability to evolve is infinite either.

I'm looking to a split or a slight majority for team 1, simply because WWH is a complete non-factor, and because SS is unlikely to one-shot superman or BFR DD immediately.

Originally posted by Ouallada
I'm not sure if DD's ability to evolve is infinite either.

when faced with a physical obstacle, at which point would DD not be able to evolve?

That's precisely the question I am asking as well. Assuming infinite limits based on a finite history is flawed.

Team 2: matter manipulation from Surfer on both opponents ftw

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Team 2: matter manipulation from Surfer on both opponents ftw

Originally posted by fangirl101
DS, Waverider both have superior BFR powers to surfer. If that would have worked, wouldn't they have used them?

Originally posted by fangirl101
A guardian>>> surfer.