Blade vs. Captain America

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Every street has narration stating time slows?

"Time slows for our hero" or some variation thereof is pretty much a bog-standard term used in comics/novels to describe anyone who is moving at incredible speed.

Originally posted by snoopdogg

Time slows once again. Can Cap say that?

Is there narration stating Cap has blinding speed?

Off the top of my head:

from 'Captain America: War and Remembrance'-

'To the terrorists, it seems almost as if time is standing still, the Avenger moves so fast.'

'The battle is over... three point seven seconds after it began!'

Cap took out three terrorists in 3.7 seconds without injuring two hostages. Speed and precision.

"It can't be! No man can dodge a shotgun blast at this range!"

Cap ducked under the shotgun blast at point blank range

Originally posted by chilled monkey
I'm pretty sure srank was talking about Luke Cage, not Spiderman.

Ok but those scans where above his post. I wouldn't put it past him to say something like that though.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Even Iron Man's files state Blade is stronger than Cap.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade1ton-1.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Cappeak.jpg

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It doesn't even state what Cap's capability is at. Blade's at a ton and has a title of superhuman, but because Cap is claissified as "peak human" with no spcification of his lifting ability we assume that Blade is stronger? Uh..no.. it doesn't say he can lift less than a ton, or that he's outright weaker than Blade. It gives two titles, one of which is completely open to interpretation since there's no specification and frankly Cap's feats are> a ton no problem.

Originally posted by jinzin
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It doesn't even state what Cap's capability is at. Blade's at a ton and has a title of superhuman, but because Cap is claissified as "peak human" with no spcification of his lifting ability we assume that Blade is stronger? Uh..no.. it doesn't say he can lift less than a ton, or that he's outright weaker than Blade. It gives two titles, one of which is completely open to interpretation since there's no specification and frankly Cap's feats are> a ton no problem.

I don't know what else to say.

feats>>>>>>>character descriptions.

Im afraid Cap does have feats that go into 1ton or above i'll get them later. The problem is bios are really unreliable when it comes to stats for years it was said that Caps max is 800lbs thats just not true

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im afraid Cap does have feats that go into 1ton or above i'll get them later. The problem is bios are really unreliable when it comes to stats for years it was said that Caps max is 800lbs thats just not true

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Then Cap is obviously stronger.

Nope, Blade and Cap are probably about the same. As I was explaining peak human is really the same as superhuman but superhuman low level for example in terms of strength 1 to 2 tons.

Its just the bios are bs when they say he can lift 800lbs max there are lots of showings that contradict this. You just deduce it from reading comics over the years that people who are described as bieng peak human basically have the same feats as other superhuman street levelers....I hope that kinda made sense.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Nope, Blade and Cap are probably about the same. As I was explaining peak human is really the same as superhuman but superhuman low level for example in terms of strength 1 to 2 tons.

Its just the bios are bs when they say he can lift 800lbs max there are lots of showings that contradict this. You just deduce it from reading comics over the years that people who are described as bieng peak human basically have the same feats as other superhuman street levelers....I hope that kinda made sense.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
It's like jinzin and srank said. Blade don't have the feats so he's not in Cap's league.

He does. Hell wasn't there scans of a non-superhuman Blade dodging Gambits cards? 🙄

I would say though that Cap does have better h2h showings but hes not faster, stronger but I think Blade is slightly more durable.

Originally posted by snoopdogg

Everytime you bust out a bio that contradicts somebody they say the "proof is in the pudding".

Thats the thing though what actually happens in the comicbooks takes precedent over bios. I can see where you coming from though they say he doesnt have any feats and then they say that bios are crap its like you cant win. The difference is im saying that he has the feats but bios are not the final word the feats are...and Blade does have the feats.

Originally posted by emporerpants
feats>>>>>>>character descriptions.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
It's like jinzin and srank said. Blade don't have the feats so he's not in Cap's league. Everytime you bust out a bio that contradicts somebody they say the "proof is in the pudding".

Bios don't even contradict us. They state Blade can lift a ton. Other than that you're relying on vague titles to assume Blade's stronger. Maybe according to titles he should be but having superhuman as a title and then stated to be able to lift a ton ( a contradiction in itself when it comes to comic book characters)... That doesn't make someone stronger than a peak human (let's just ignore that Cap's been described as superhuman as well since, well you don't have a problem dong that anways) when the "peak human" is running around doing things that put 1 ton to shame.

Feats> Bios.
Feats> Titles.

But neither bios nor titles even give Blade an edge. 😐

Originally posted by jinzin
Co-signed. For crap's sakes, what takes precedence feats or a title?

Bios don't even contradict us. They state Blade can lift a ton. Other than that you're relying on vague titles to assume Blade's stronger. Maybe according to titles he should be but having superhuman as a title and then stated to be able to lift a ton ( a contradiction in itself when it comes to comic book characters)... That doesn't make someone stronger than a peak human (let's just ignore that Cap's been described as superhuman as well since, well you don't have a problem dong that anways) when the "peak human" is running around doing things that put 1 ton to shame.

Feats> Bios.
Feats> Titles.

But neither bios nor titles even give Blade an edge. 😐

Originally posted by chilled monkey
"Time slows for our hero" or some variation thereof is pretty much a bog-standard term used in comics/novels to describe anyone who is moving at incredible speed.

Off the top of my head:

from 'Captain America: War and Remembrance'-

'To the terrorists, it seems almost as if time is standing still, the Avenger moves so fast.'

'The battle is over... three point seven seconds after it began!'

Cap took out three terrorists in 3.7 seconds without injuring two hostages. Speed and precision.

"It can't be! No man can dodge a shotgun blast at this range!"

Cap ducked under the shotgun blast at point blank range

😕 Dunno where you read that.
I'm with Srank here. There's just no real evidence to support that Blade's stronger. I could care less if Cap actually is. Blade isn't.

Originally posted by jinzin

There us no clear distinction by title so we have to find one by feats. Blade doesn't have any to say he's stronger. 😬

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's all standard stuff.

And your point is?

You asked for Cap speed feats and narration/character dialogue that referred to Cap's speed/time seeming to slow for Cap. That's exactly what I provided.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
And your point is?

You asked for Cap speed feats and narration/character dialogue that referred to Cap's speed/time seeming to slow for Cap. That's exactly what I provided.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea, but it was all basic stuff. And at least I posted scans. 🙂

I don't have access to a scanner.

And so what if it's basic stuff? It still answers your query. Your exact words:

"Time slows once again. Can Cap say that?"

"Is there narration stating Cap has blinding speed?"

Both of which have been answered as yes. So now you're trying to claim they don't count? But the stuff you posted does, even though that's basic as well.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
I don't have access to a scanner.

And so what if it's basic stuff? It still answers your query. Your exact words:

"Time slows once again. Can Cap say that?"

"Is there narration stating Cap has blinding speed?"

Both of which have been answered as yes. So now you're trying to claim they don't count? But the stuff you posted does, even though that's basic as well.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So Cap is stronger?

might be saying C≥B Might be saying B=C