Originally posted by Daredevil1Ironman wasnt bloodlusted though....the fight was easy for him, captain america couldnt land a hit ironman just laned hits trying to KO him, a bloodlusted ironman would have captain america out in one move
Indeed but here we have a bloodlust-Ironman feat which is still better then the high end feats that Blades has.The standards Blades hasn't shown to out due Cap anyhow.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Fine here another high end feat for Cap. No jungle no plane. A insane high fall.Reed says Cap is traveling at 100 mph and he lands on the rocky thing and crashes on top of him. This is a very "high"end feat mind you.
http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales160101zn8.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales161021pm3.jpgNo jungle no impressive hell carrier.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Ironman wasnt bloodlusted though....the fight was easy for him, captain america couldnt land a hit ironman just laned hits trying to KO him, a bloodlusted ironman would have captain america out in one move
Yes he was. He was a berserker like the other zombies and was punching Cap left and right.
Thats a huge "durability"feat for Cap.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
....except mr fantastic was there to slow most of his fall and the thing took the rest of the impact from him
Actually mr fantastic admits he couldn't even stop him. He was moving to fast.
Plus it doesn't say he slowed him down at all anywhere? Thats just assumption on your part.
Yeah the thing took the impact but so did Cap. Last I checked the Thing isn't a water balloon to land softly on. The things harder then rock.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the crash and explosions tore up the hull though, it was much more devastating that the crash captain america was in
No it didn't. You can see the ship in the scans - there is virtually no structural damage done to the hull of the ship.
Captain America would have taken the brunt of the impact of the crash, because of the sheer size and area of the Helicarrier Blade would have taken virtually zero by comparison - much of the impact would be distrbuted through out the helicarrier.
Originally posted by Daredevil1..what zombies the scans he provided were of the civil war fight ironman was just trying to KO cap not kill him all of his blows were for that purpose
Yes he was. He was a berserker like the other zombies and was punching Cap left and right.Thats a huge "durability"feat for Cap.
Originally posted by srankmissingninthe ship was in tact everything in it was destroyed, fires were roaring and the ship was falling apart the fires inside the ship would indictate the explosion occured inside the ship as well
No it didn't. You can see the ship in the scans - there is virtually no structural damage done to the hull of the ship.Captain America would have taken the brunt of the impact of the crash, because of the sheer size and area of the Helicarrier Blade would have taken virtually zero by comparison - much of the impact would be distrbuted through out the helicarrier.
Originally posted by Daredevil1mr fantastic grabs him a couple of meters before he lands and was extering force trying to catch him, it slowed his fall allowing thing to take the rest of the impact, captain america obviously isnt durable enoug hto survive a fall like that if the punches ironman gave him broke his bones
Actually mr fantastic admits he couldn't even stop him. He was moving to fast.Plus it doesn't say he slowed him down at all anywhere? Thats just assumption on your part.
Yeah the thing took the impact but so did Cap. Last I checked the Thing isn't a water balloon to land softly on. The things harder then rock.
again if we compare the building explosion feats we see blade can take one and be fine while captain america was staggering and dazed
http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca24015cz1.jpg
while captain america is in much pain after his building explosion blade is fine after being i nthe explosion of a nuclear facility
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladeKorea2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladeKorea3.jpg
and a building explosion equal to the one cap took
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladeswordskills4.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladeswordskills5.jpg
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the ship was in tact everything in it was destroyed, fires were roaring and the ship was falling apart the fires inside the ship would indictate the explosion occured inside the ship as well
The inside of the ship wasn't in that bad of shape at all. The crash impact knocked some of the machinery lose, broke a few and started a few fires.
And Blade is the one who blew up that factory. He set the charges himself... it would be stupid to assume that he triggered them while he was still inside.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
..what zombies the scans he provided were of the civil war fight ironman was just trying to KO cap not kill him all of his blows were for that purpose
I meant this one.
http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericaann0918to3.jpg
http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericaann0919zm0.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericaann0921tj0.jpg
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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
mr fantastic grabs him a couple of meters before he lands and was extering force trying to catch him, it slowed his fall allowing thing to take the rest of the impact, captain america obviously isnt durable enoug hto survive a fall like that if the punches ironman gave him broke his bones
It doesn't even show the "grab" though. If you assume that, I get to assume he touched him before a attempted grab, as Cap's body knocked his open hands out of the way. Considering the speed he was traveling. As it showed no signs of really grabbing or slowing him down.
Since we both can assume two different things that part becomes irrelevant for the feat IMO.
But since I suppose that feat becomes questionable. Cap still has the high blood lusted Ironman and taking hits from Namor as well.
Bottom line Blade hasn't shown superiority as of yet. Plus considering that Logan's hits affected him and vice of virca of course. Its a moot point.
Cap has the means to hurt him and is close to his stats and is more skilled to boot.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
It doesn't even show the "grab" though. If you assume that, I get to assume he touched him before a attempted grab, as Cap's body knocked his open hands out of the way. Considering the speed he was traveling. As it showed no signs of really grabbing or slowing him down.Since we both can assume two different things that part becomes irrelevant for the feat IMO.
But since I suppose that feat becomes questionable. Cap still has the high blood lusted Ironman and taking hits from Namor as well.
Bottom line Blade hasn't shown superiority as of yet. Plus considering that Logan's hits affected him and vice of virca of course. Its a moot point.
Cap has the means to hurt him and is close to his stats and is more skilled to boot.
it shows mr fantastic reching for ihm while hes still a couple of yard s in the air, and in the next panel his arms are around him...that looks like a catch to me
and when has he faught a high blood lusted ironman?
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and a building explosion equal to the one cap took
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladeswordskills4.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladeswordskills5.jpg
The explotion Blade was in didn't injure anyone. I didn't injure Blade. I didn't injure the vampire Blade was fighting. I didn't even injure Blade's human friend was tied up against a wall no more than five feet away from Blade. The explotion Captain America was in actual did some damage other than blowing some windows and a small section of the wall.
Blade isn't anywhere near a durble as Cap.
Originally posted by srankmissingninthe explosion pretty much decimated the the entire floor very similar to the explosion captainamerica took, if you look a mailbox is wretched off o fthe sidewalk into the street meaning the blast was very powerful (seeing as mailboxes are nailed to the ground) and blades human friend isnt shown in the scans after the explosion
The explotion Blade was in didn't injure anyone. I didn't injure Blade. I didn't injure the vampire Blade was fighting. I didn't even injure Blade's human friend was tied up against a wall no more than five feet away from Blade. The explotion Captain America was in actual did some damage other than blowing some windows and a small section of the wall.Blade isn't anywhere near a durble as Cap.
and you proof for caps explosion being bigger is because it hurt cap....other than that the damage was virtually the same
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the explosion pretty much decimated the the entire floor very similar to the explosion captainamerica took, if you look a mailbox is wretched off o fthe sidewalk into the street meaning the blast was very powerful (seeing as mailboxes are nailed to the ground) and blades human friend isnt shown in the scans after the explosion
and again the VAMPIRE blade was fighting, who is just as durable as blade, is blade survived it easily ofcourse the vampire would too
He is on the next page in the comic. There was Blade, the guy Blade was fighting, Blade's friend, two other vampires and an unconscious chick in the room when it exploded. Not one of them was injured. It was a tame explotion.
