Blade vs. Captain America

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
difference is both of them admitted to a draw, youre pretty much one of the only one clinging to the fact its not a draw, I dont wanna call yo ua fanboy because I know you have much knowledge of the character but come on - the fight was written as a stalemate whether r not both characters were trying

there are many different ways I could evaluate it to make it seem like blade was winning but I wont because it was a stalemate

Uh NO!
Blade's the only one who said anything about them being "evenly matched" Wolverine didn't think he was even a threat with his vile "Do your worst".

There's your crazed fanboyism again as it wasn't even a non partison narrative that it was an even fight. Blade thought it was and that's it.

The fight may have been written with the intention of having both characters walk away, that doesn't detract from the fact that it wasn't a stalemate, or even close. And the fact that you keep having to fall back on the "intention" of the fights outcome or Blade "thinking" he was evenly matched on his back without his weapons using a last resort just goes to show how far your fanboyism is going.

Lol any way you could "evaluate" it to make it seem like Blade was "winning" have all been tried by you and the've all failed. Because? He wasn't.

Originally posted by jinzin
Uh NO!
Blade's the only one who said anything about them being "evenly matched" Wolverine didn't think he was even a threat with his vile "Do your worst".

There's your crazed fanboyism again as it wasn't even a non partison narrative that it was an even fight. Blade thought it was and that's it.

The fight may have been written with the intention of having both characters walk away, that doesn't detract from the fact that it wasn't a stalemate, or even close. And the fact that you keep having to fall back on the "intention" of the fights outcome or Blade "thinking" he was evenly matched on his back without his weapons using a last resort just goes to show how far your fanboyism is going.

Lol any way you could "evaluate" it to make it seem like Blade was "winning" have all been tried by you and the've all failed. Because? He wasn't.

"do you worst" in no way shows he thikns blade is a threat, blade already had the vampire vile to him, if anything wolverine didnt care if it worked or not seeing as he doesnt fear death.
wolverine offered no arguement, he asked blade why he should let him walk out of there alive, blade said they were too evenly matched and wolverine let i trest at that.

and no, your evaluations have failed as well. the fight was a stalemate get over it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Longshot had Wolverine in the same position as well, but Wolverine managed to get out of it. Yes im aware that Wolverine is more skilled than Lonsghot but if Blade was able to punch him off him earlier we cant asume that he couldnt get out of that position again.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Didn't stop Blade from punching him off of him earlier on. Considering that Wolverine has much more experience its a disgrace that an injured Punsiher was able to hold his own against him for a bit. Come to think of it the fact that Pun did relatively well kinda implies he has to better at some aspects of h2h than Wolverine. If his experience is so good why do less experienced fighters always manage to do well against him? Take away his adamantuim and HF and he would probably lose to alot of top tiers.

Dude, Punisher has never done well against Wolverine.. like EVER... The only time he's even done remotely okay was due to either luck or an ambush. That's ridiculous for you to think that.

Less experienced fighters do well against Logan? Like Junzo? No. Like Silver Samurai? Nope. Like Shang Chi? Or Cap? Nah.

BY ENLARGE Wolverine kicks people's asses up and down less experienced, more experienced, and everything in between.

There are SOME exceptions but most of the time people do well against Wolverine in combat, he's coasting in nuetral, taxed out, or in Punisher's case "luck" (Ennis wow.. 😐...).... Lol take away his healing factor and Adamantium and he'd still kick people's asses.. take azrael for instance.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
"do you worst" in no way shows he thikns blade is a threat,

Exactly.. so you're starting to get it then?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade already had the vampire vile to him, if anything wolverine didnt care if it worked or not seeing as he doesnt fear death.

Cause the previous argument was that "Wolverine knew Blade had him dead to rights".....

Nice contradictions.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
wolverine offered no arguement, he asked blade why he should let him walk out of there alive, blade said they were too evenly matched and wolverine let i trest at that.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and no, your evaluations have failed as well. the fight was a stalemate get over it.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678

wolverine offered no arguement, he asked blade why he should let him walk out of there alive, blade said they were too evenly matched and wolverine let i trest at that.

Which really proves nothing except-

a) Blade was too cocky to say he was losing/outmatched.

b) Logan didn't care enough to argue the point (and why would he, seeing as he didn't even want to fight?)

Originally posted by jinzin
😂

Exactly.. so you're starting to get it then?

So he doesn't fear death but he let Blade up because????

Cause the previous argument was that "Wolverine knew Blade had him dead to rights".....

Nice contradictions.

you trust that they were evenly matched becasue Wolverine didn't continue to fight/kill a guy he didn't want to kill or fight in the first place? 😕

Uh, no they haven't. There's about 20-30 people who agree that wasn't anything close to a stalemate. So you're swrong there as well.

...so far only people agreeing with you are srank and battledwarf who side wit hwolverine in every fight

Originally posted by Don Mega
This is getting rediculous. Just because one character did this and didn't do that does not mean either of them was holding back unless the story or narration dictates it imo.

So we're to assume that Logan wasn't holding back when he chose to slug Blade when he could have just as easily beheaded him?

Or that he wasn't holding back when he stopped to talk when he could have crushed his windpipe?

Even if the story doesn't dictate everything, there are things like common sense and reading between the lines.

Originally posted by Don Mega
For the love of god leave it at a stalemate!!

Why? The logistics of the fight show otherwise.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678

...so far only people agreeing with you are srank and battledwarf who side wit hwolverine in every fight

What am I, chopped liver?

Originally posted by chilled monkey
What am I, chopped liver?

Originally posted by chilled monkey
So we're to assume that Logan wasn't holding back when he chose to slug Blade when he could have just as easily beheaded him?

Or that he wasn't holding back when he stopped to talk when he could have crushed his windpipe?

Even if the story doesn't dictate everything, there are things like common sense and reading between the lines.

Why? The logistics of the fight show otherwise.

Should have done this....should have done that......

Originally posted by chilled monkey
So we're to assume that Logan wasn't holding back when he chose to slug Blade when he could have just as easily beheaded him?

Or that he wasn't holding back when he stopped to talk when he could have crushed his windpipe?

Even if the story doesn't dictate everything, there are things like common sense and reading between the lines.

Why? The logistics of the fight show otherwise.

and the whole fight the ywere talking, blade couldve whipped out the serum the minute wolverine was on top of him, same way wolverine waited to strike with his claws

what logistics, blade and wolverine go up against very different opponents, and arent comparable to each other

The ironic this is is that we can sit here and nit pick every fight there ever was. And say things like "Superman should have used his hv, he must have been holding back". Or "Or Thor should have used his hammer better when he fought Superman, he must have been holding back". Or "Flash should have used his speed or absorbed his kenetic energy, he must have been holding back".

Sh!t at this pace pretty soon every fight in comics everyone will be holding back.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
The ironic this is is that we can sit here and nit pick every fight there ever was. And say things like "Superman should have used his hv, he must have been holding back". Or "Or Thor should have used his hammer better when he fought Superman, he must have been holding back". Or "Flash should have used his speed or absorbed his kenetic energy, he must have been holding back".

Sh!t at this pace pretty soon every fight in comics everyone will be holding back.

It's easy to say "so and so should have done this" when you're reading it in a comic, where you're completely safe and have all the time in the world to critiscise. When you're fighting for your life, I expect that it must be much harder to keep your head perfectly clear and decide on the optimum course of action.

Besides heroes usually hold back, seeing as they're heroes and don't want to kill people, cause excessive harm etc.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
no because blade ended the fight, wolverine knew there was no point in them dying uselessly, the fight is written as a stalemate, yo uarguing isn't going tochange it. YOu're going to dictate what wolverine was thinking without it being written. All we know is wolverine asked blade why he should let him go, blade said we're equal wolverine let it go at that. if the writer wanted to show blade would lose he would show it. Such as when he had blade stated he was going t ocarve up dr. doom, and dr. doom said try and it'll end up the same way as last time (in which dr. doom used a holding spelled to make blade immobile) he wrote the fight as a stalemate, they got in even shots both couldve killed each other but neither wanted to fight. Blade wasnt vamped out meaning he wasnt trying his hardest either.

...so far only people agreeing with you are srank and battledwarf who side wit hwolverine in every fight

You're so full of ****ing contradictions, Wolverine will launch himself into a situation of death because he's not afraid of it, but wants to avoid it in a fight?
Uh-huh you've just shown how little you know about Wolverine yet again.

Die uselessly? The man has jumped out of Hellicarriers like 3 times.. He does. not. care.

Yes all we know is that Wolverine asked Blade why He (Wolverine should let Blade go... meaning that Wolverine thought he "had" Blade. That doesn't sound to me like he thought it was a stalemate. Don't tell me I'm dictating shit when you've been doing that the whole time.

The only people agreeing with me? 🤨
And what about Chilled Monkey? I'll ask again, do you think for even one second I couldn't find 20 some posts of people who don't think that was a stalemate? 😐

Originally posted by snoopdogg
The ironic this is is that we can sit here and nit pick every fight there ever was. And say things like "Superman should have used his hv, he must have been holding back". Or "Or Thor should have used his hammer better when he fought Superman, he must have been holding back". Or "Flash should have used his speed or absorbed his kenetic energy, he must have been holding back".

Sh!t at this pace pretty soon every fight in comics everyone will be holding back.

Pretty big difference if Thor puts his hammer down for the fight.
If Punisher puts his guns away for a fight.
If cap drops his shield.

When a character purposefully pulls back they're most damaging weapon to another party in a toe to toe how can you possibly argue otherwise?

I can't believe we are still debating the Wolverine vs. Blade fight.

Wolverine easily disarmed Blade. Twice. Wolverine pinned Blade. Wolverine let Blade go. There is very little room for interpretation in there. Anyone who thinks that is a stalemate is delusional.

Wolverine easily took Blade down. Blade thought it would be a good idea to give Wolverine an even bigger advantage and turn Wolverine into a vampire (Blade has a very keen tactical mind don't 'ya know?) even though he didn't have a stake. Wolverine let Blade go. Wolverine won... as is usually the case when someone has let you off the ground...

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
so now whos picking and choosing, you disregard hiim admitting the fall shouldve killed him, but still take it as fact that he asid he could spar with ironman all day

and you posted no ironman/park feats

and the bloodlusted ironman was a zombie definently not as smart or brutal as the regular ironman would be

should of....would of.....could of......is no point for you.
He said score another narrow miss. He is astounded he's alive big deal Cap is human potential but human. Still its better feat then the Blade feat you showed. So let met ask you this how did he survive?

He's just thankful to live through events like that. What?.....did he land on a giant balloon or huge sofa that I'm not seeing anywhere in the picture. Doesn't change the fact he did what he did.

Doesn't change the fact that only a bit of the wind was knocked out of him.

Wrong regular Ironman wouldn't be as brutal on Cap as he would hold back. The bloodlusted Ironman would have much reason to hold back.

Ironman/park feats coming up. This one I'd say he did but it still more a impressive feat then your Blade feats.

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Again I see you showed no real proof Cap was KO'ed in the plane crash.

Also you say what happened in the period of silence well have you ever had the wind knocked out of you. He was probably out of breath.

Face it you have no proof.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
in the following issues, if you followed th eseries youd see he hadnt been home in months and the last time he was there was when he was arrested (his home is where he keeps his blood supply)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and the fight with morbius and shield agents was very recent maybe only a day before, and he was still sore from it he admits.

No he does not your full of shit.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
WOlerine obvviously had been in his apartment for a while seeing as shield was able to give him wolverines apartment in advance

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and wolverine has been turned into a vampire so yeah it'd work,

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and blade easily dealt with a vampire spiderman, a vampire wolverine wouldnt have been that different

Oh and vampire wolverine took over the marvel universes………..

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and yes, blade vamped out is mor epowerful than blade not vamped out.

Originally posted by jinzin
Wolverine wasn't in full mount the first time they were both crouching on the ground. And the only way Blade got out of that is because Wolverine once again stopped to talk.

Wolverine was on top of Blade and Wolverine didn't stop to talk, stop exaggerating. Also Wolverine let Blade go.

Originally posted by jinzin

LMAO OMFG you think Punisher is better at h2h than Wolverine? GTFO. 🤣

Dude, Punisher has never done well against Wolverine.. like EVER... The only time he's even done remotely okay was due to either luck or an ambush. That's ridiculous for you to think that.

1. Read what I said again I said he must be better in some aspects.
2. Your not getting the point. Punisher cant beat Wolverine in H2H but he loses because of his enhancements. How do slower characters do well against slower characters...skill.

Originally posted by jinzin

Less experienced fighters do well against Logan? Like Junzo? No. Like Silver Samurai? Nope. Like Shang Chi? Or Cap? Nah.

BY ENLARGE Wolverine kicks people's asses up and down less experienced, more experienced, and everything in between.

There are SOME exceptions but most of the time people do well against Wolverine in combat, he's coasting in nuetral, taxed out, or in Punisher's case "luck" (Ennis wow.. 😐...).... Lol take away his healing factor and Adamantium and he'd still kick people's asses.. take azrael for instance.

Ok then maybe you would like to explain how a bloodlusted Wolverine failed to hit an injured Punisher and failed to kill him because Punisher was so fast he barely got hit with the claws? THEN he fights an Alligator fights Wolverine again and he still manages to hold off Wolverine

The fact of the matter is this Punisher has no enhancements and thats how slower characters do well against faster characters......skill. Nothing wrong with the Einnis issue. Punsiher did relatively well when he was injured therefore a fully fit Punisher is going to do better.

You can keep listing all his other showings as much as you like the fact is 3rd tier fighters have given him problems so im not going to assume that Blade couldn't get out of it. Hell Wolverine didn't kill DD and he had help from hand ninjas and Shingen was cutting his ass up. He got humilated by Molly Hayes and Moon Knight....yeah lets just assume Blade isn't going to get out of it.