Blade vs. Captain America

Started by snoopdogg45 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I thought the narration was done by some sort of zombie bard who was singing a ballad of Blade. Don't bards tend to lean towards exaggeration and have a flare for the epic.

Off the top of my head Captain America and Batman both do. Cap explained he "sees things slower," and I forget what Batman said exactly but I think it was when Hama was writing.

Anyway it happens to normal real life humans. I'm sure you've experienced it.

lol

Yes.

Stuff like...

"No ones that fast!"

"I can't get a bead on him!"

... is the bread and butter of street level heroes. You'd be hard pressed to find a single one who hasn't had someone say that.

More skill than speed. The cuts where so straight that the vampire held together for a while. It be more impressive he had thrown in some verticle cuts instead it is basicly one cut (one motion is more accurate then cut maybe) that be moved up the body from the feet to the head.

Not sure. Other streets have blocked bullets with similar and smaller things.

10 feet? No big deal. Wolverine ran straight down an alley at two Brood enhanced cops before the could get a shot off.

Daredevil has been in the sniper scope of a hit man one panel then right behind him the next.

Basic stuff man.

Imagine so. It has been said about virtually every street.

No but it makes the shooter easier to anticipate and thus easier to avoid...

I've atleast made an attempt to post scans. Talk is cheap. Let's see what Cap has done being you are saying Blade isn't close to being as fast as Cap.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Even Iron Man's files state Blade is stronger than Cap.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade1ton-1.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Cappeak.jpg

Captain America has grabbed Terrax with one arm and swung him over his head (with one arm). Terrax weighs in at 2750lbs. I guess Stark's files aren't up to date?

^ Oi. I'm the only one allowed to talk up Cap like he's a god!!! 😒:

We all know Cap can utilize leverage and turn their opponent's power and weight against themselves. Let's not accidentally mislead innocent thread perusers into thinking Cap can grab Terrax and fling him around with one arm now...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Captain America has grabbed Terrax with one arm and swung him over his head (with one arm). Terrax weighs in at 2750lbs. I guess Stark's files aren't up to date?
Don't think so. It's right there in black and white. And it's not even a handbook.

So is DareDevil stronger than Blade?

Blade's stats are predicated on the fact that he is a vampire, not what he has done. I don't feel comfortable saying that Blade is stronger than Daredevil simply because Blade is a vampire and Daredevil is a human, when it just hasn't been verified on panel. I'm just not willing to give a character the benifite of the doubt because of a title like vampire.

Actions speak louder than words.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Blade's stats are predicated on the fact that he is a vampire, not what he has done. I don't feel comfortable saying that Blade is stronger than Daredevil simply because Blade is a vampire and Daredevil is a human, when it just hasn't been verified on panel. I'm just not willing to give a character the benifite of the doubt because of a title like vampire.

Actions speak louder than words.

So DareDevil is stronger than Blade?

So what about Punisher? Is he stronger than Blade?

If I buy a car and the owner's manual says it can go 165 M.P.H but I never drive it that fast am I to assume it won't go that fast?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If I buy a car and the owner's manual says it can go 165 M.P.H but I never drive it that fast am I to assume it won't go that fast?

It be more accurate if you where buying a car, and the sales man told you it could easily reach 300mph... even though it never has, and their is nothing to suggest it could. All we have right now are assumption's with no imperical evidance.

So in your view of Blade he's around a athlete level in strength?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So DareDevil is stronger than Blade?

So what about Punisher? Is he stronger than Blade?

With out mention handbooks or the word vampire, can you make a case for him being stronger than either of those two?

In all likeliness Blade is stronger, but he just has been shown to stronger so far. I'm sure we will get some significant strength feets sooner or later, but right now you can't base the out come of a fight on what Blade should be able to do, might be able to do, or could do in the future. All we have to work with, is what he HAS done so far, and it just isn't enough.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It be more accurate if you where buying a car, and the sales man told you it could easily reach 300mph... even though it never has, and their is nothing to suggest it could. All we have right now are assumption's with no imperical evidance.
First off, I wouldn't be dumb enough to believe a street car can go 300mph. But if my manual says it can go 165 I'd be inclined to think it can.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
With out mention handbooks or the word vampire, can you make a case for him being stronger than either of those two?

In all likeliness Blade is stronger, but he just has been shown to stronger so far. I'm sure we will get some significant strength feets sooner or later, but right now you can't base the out come of a fight on what Blade should be able to do, might be able to do, or could do in the future. All we have to work with, is what he HAS done so far, and it just isn't enough.

Blade tore off a vampires head with his bare hands. He's held the Reaper over his head and the Reaper was a pretty massive vampire god. He's thrown vampires with one arm across descent distances. That's all I got.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
First off, I wouldn't be dumb enough to believe a street car can go 300mph. But if my manual says it can go 165 I'd be inclined to think it can.

What if I told you it was a super car? Your blind faith in Blade all rests on a title, might as well give one to the car.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade tore off a vampires head with his bare hands. He's held the Reaper over his head and the Reaper was a pretty massive vampire god. He's thrown vampires with one arm across descent distances. That's all I got.

Personally I'm content with the assumption that Blade is Class 2, strength wise, but I'm not going to argue that he is stronger then Daredevil or Punisher because it is just an opinion of mine, and not one that is based on anything concrete. It seems likely that he would be at least that stronger... but he hasn't show himself to be. I'm not going to say that he is in a debate with nothing to back it up though.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What if I told you it was a super car? Your blind faith in Blade all rests on a title, might as well give one to the car.
But it's not believable that a showroom car can go 300mph. It is believable that Blade has superhuman strength.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Personally I'm content with the assumption that Blade is Class 2, strength wise, but I'm not going to argue that he is stronger then Daredevil or Punisher because it is just an opinion of mine, and not one that is based on anything concrete. It seems likely that he would be at least that stronger... but he hasn't show himself to be. I'm not going to say that he is in a debate with nothing to back it up though.

I thought you might have missed this. So I bumped it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I thought you might have missed this. So I bumped it.
One more thing to say and I'm done with this thread.....for now 😮‍💨

So it is your belief that DD and Frank are Class 2?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
One more thing to say and I'm done with this thread.....for now 😮‍💨

So it is your belief that DD and Frank are Class 2?

Nope. The are <= peak human, but like I said my assumption that Blade is class 2 is based on nothing but the fact that he is a vampire. I'm not going to say that Blade is Class 2 in a debate, because I won't have a leg to stand on if I did, so I just base his strength level off what he has done instead... which isn't much.

I might think Blade is Class 2, but until he proves he is DD and Frank are stronger then he his by nature of strength feats alone.

^ Living Tribunal does not have a single strength feat to his name. I think he is stronger than either Murdock or Castle. But facetiousness aside... I also think Blade is stronger than either of those two.