Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane has both skill and luck, as seen in all four movies.And since McClane stopped power being lost to the entire eastern seaboard in Die Hard 4.0, (Including nuclear power plant cooling systems etc) you could argue the same for McClane on the nuke front..
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Really, dude, watch 24. One of the terrorist plots on Day 4 was causing a nuclear meltdown in every power plant in the United States. Not to mention the Cordilla virus. That would've probably become a global pandemic. Eastern Seaboard? Please. The fate of civilization as we know it has rested in the hands of Bauer
Note, I do apologize if I'm sounding cocky/ dickish. I love McClane. He is to action films what Indiana Jones is to adventure films. Re-reading, I think I am sounding a bit harsh. I am not trying to say that McClane's feats aren't shit. I'm just trying to emphasize that Bauer is more competent than him
Is there any point now? This thread, as it turns out is one big 24 spoiler.
McClane is extremely competent.....even with a crippling hangover.
(And he never once was in a movie as horrifically and diabolically bad as Indy 4.)
You may then consider Bauer as the TV version of McClane.
Each masters of their own territory.
Fair enough on your apology though dude. Respected.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
IS there any point now? This thread, as it turns out is one big 24 spoiler.
Which, sadly for me to say.............🙁 is why it should be closed, along with any other Bauer thread. Bauer has more feats than McClane because, well, we've seen 192 hours of Bauer being awesome, while we've only seen 8 hours of McClane. I guess I'll have to hold out until the anything-versus-forum hopefully comes into fruition
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And he never once was in a movie as horrifically and diabolically bad as Indy 4.
Could you please further explain this analogy?
OK. I will.
Die Hard 4.0 in and Indy IV level of badness and horror would have had to have been like this:
McClane after being a devilishly cynical individual for the three previous movies would have pussied out, turned into a comedy figure of fun in a meet the parents style: alternating emo-ing about his lost friends like Al, Captain Roberts and all his long gone friends, the pussying out would be capped off by remarrying Holly Gennero, a formerly devilishly cynical individual who balanced out McClane's dark humour wisecracks with her own sharp tongue. She now becomes a complete demented housewife who is there in only the most irritating and asinine capacity, annoying the audience instead of thrilling them, she then pussywhips McClane into remarrying McClane who now steps aside and hands over the franchise to John Junior who spends his time on screen with a terrible second hand Marlon Brando persona and a really bad haircut, who spends his time swinging with CGI monkeys and battling people in a really reality/involvement shattering Errol Flynn fencing style.
McClane is surrounded by translucent, unthreatening, unconvincing pantomime villains whom we care nothing about, and an old friend (whom weve never heard/seen of before whom keeps openly switching sides confessing to McClane, and McClane falls for it everytime without shooting him once.
All of his studio exec inserted "jokes"about how old he is are terrible, and his stunts and feats are marked by inserted 'comedy' gophers utterly inappropriate to the situations at hand.
The movie is centered around the pursuit of a mystery macguffin, which we find out all about in the first 20 mins (yawn) and when we see the climax of the plot culminate, it delivers a mixture of "oh thats f**king bullshit" and more yawns with extra 'mehhh' thrown in. All 'twists' are telegraphed from jupiter only they are as visible to the naked eye as the sun is at midday.
Overall the Indy IV version of Die Hard 4.0 would have you yawning, but you'd be scared to do so for fear of drowning in the piss that the director unleashes on you and choking on the perpetual shizier river that the audience around you (and the cast too) dies in whilst watching the movie.
I nearly forgot myself that Jack was infected with a WMD and still kicked ass so that tops taking down a F-35. McLane was never infected with a bioweapon. Jack turned Renee Walker into a mini-Bauer. The next and final season, while stabbed and shot, he took down the Russian Embassy and was going to kill Charles Logan when Logan killed himself after Walker was murdered. Bauer has taken down Russians, Arabs and Chinese operatives. McLane takes down criminals. Jack takes down terrorists.
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
I nearly forgot myself that Jack was infected with a WMD and still kicked ass so that tops taking down a F-35. McLane was never infected with a bioweapon. Jack turned Renee Walker into a mini-Bauer. The next and final season, while stabbed and shot, he took down the Russian Embassy and was going to kill Charles Logan when Logan killed himself after Walker was murdered. Bauer has taken down Russians, Arabs and Chinese operatives. McLane takes down criminals. Jack takes down terrorists.
He is the f*cking man. Seriously, I recommend 24 to anyone here
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
I nearly forgot myself that Jack was infected with a WMD and still kicked ass so that tops taking down a F-35. McLane was never infected with a bioweapon. Jack turned Renee Walker into a mini-Bauer. The next and final season, while stabbed and shot, he took down the Russian Embassy and was going to kill Charles Logan when Logan killed himself after Walker was murdered. Bauer has taken down Russians, Arabs and Chinese operatives. McLane takes down criminals. Jack takes down terrorists.
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Originally posted by Lestov16He is the f*cking man. Seriously, I recommend 24 to anyone here
agreed
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Question - would McLane break under 20 months of torture by the Chinese? Jack didn't and he didn't even speak a word at all.
Probably not. Then again, his witty-lines would probably **** with the Chinese, they're silly like that.
But not sure how dealing with torture reflects to well in a fight like this? Doubt McClane would capture and then torture Bauer for info. He's here to punch, kick, head-butt and shoot his ass dead. But sure, Bauer is one tough mofo.
Might as well ask, has Bauer ever shot himself through a previously shot shoulder and a means to kill the guy behind him?
Originally posted by Robtard
Probably not. Then again, his witty-lines would probably **** with the Chinese, they're silly like that.But not sure how dealing with torture reflects to well in a fight like this? Doubt McClane would capture and then torture Bauer for info. He's here to punch, kick, head-butt and shoot his ass dead. But sure, Bauer is one tough mofo.
Might as well ask, has Bauer ever shot himself through a previously shot shoulder and a means to kill the guy behind him?
He withstood two knife wounds to the abdomen and still was dangerous enough to extemporaneously plan and nearly execute the assassination of the president of Russia
Originally posted by Robtard
So the answer to my questions is "no".
To answer question Rob about Bauer shooting himself, he had Chloe shoot him at point blank range to escape his capture. Bauer knew he was about to captured by the Feds, so he had Chloe shoot him so he would receive medical attention. And that was after two knife wounds. Bauer then proceeded to knock out the medics and steal a 9mm.