Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yes. He's also stronger and faster. Just better all over save skills. Cap has him there.Technique will prevail and give Cap the win.
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The durability feats provided where ambigous, and still not concrete evidance of being more durable than Captain Ameirca... considering even the few examples of Caps durability provided where more impressive.
Blade isn't stronger. Blade's placement at 2 tons is a pity placement, he has absolutely NO feats to suggest he is that strong. In fact... he doesn't have any strength feats that Daredevil hasn't topped. Captain America's feats actually place him in the 1-2 ton range. He is stronger than Blade.
Cap is fast as well. Blade's best speed feats are nothing compared to Caps.
Captain America is better in every possible way.
Originally posted by srankmissingninthe only two comparalbe were the exploding buildings, in which blade was able to fight although still in pain, while captain america was staggering tyring to escape the building
🙄The durability feats provided where ambigous, and still not concrete evidance of being more durable than Captain Ameirca... considering even the few examples of Caps durability provided where more impressive.
Blade isn't stronger. Blade's placement at 2 tons is a pity placement, he has absolutely NO feats to suggest he is that strong. In fact... he doesn't have any strength feats that Daredevil hasn't topped. Captain America's feats actually place him in the 1-2 ton range. He is stronger than Blade.
Cap is fast as well. Blade's best speed feats are nothing compared to Caps.
Captain America is better in every possible way.
what people kee pforgetting this isnt a straight out fight in number one, I thikn in scenario number one blade has the advantage, in scenario number to captain america might get the slight majority
and what speed feats does captain america have that trump blade?
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678superior skill?
the only two comparalbe were the exploding buildings, in which blade was able to fight although still in pain, while captain america was staggering tyring to escape the buildingwhat people kee pforgetting this isnt a straight out fight in number one, I thikn in scenario number one blade has the advantage, in scenario number to captain america might get the slight majority
and what speed feats does captain america have that trump blade?
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the only two comparalbe were the exploding buildings, in which blade was able to fight although still in pain, while captain america was staggering tyring to escape the building
Lets say that those feats made Blade look tougher is that enough to prove that Blade is tougher?
Cap has taken several shots from a villain who was class 20....while intoxicated. Hes also had his head used as a wrecking ball by a superhuman Red Skull, had the whole house collapse on top of him and he wasn't even severaly injured.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
what people kee pforgetting this isnt a straight out fight in number one, I thikn in scenario number one blade has the advantage, in scenario number to captain america might get the slight majorityand what speed feats does captain america have that trump blade?
I dont know about you but I think its going to be very difficult to prove that either one of them are faster. Im not even going to go there.
You actually might be right about the scenerios....he does have an adamantuim blade and the first scenerio is at night.....I think I would give the first scenerio to Blade.
Originally posted by Phantom Zonecould you post those feats then, bladde is mainly more durable because of his healing factor which helps him a lot.
Lets say that those feats made Blade look tougher is that enough to prove that Blade is tougher?Cap has taken several shots from a villain who was class 20....while intoxicated. Hes also had his head used as a wrecking ball by a superhuman Red Skull, had the whole house collapse on top of him and he wasn't even severaly injured.
I dont know about you but I think its going to be very difficult to prove that either one of them are faster. Im not even going to go there.
You actually might be right about the scenerios....he does have an adamantuim blade and the first scenerio is at night.....I think I would give the first scenerio to Blade.
its not the best healing factor but its definently useful, and we cant use villains as a point as blade and captain america fight different villains, and how does captain america being intoxicated effect his durability?
Im not trying to prove one is faster tha nthe other, many people have said captain america is faster and no proof has been given, they have very similar speed feats.
and scenarios:
1: blade 6/10
2. captain america 6/10
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
could you post those feats then, bladde is mainly more durable because of his healing factor which helps him a lot.its not the best healing factor but its definently useful, and we cant use villains as a point as blade and captain america fight different villains, and how does captain america being intoxicated effect his durability?
In combat Cap would use breathing techniques to tense his muscles to better resist impact. Being intoxicated would make it harder for him to time his breathing to tense his muscles properly, so his durability wouldn't be as good.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneYou actually might be right about the scenerios....he does have an adamantuim blade and the first scenerio is at night
No offence, but aside from the fact that it won't break, I fail to see why an adamantium sword will make much difference. Cap can block/dodge it as easily as a regular sword.
Originally posted by chilled monkeyok, good point. do you have scans of this though? also doesnt having a healing factor pretty much put him above cap
In combat Cap would use breathing techniques to tense his muscles to better resist impact. Being intoxicated would make it harder for him to time his breathing to tense his muscles properly, so his durability wouldn't be as good.
Originally posted by chilled monkeythats the only reason I put it in, so it wouldnt shatter against captain americas shield
No offence, but aside from the fact that it won't break, I fail to see why an adamantium sword will make much difference. Cap can block/dodge it as easily as a regular sword.
and blade is very adept with his swrod as well as his weapons. he has pin-point accuracy and has hit a vamped out spiderman with his shots as well as vampires (normal vampires are above peak-human - not saying above captain america since he has good feats, but above peak human in general
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im not sure if Blade is faster or stronger but if he is its going to be marginal. I think it would be difficult to prove.
just curious - my knowledge is quite limited, wouldnt a mid-top tier Vampire be alot stronger than the strongest human? (i consider CapUSA the most peak human on marvel earth) Faster also? and probably a bit more durable, well vs blunt force anyway? Or does it not work like that in Marvel Universe?
I know Blade has not got the feats to back it up obviously but is it not just...the nature of the beast?
Strong vampire > Strong Human? (im aware Cap has been called super human on many occasions, and if he IS in the " Super human" catagory its at the bottom level of Super Human.)
Sorry to sound ignorant..but i am.
Originally posted by Juk3n
just curious - my knowledge is quite limited, wouldnt a mid-top tier Vampire be alot stronger than the strongest human? (i consider CapUSA the most peak human on marvel earth) Faster also? and probably a bit more durable, well vs blunt force anyway? Or does it not work like that in Marvel Universe?I know Blade has not got the feats to back it up obviously but is it not just...the nature of the beast?
Strong vampire > Strong Human? (im aware Cap has been called super human on many occasions, and if he IS in the " Super human" catagory its at the bottom level of Super Human.)
Sorry to sound ignorant..but i am.
On paper yes, but that's not the way things are done here. In debates you have to look at the facts, that is what actually happens in the comics. Proof is in the pudding.
Just saying "Strong vampire > Strong Human?" is not enough. You have to provide proof. If Captain America has performed feats that put him above vampires, then we regard him as being above vampires.
Basically we go by what actually happens in the actual comics, not how it 'should' go theoretically.
Originally posted by Juk3nyes,
just curious - my knowledge is quite limited, wouldnt a mid-top tier Vampire be alot stronger than the strongest human? (i consider CapUSA the most peak human on marvel earth) Faster also? and probably a bit more durable, well vs blunt force anyway? Or does it not work like that in Marvel Universe?I know Blade has not got the feats to back it up obviously but is it not just...the nature of the beast?
Strong vampire > Strong Human? (im aware Cap has been called super human on many occasions, and if he IS in the " Super human" catagory its at the bottom level of Super Human.)
Sorry to sound ignorant..but i am.
some feats are:
jumping extremely high
speed blitzing spiderman
astounding luke cage with strength
and such however even if they sohuld be captain america still has better feats than a normal vampire
Originally posted by chilled monkeywell a regular vampire amazed luke cage with strength thats something right?
On paper yes, but that's not the way things are done here. In debates you have to look at the facts, that is what actually happens in the comics.Just saying "Strong vampire > Strong Human?" is not enough. You have to provide proof. If Captain America has performed feats that put him above vampires, then we regard him as being above vampires.
Basically we go by what actually happens in the actual comics, not how it 'should' go theoretically.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yes,
however they dont have many feats,some feats are:
jumping extremely high
speed blitzing spiderman
astounding luke cage with strength
and such however even if they sohuld be captain america still has better feats than a normal vampire
But thats it..Blade isnt a normal vampire - he's a MASTER martial artist who is - (for lack of a better description) Stronger than a Very Strong Vampire.
Im not just looking for a Blade victory here, im just trying to logically (i know logic has little place in battles) logically in the M.Universe sense of the word trying to see why people think blade wouldnt get any wins.
Originally posted by Juk3n
But thats it..Blade isnt a normal vampire - he's a MASTER martial artist who is - (for lack of a better description) Stronger than a Very Strong Vampire.Im not just looking for a Blade victory here, im just trying to logically (i know logic has little place in battles) logically in the M.Universe sense of the word trying to see why people think blade wouldnt get any wins.
And if we're JUST going by feats - why wasnt Spite called and the thread closed - there is no way to prove Blade could win?
im bad at explaining things, but i hope my point is somewhat clear.
Sorry for the double post - i meant to edit not quote, my bad.
Originally posted by Juk3nActually Blade is as strong as the strongest vampire.
But thats it..Blade isnt a normal vampire - he's a MASTER martial artist who is - (for lack of a better description) Stronger than a Very Strong Vampire.Im not just looking for a Blade victory here, im just trying to logically (i know logic has little place in battles) logically in the M.Universe sense of the word trying to see why people think blade wouldnt get any wins.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladestrengths.jpg
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually Blade is as strong as the strongest vampire.http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladestrengths.jpg
Blade is (on par with) The strongest vampire - AND a master martial artist and a veteran AND completley and utterly proficient with a sword.
NO he doesnt have the feats, and i cant give him the win for that reason.
Lack of Feats - due to having far less books shouldnt be cause for a loss especially when u are pushing feats like The strongest vampire and master martial artist.
im done, ty guys for your patience of my lack of know all. 👆
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually Blade is as strong as the strongest vampire.http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladestrengths.jpg
Originally posted by Juk3n
thanks for clearing that up for me pal, it helps my point even more.Blade is (on par with) The strongest vampire - AND a master martial artist and a veteran AND completley and utterly proficient with a sword.
NO he doesnt have the feats, and i cant give him the win for that reason.
Lack of Feats - due to having far less books shouldnt be cause for a loss especially when u are pushing feats like The strongest vampire and master martial artist.
im done, ty guys for your patience of my lack of know all. 👆
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How in the hell does that scan help clear up ANYTHING you asked?
All it does is say "Blade's badass" in a roundabout way, it makes no reference to his strength, nor does it display a feat.
When it comes down to it, Vampires are quite a bit stronger than regular humans, but then so are peak humans and guys like Cap.
There us no clear distinction by title so we have to find one by feats. Blade doesn't have any to say he's stronger. 😬
