Im checking a respect thread for captain america and so far I havent seen muc hthat puts his speed above blade from what I've seen blade is more durable (when captain america survived the plane crash he was down for a little before getting up) but what feats are you saying put captain america above blade?
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
hoow? I supposed captain america can survive being shot...oh wait
You do know Cap had strength dampeners when he was shot right? Even Spiderman stated those would take a lot out of him.
Outside from that Cap has healed from a bullet to the head. He was even proclaimed dead.
He even took bullets from Sharon in vol 3. As Cap asserted he can heal from bullets because he's "built that way".
or a crashlanding aboard a shileld plane
Cap's damage soak is up there thats for sure.
Even worse from Spiderman/Ironman and then some.(high-feats Cap has other feats similar to this one as well)
http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0020ke1.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0021rz1.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0022nz4.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0006hc1.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0007nc4.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0008dd0.jpg
(standard feats)
Survives a building size explosion.
http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca24015cz1.jpg
Without shield or suit Cap survives a extreme high airplane crash.
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica20704co4.jpg
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica20705lx5.jpg
Jumps out of helicopter and leaves small foot craters on ground.
http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page30wa0.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page31tq3.jpg
Jumps out of helicopter onto vehicle.
http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherbloodglory0335ct8.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherbloodglory0336ch8.jpg
and what strength or speed feats does he have to put him above blade?
He has feats like catching WW2 torpedos on the move. To even mangling up a thick steel door. He has broken out of shield holding unit and has even shattered out of cryogenic freezing. To many feats of breaking chains.
Honestly handbooks don't do him much justice. His speed feats border on the insane level at times. But regularly he is declared faster by characters like Daredevil, Punisher, Atlantean, and even Ironfist stated he's never seen someone with Cap's strength/speed combination IIRC. And thats coming from someone who is enhanced by Dragon chi at that.
who is peak vampire which is > peak human [/B]
By handbooks yes. By the books not so much.
SPITE - it is IMPOSSIBLE to argue the facts of Blades physical superiority when vs. Captain America - Cap has too many feats FOR ANYONE ON KMC to argue against - with Caps feats it is possible to match HIM with ANYONE on Marvel / DC earth, and his sheer number of feats would give him a fighting chance vs anyone.
SPITE all day long - Blade needs about 100 more books, to begin to stand a chance...on paper.
Cap IS the peakest Human on the planet no doubt he is numero uno!
He has just done some very super human things.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
You do know Cap had strength dampeners when he was shot right? Even Spiderman stated those would take a lot out of him.Outside from that Cap has healed from a bullet to the head. He was even proclaimed dead.
He even took bullets from Sharon in vol 3. As Cap asserted he can heal from bullets because he's "built that way".
Cap's damage soak is up there thats for sure.
Even worse from Spiderman/Ironman and then some.(high-feats Cap has other feats similar to this one as well)
http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0020ke1.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0021rz1.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0022nz4.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0006hc1.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0007nc4.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0008dd0.jpg(standard feats)
Survives a building size explosion.
http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca24015cz1.jpg
Without shield or suit Cap survives a extreme high airplane crash.
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica20704co4.jpg
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica20705lx5.jpg
Jumps out of helicopter and leaves small foot craters on ground.
http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page30wa0.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page31tq3.jpgJumps out of helicopter onto vehicle.
http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherbloodglory0335ct8.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherbloodglory0336ch8.jpgHe has feats like catching WW2 torpedos on the move. To even mangling up a thick steel door. He has broken out of shield holding unit and has even shattered out of cryogenic freezing. To many feats of breaking chains.
Honestly handbooks don't do him much justice. His speed feats border on the insane level at times. But regularly he is declared faster by characters like Daredevil, Punisher, Atlantean, and even Ironfist stated he's never seen someone with Cap's strength/speed combination IIRC. And thats coming from someone who is enhanced by Dragon chi at that.
By handbooks yes. By the books not so much.
while the plane crash put captai namerica down for a minute or two, blade is perfectly fine:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladecrash.jpg (and ,maybe my opinion, but the explosion seems bigger)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladecrash2.jpg
while captain america is in much pain after his building explosion blade is fine after being i nthe explosion of a nuclear facility
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladeKorea2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladeKorea3.jpg
now you could argue he was out of range when it blew up so heres another example:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladeswordskills4.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladeswordskills5.jpg
as for the civil war fight neither ironman or spiderman were trying to kill him....that fight did upset me though I wanted captain america to win 🙁
If someone said to you "You are going to be in a plane crash. You can pick the air craft and you have two options: a SHIELD Helicarrier or a small air plane," who in their right mind would pick the air? You have a much better chance of survive a crash in a SHIELD Helicarrier than a standard air plane.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin....except for the fcact it pretty much vaporized on impact
If someone said to you "You are going to be in a plane crash. You can pick the air craft and you have two options: a SHIELD Helicarrier or a small air plane," who in their right mind would pick the air? You have a much better chance of survive a crash in a SHIELD Helicarrier than a standard air plane.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
than the large explosion aws what? it was much greater than the explosion from the standard plane which put cap down for a little bit
...
The Helicarrier wasn't "practically vaporised." Look at the scans, the outer hull of the ship is fine and sustained virtual no structural damage from the crash or the explosion. The explosion took place outside the ship, Blade was on the inside of the carrier. The force of the plane's explosion would hit Captain America, the Helicarrier's wouldn't touch Blade.
Difference between Captain America walking away from a plane crash (which didn't put him down for a minute or two as you keep saying) and Blade walking out of the Helicarrier crash is the same as the difference between surviving a grenade going off in your face or being on the twentieth floor of a sky scrapper when someone bombs the lobby. Captain America's feat is much more impressive.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
...The Helicarrier wasn't "practically vaporised." Look at the scans, the outer hull of the ship is fine and sustained virtual no structural damage from the crash or the explosion. The explosion took place outside the ship, Blade was on the inside of the carrier. The force of the plane's explosion would hit Captain America, the Helicarrier's wouldn't touch Blade.
Difference between Captain America walking away from a plane crash (which didn't put him down for a minute or two as you keep saying) and Blade walking out of the Helicarrier crash is the same as the difference between surviving a grenade going off in your face or being on the twentieth floor of a sky scrapper when someone bombs the lobby. Captain America's feat is much more impressive.
Originally posted by YFZ 350
People survived the plane crash Cap was in. Everyone died in the craft that crashed with Blade on it save Blade himself.BTW Blade is stronger, faster, better healer, etc. than Cap is. But Cap has that monsterous jobber aura that is hard to get by and a skills edge for advantages.
No. Captain America was the only person who walked away from the crash and Blade wasn't the only survivor his crash... the only "living" thing other than Blade still on the carrier when it crashed also lived; everyone else escaped prior to crash.
BTW Captain America is stronger, faster, better healer, etc. than Blade is.
Originally posted by srankmissingninLOL!
No. Captain America was the only person who walked away from the crash and Blade wasn't the only survivor his crash... the only "living" thing other than Blade still on the carrier when it crashed also lived; everyone else escaped prior to crash.BTW Captain America is stronger, faster, better healer, etc. than Blade is.
Originally posted by YFZ 350
LOL!
Find the best example of Blade's strength and I'll give you Captain America doing something much more impressive. Find the best example of Blade's speed and I'll give you Captain America doing something much more impressive. Every single thing Blade has ever done Captain America has done better, anyone who has ever read a comic book can tell you that.
Blade has never done anything to place him on the same level of speed, strength or durability as Captain America. The only thing resembling a reason for Blade > Captain America that anyone can provide is that Blade is a vampire and Captain America is a "human." Actions speak louder than words and Captain America's actions say he is much better than Blade in every way.
No rational person can make an arguement for Blade being superior to Captain America when every single piece of evidance supports the opposite. The only "advantage" Blade has is a meaningless title; he is a vampire - big deal - that means less than nothing. You can't assume Blade is stronger and make an arguement on blind faith based on the idea that a vampire > a human when Captain America has already proven it wrong.
