Blade vs. Captain America

Started by jinzin45 pages

" He could have slashed his throat or gut huh?
Yeah because he was so skilled and so fast he landed the first atta-..doh! No he didn't.
No it's because he's so proficient with swordsmanship that he didn't immediately lose control of his bl-..Doh! Yes he did.
So.. Outside the realm of your fanboy delusions... How was he gonna manage to do that again?

Again, you're giving Blade the benefit of the doubt to say that Blade could have downed Wolverine from the start... Besides your own fanboy interpretation and bias do you have any evidence whatsoever to prove that he not only could, but is even capable of as much?

What was he going to do? Throw the vile at Wolverine? The guy who dices rockets, darts, arrows, and needles out of the air and sees bullets pass by him in slow motion?

You think Blade would have any more luck against Wolverine than Cap did with his shield throw, or that Cyclops did with his eye beams? Both accounts when Wolverine had his back turned to them?.....

What am I asking for? Of course you do, because you like Blade and that's enough isn't it?

Or.... Was he going to run up to Wolverine and inject it into his neck? Funny that, because if that was going to be the strategy, he had that same opportunity with his sword. A longer, more proficient offensive weapon actually capable of defense as well which Blade is most familiar with, and even with that AND a reach advantage Logan landed two warning slices before he was even able to try and block, and Blade started that attack. So why would he fair better with a vile than he did with his sword? Oh that's right because you like Blade and that's enough.

Considering that Blade went for the vile attack and was successful. What then?
Again, how do you know that Wolverine's HF wouldn't completely negate the effects anyways? He had a knockdown drag out fight with a werewolf and he didn't turn into one of them. In fact an organization bent on turning citizens and thus Wolverine into a werewolf couldn't do it with werewolf blood or genetic manipulation, the best result they got out of that was reverting his mentality.... Or how about his fight with Ba'al, a demon vampire God; didn't turn then. When Dracula did turn him it was in the 70's... Yeah, after Fatal Attractions? Xavier outright states that wounds which would have been FATAL before are now only a MOMENTARY annoyance. Wolverine being bitten by Dracula didn't even rank as a fatal attack, it stands to reason that it doesn't even range into the ranks of momentary annoyances...
Then we've got Wolverine's healing factor counteracting symbiotic hosting attempts and him completely no selling the Brood several times, something Ghost Rider couldn't even dowith his mystical healing abilities. But a little vile from Blade'll do the trick right? Because there's so much evidence to support it right? Or is it because you like Blade.. and that's enough.

Considering we give Blade the benefit of the doubt that he did attack with his vile, AND faired better with it than his sword, AND Logan was turned... What now? Again we have two different universes where a vampiric Wolverine has taken over Marvel Earth, killing Dracula, turning Juggernaught, one shotting Sym, and disarming a Strange/Punisher hybrid. Dracula even recognizes that Wolverine immediately picked up on vampire tricks that took him eons to learn like shapeshifting and misting out. But Blade turning him into a vampire will be a good choice, effective, and a sure win for Blade right? Why? Is it because a Vampiric Wolverine's shown to be weak and powerless to the likes of Blade? Nah.... Can't be... Maybe it's......Because you like Blade, and that's enough.

Finally if we're to put into consideration that Blade did attack with his vile, AND faired better with it than his sword, AND Logan was turned, BUT he didn't turn into the hardcore uber vamp that he did in other universes and was just some lowly vampire, I suppose we're to think that Blade would then be able to draw out a stake and ace him on the spot because Blade said he could right? I mean, ignoring the fact that Wolverine just railed through everything he had without a problem.... I suppose we're supposed to also believe as a vampire Wolverine might lose his sense of skill and thus leave him open to Blade's attacks from there on.... Because it's not like we've seen a similar situation with a brainless Wolverine railing through Cap (also Blades physical equal if not superior as well as a far better h2h combatant) who was trying to dish out all he had right? I suppose we're left to believe that Wolverine totally would have been screwed if Blade was going for the kill. And is that due to the sheer mountain of volumes of overwhelming evidence to support the premise?.... No... It's because you like Blade.. and that's enough. "

Originally posted by jinzin

As Srank said, did Blade even hit him? It's the only "punch" with no sound effect. And even so, why would Wolverine even need to dodge it? If he didn't dodge it, it clearly didn't do anything to help Blade, it didn't get Blade off his back, or Wolverine of of himself.

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So now you don't think Blade landed that punch? That is truly golden son. Logan's flopping lips give me a indication that he got cracked square in the jaw. Logan's punch he landed that sent Blade back didn't do jack either. Blade pulled his gun and shot Logan dead in the chest. So he obvioulsy wasn't dizzy from the punch.

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This is funny. Blade didn't land this punch. 😆

Now, I'm not going to take this crap from you of all people KOTEX. You're a ****in idiot, a fool, a jester, clown, a walking joke.

There's a reason why people hold little to no respect for you here and mock you on a constant basis when they even give you the light of day that is.

And retarded behavior like calling me out on reading a fight I friggin scanned? It was a bonehead move that only goes to highlight that stupidity.

I get that you don't like being made a fool; then stop acting like one. You have an opinion try to have some proof to back it up, if you've got the proof try to ensure it's not PIS on an obvious level. You're not going to manage to do that against a characters stated powers, consistency and capabilities though and to insinuate that your opinion holds more weight than Marvel's only adds arrogance to that pile of hoplessness

But, what you shouldn't do is try to accuse others of the crap you do every day. 😐

Did I read the comic? Yeah, I read the comic. I didn't just skim it to look for weak Wolverine showings, or download it off the internet. I bought it, I read it, and I scanned it. Unlike you however, I also understood the CONTEXT of the material and comprehended it. CONTEXT KOTEX.. it's massively important when debating against characters and using examples that stray from the norm. Of course I understand that it must be hard for you, I mean you've so much catching up to do when it comes to reading full blown comics instead of just the respect thread scans like you used to do. You're only decades behind most comic readers when it comes to context and full issues, but with enough hard work who knows.

But to go on and accuse me of being insane or to say that I'm stretching at something that you yourself admitted was open to interpretation?

WoW 😐

Coming from a guy who argued that Punisher was a threat to the DC Earth.
Apokolips.
That he could learn magic.
Or that SHIELD had superpower supplying devices so Punisher would stand more of a chance...

Yeah maybe you ought to think a bit before making hypocritical unsupported statements like that, of course here I am again under the impression that you COULD think. And hey, maybe you can, but when I'm facing a guy who didn't understand what PMS was, well I'm sure one could understand my hesitation to give that impression validity.

In any case, the only reason I've been responding to you in recent months as not been to point out your many faults, ignorances, and absurdities, it was because I had hope that you might come around to put your bias' aside and begin to appreciate Logan's character for what it is, not what you want it to be, now I see it's wasted effort. You see what you want to see, you make up what isn't there and you forget ALL SORTS of contradicted evidence that would stand against you in your arguments calling PIS when they're shoved in your face.

So many have been right about you...

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
You're like Xavier's Alfheim.

Originally posted by Soljer
It's not for calling the ring red; the fact that you called a [b]GREEN ring red was merely humorous.

It has quite a bit to do with the fact that the large majority of your threads have idiotic stipulations.

Why didn't you give the Hulk any Punisher robots? Or maybe the super soldier serum, too? Or Cap's skill, Superman's cape, Diana's boots, and Movie Batman's bat-nipples? [/B]

Originally posted by BUSTER1
How good is Alfheim's Crossbones??

Originally posted by Soljer
Of course you don't.

Because you're almost as big a fool as Alfheim.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
As I stated Sentry IMO opinion would have been flying at lightspeed. If hulk can hit that there is a chance that Hulk can hit him, because Hulk I dont think will be taken down straight away.

Also Hyperion has been shown to have reactions in nanoseconds basciaclly he has Supermanesque type reflexes.

Originally posted by Amp
You sir are a fool.

Sentry wasn't close to using full speed or even half or quarter speed in the Sentry/Hulk fight. If you think so then you really are retarded.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Let’s assume by some power of the Reality Gem that Alfheim is correct and Hulk can reach near light speed.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No no no no no. He doesnt think that she deserves to be molested he thinks that they should give up on her. Didnt I explain that in my last post?

The point being if you give up while there is a chance that she is still alive may increase her suffering. Your supposed to be intelligent....context.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
*You're.

Wait.

Even in that context how does it mean he's saying she deserves to be molested and killed?

What a fool.

-AC

Originally posted by Noraa Senoj
You sir are an idiot.

Originally posted by Eel O'Brian
Honestly, Jinzin, I'm surprised anybody has the willpower to still be quoting Phantom Zone in any of these countless threads.

I mean, he's oblivious, so can press on endlessly.

But the rest of you... saints. 😐

Originally posted by snoopdogg
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So now you don't think Blade landed that punch? That is truly golden son. Logan's flopping lips give me a indication that he got cracked square in the jaw. Logan's punch he landed that sent Blade back didn't do jack either. Blade pulled his gun and shot Logan dead in the chest. So he obvioulsy wasn't dizzy from the punch.

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I'm pretty sure the whole point behind that was that if you clowns feel it's so up to debate has to if Blade was out of range for the first two shots Wolverine landed, or that Blade rolled with the punch that sent him to the back of the apartment and that he wasn't in danger of being diced before or during his "injection plan" kicked into action then there's equal reason to assume that Blade didn't hit Logan at all considering.

It's more a mockery of your ridiculous arguments.

I don't think it was ever up for debate or even if anyone cared as to the effect of the punch, just that Wolverine DID land a clean hit, with claws out it would have ended the fight.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
This is funny. Blade didn't land this punch. 😆

Lol, ignoring the context of the argument and the purpose.. Of course on the other hand, there's far more reason to believe that Logan rolled with the punch than there is to believe that Blade did. At least Logan wasn't sent to the other side of the room. 😐

Or maybe Blade's just a weak ass.

Originally posted by jinzin
Lol, ignoring the context of the argument and the purpose.. Of course on the other hand, there's far more reason to believe that Logan rolled with the punch than there is to believe that Blade did. At least Logan wasn't sent to the other side of the room. 😐

Or maybe Blade's just a weak ass.

that does it, you're officially in the battlehammer territory of logan fanboyishness

Originally posted by Starscream M
that does it, you're officially in the battlehammer territory of logan fanboyishness

Okay do you have ONE THING to support that statement? What did I say about that that was incorrect?

Blade got sent flying to another side of the room by Logan's punch yet we're to believe he rolled with it?

Wolverine wasn't even knocked off of Blade and we're to believe that Blade's stronger than Logan and connected full force?

Please. When you're opinion of me is something I care about I'll be calling the guys in white coats. You're worse than Alfy. At least he tries.

Originally posted by jinzin
Okay do you have ONE THING to support that statement? What did I say about that that was incorrect?

Blade got sent flying to another side of the room by Logan's punch yet we're to believe he rolled with it?

Wolverine wasn't even knocked off of Blade and we're to believe that Blade's stronger than Logan and connected full force?

Please. When you're opinion of me is something I care about I'll be calling the guys in white coats. You're worse than Alfy. At least he tries.

blade clearly connected cleanly against Logan's jaw...look at his grimace

yet you have the gaw to proclaim ludicrously that logan was rolling with that punch?

I expect better from you...guess not anymore, your bias is blinding you to common sense

Originally posted by jinzin

Blade got sent flying to another side of the room by Logan's punch yet we're to believe he rolled with it?

Who said Blade rolled with Logan's punch? Nobody said that. And even so the punch did nothing to Blade.

Originally posted by Starscream M
blade clearly connected cleanly against Logan's jaw...look at his grimace

yet you have the gaw to proclaim ludicrously that logan was rolling with that punch?

I expect better from you...guess not anymore, your bias is blinding you to common sense

I'll say it again, ignoring the context of that veiwpoint in how it was brought up in the first place.

IF BLADE ROLLED WITH WOLVERINE'S PUNCH
WOLVERINE ROLLED WITH BLADES....

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What's good for the goose is good for the gander.... What part of that don't you get?

Originally posted by jinzin
I'll say it again, ignoring the context of that veiwpoint in how it was brought up in the first place.

IF BLADE ROLLED WITH WOLVERINE'S PUNCH
WOLVERINE ROLLED WITH BLADES....

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What's good for the goose is good for the gander.... What part of that don't you get?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Who said Blade rolled with Logan's punch? Nobody said that. And even so the punch did nothing to Blade.

Originally posted by snoopdogg

Actually about several people have said that, it's the whole reason why Srank brought it up in the first place. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
Actually about several people have said that, it's the whole reason why Srank brought it up in the first place. 😬
I don't think so. Nobody said Blade rolled with that punch.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
[B Blade isnt even worried about wolverine in the slightest, and makes jokes about the way he dresses. wolverine unsheathes his claws and blade speed blitzes him before wolverine can move. wolverine makes a slice for blade but blade rolls away and it only clips him. WOlverine tries to punch blade but blade rols with the hit and jumps bac kand shoots wolverine who is hurt and attacks in a blind fury precisely as blade wanted him to do. [/B]

YES someone DID... 😐

The hell is wrong with you, why would I make that up? 🤨

Originally posted by jinzin
YES someone DID... 😐

The hell is wrong with you, why would I make that up? 🤨

Ok, I missed that. But it's pretty clear Blade didn't roll with the punch. He ate it.

However the slice can be argued he rolled with.

As I said. Blade punching Wolverine is the only "punch" in the fight with out a sound effect. It's possible it missed. 😈

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
As I said. Blade punching Wolverine is the only "punch" in the fight with out a sound effect. It's possible it missed. 😈
True, but Blade made his face grimace with the punch and it knocked him back. So there was some power to it. Even then Logan's punch didn't do any damage was so ever to Blade. He still had his bearings.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Ok, I missed that. But it's pretty clear Blade didn't roll with the punch. He ate it.

However the slice can be argued he rolled with.


Agreed.

Though I feel Wolverine DID just cut his face a little to see if he DID have a healing factor.

But yes it's up for debate entirely.

Originally posted by jinzin
Agreed.

Though I feel Wolverine DID just cut his face a little to see if he DID have a healing factor.

But yes it's up for debate entirely.

Same thing I thought, but it is certainly debatable.