Blade vs. Captain America

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
but they have similar speed feats, I'm not saying one is faster than the other

I know im refering to Blades durability.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678

and lbade has faught people much touger than captain america (dracula, varnae, etc.)

Yes but I was trying make the point that Blade is not tough enough to make it difficult for Cap to Ko him.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
cap has atleast twice the stats of a peak human presently, plus his skill etc. he wins. heck deadpool is afraid of him.

I think Cable said that Cap was three times as strong and fast as he was, and Cable is > peak human himself.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I know im refering to Blades durability.

Yes but I was trying make the point that Blade is not tough enough to make it difficult for Cap to Ko him.

each were in a building explosion (only ones really comparable)

blade was fine after his (his muscles were hurting but he was ready to fight varnae)

wihle captain america was stumbling around injured trying to escape

that plus the fact blade has his guns and an adamantium sword make it easier for him (and hes hit a vampire spiderman, that and he has inredible feats of accuracy)

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think Cable said that Cap was three times as strong and fast as he was, and Cable is > peak human himself.

fine then.
blade is peak vampire, regular vampire>peak human (they have feats to back that up as well)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
normal vampires have speed blitzed spiderman and have overpowered him (can captain america do that?)

normal vampired have astounded luke cage with their brute strength and luke cage is far stronger than captain america, and normal vampires have dodged bullets point blank range

you havent given many feats for captain america but can he dodge bullets at point blank, does he have the speed to speedblitz spiderman?, would he be able to make luke cage struggle if he were to wrestle with him?

When was Spider-man ever speed blitzed by a vampire?

You are making it sound like the vampire was stronger than Cage, and not someone who had the element of surprise and was quickly over powered after the initial shock wore off. Luke and Panther where going around rescuing people in New Orleans. He got jumped by some guy and wondered why he was so strong. Black Panther figured out it was a vampire so Cage grabbed him by the neck and dragged him into the sun light.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
ooooh sorry, well the durability fets given, blades have been better

each were in a building explosion (only ones really comparable)

blade was fine after his (his muscles were hurting but he was ready to fight varnae)

wihle captain america was stumbling around injured trying to escape

that plus the fact blade has his guns and an adamantium sword make it easier for him (and hes hit a vampire spiderman, that and he has inredible feats of accuracy)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
why can we take what cable said at face value, but not what blade says?

fine then.
blade is peak vampire, regular vampire>peak human (they have feats to back that up as well)

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The difference? Cable said someone else was better than he was. Blade was tooting his own horn. Not exactly the same thing, is it?

And what are these feats that back this up? Blade doesn't have any significant strength feats. Nothing he has ever done hasn't been topped by Daredevil. He doesn't have any significant speed feats. Once again... nothing he has ever done hasn't been topped by Daredevil.

And Blade isn't a peak vampire. The fact that he has fought several vamps who have out classed him pretty much debunks that statement.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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And what are these feats that back this up? Blade doesn't have any significant strength feats. Nothing he has ever done hasn't been topped by Daredevil. He doesn't have any significant speed feats. Once again... nothing he has ever done hasn't been topped by Daredevil.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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And Blade isn't a peak vampire. The fact that he has fought several vamps who have out classed him pretty much debunks that statement.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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The difference? Cable said someone else was better than he was. Blade was tooting his own horn. Not exactly the same thing, is it?

And what are these feats that back this up? Blade doesn't have any significant strength feats. Nothing he has ever done hasn't been topped by Daredevil. He doesn't have any significant speed feats. Once again... nothing he has ever done hasn't been topped by Daredevil.

And Blade isn't a peak vampire. The fact that he has fought several vamps who have out classed him pretty much debunks that statement.

and you havent provided a single speed feat to prove hes faster, and what vampires has he faught that outclasses him who didnt have some sort of magical boost in power?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Has DareDevil ever ripped somebody's head off with his bare hands?
I have shown narration stating Blade has the power and vitality of the most powerful undead. You have hopes and dreams. 🙂

If Daredevil ever ripped someones head off, I'd wonder who the hell was wearing his suit. That would be pretty out of character.

I can show you narration that says Captain America runs faster than the speed of light (forget the wording but something equally as ridiculous)... clearly he doesn't. Remember that Vampire Priest who totally kicked Blade's ass? Blade wasn't looking to peak there, now was he? 🙂

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
....blade didnt desccribe himself as peak vampire, the narrarator did

and you havent provided a single speed feat to prove hes faster, and what vampires has he faught that outclasses him who didnt have some sort of magical boost in power?

I direct you to the respect thread, they aren't that hard to find... do you really want be to have to go through it and find them? 😠

I don't have a collection of Captain America's feats. What I do have is the very few appearances that Blade has had since he has been retconned as being a vampire, and I can tell you he doesn't have any significant speed or strength feats.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If Daredevil ever ripped someones head off, I'd wonder who the hell was wearing his suit. That would be pretty out of character.

I can show you narration that says Captain America runs faster than the speed of light (forget the wording but something equally as ridiculous)... clearly he doesn't. Remember that Vampire Priest who totally kicked Blade's ass? Blade wasn't looking to peak there, now was he? 🙂

Draconis caught Blade off guard and Blade only had one hand.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If Daredevil ever ripped someones head off, I'd wonder who the hell was wearing his suit. That would be pretty out of character.

I can show you narration that says Captain America runs faster than the speed of light (forget the wording but something equally as ridiculous)... clearly he doesn't. Remember that Vampire Priest who totally kicked Blade's ass? Blade wasn't looking to peak there, now was he? 🙂

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I direct you to the respect thread, they aren't that hard to find... do you really want be to have to go through it and find them? 😠

I don't have a collection of Captain America's feats. What I do have is the very few appearances that Blade has had since he has been retconned as being a vampire, and I can tell you he doesn't have any significant speed or strength feats.

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Originally posted by snoopdogg
What's harder to believe? Cap running light speed or Blade being peak vampire?

Draconis caught Blade off guard and Blade only had one hand.

He had a stake strapped to the ol' stump. Anyway, it was such a one sided ass kicking that Blade missing a hand would hardly matter. Having a Priest crash through your window and attack you is pretty surprising, but Blade had more then enough time to gain some composer when he was knocked out the window.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. [b]If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.

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Exactly. You are claim that Blade is as strong / fast as Captain America, the burden of prove is on you, not me.

... but I don't expect you to get any because it doesn't exist.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Exactly. You are claim that Blade is as strong / fast as Captain America, the burden of prove is on you, not me.

... but I don't expect you to get any because it doesn't exist.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He had a stake strapped to the ol' stump. Anyway, it was such a one sided ass kicking that Blade missing a hand would hardly matter. Having a Priest crash through your window and attack you is pretty surprising, but Blade had more then enough time to gain some composer when he was knocked out the window.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
no, you assumed he wa better than blade i nall aspects, without proof

No. I know he is better because Blade hasn't done anything to suggest otherwise. There is not an ounce of assumption involved. The burden of proof is on you.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and got the better of him and staked him numerous times before he realized he was a vampire without weakness, when they faught again blade won

He didn't get the better of him. He stood there and let Blade try and stake him... then he stumped him into the ground. Then Blade jumped him after then fight ended... and he ended up getting staked himself.