Blade vs. Captain America

Started by srankmissingnin45 pages
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Living Tribunal does not have a single strength feat to his name. I think he is stronger than either Murdock or Castle. But facetiousness aside... I also think Blade is stronger than either of those two.

He likely is but there is nothing to support it but the assumption that he is stronger by the virtue of being a vampire alone. You really need something concrete in a debate for it to hold up, and right now we just don't have anything.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Aren't you trying to argue that Blade = Draconis? You aren't helping yourself...

Blade isn't a peak vampire. Draconis was superior... and he wasn't a peak vampire. If Blade was a peak vampire he'd be class 80-100, like Dracual, but he isn't.

no, draconis was peak vampie too, like blade he was immune to all the weakenesess of being a vampire and was trainined to fight blade since he was bitten

^ Thanos beats Living Tribunal in an arm-wrestling contest then?

we have feats from normal vampires though such as over powering spiderman/making luke cage struggle/punching blade through brickwalls blade being peak vampire is stronger than all of them or at least equal to

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
we have feats from normal vampires though such as over powering spiderman/making luke cage struggle/punching blade through brickwalls blade being peak vampire is stronger than all of them or at least equal to

So going by that logic, Blade is > class 15?

Originally posted by batdude123
So going by that logic, Blade is > class 15?
he should be one ton strength around there, but those are vampire feats

hes not stronger than luke cage definently but has enoug hstrength to make luke cage struggle

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
we have feats from normal vampires though such as over powering spiderman/making luke cage struggle/punching blade through brickwalls blade being peak vampire is stronger than all of them or at least equal to

When was Spider-man over powered?

Luke Cage was briefly surprised when he was attacked while on a rescue mission. He quickly overpower the vampire.

Everyone punches people through walls.

Next please?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
hes not stronger than luke cage definently but has enoug hstrength to make luke cage struggle

barker

Originally posted by batdude123
barker
thats what the feats say, blade only has strength feats in combat

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
When was Spider-man over powered?

Luke Cage was briefly surprised when he was attacked while on a rescue mission. He quickly overpower the vampire.

Everyone punches people through walls.

Next please?

he was surprised at how it could be that strong and made him struggle to over power it, but he did over power it.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladesavingspidey.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladesavingspidey2.jpg

thats also a pretty good strength feat, he threw the dagger with such force it knocked him off spiderman

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
he was surprised at how it could be that strong and made him struggle to over power it, but he did over power it.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladesavingspidey.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladesavingspidey2.jpg

thats also a pretty good strength feat, he threw the dagger with such force it knocked him off spiderman

He was surprised at the strength before he know it was a vampire. He thought some normal guy was attacking him, of course he was caught of gaurd. If you saw a tottler moving a television you'd say "Holy shit, that's a strong baby!" Doesn't mean he is stronger then you.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He was surprised at the strength before he know it was a vampire. He thought some normal guy was attacking him, of course he was caught of gaurd. If you saw a tottler moving a television you'd say "Holy shit, that's a strong baby!" Doesn't mean he is stronger then you.
no....I never said the vampire was stronger than him, luke cage just remarked it was infact strong and he had to struggle to push it off him, then he carred it into the sunlight (dont know hwy it didnt die then and there) for BP to stake

Didn't a big vampire beat the sh!t out of Cage in that issue?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Didn't a big vampire beat the sh!t out of Cage in that issue?

I thought it was a gargoyle or something...

but I don't have the issue on hand. Black Panther 11? It was bullet proof (I think) what ever it was.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Didn't a big vampire beat the sh!t out of Cage in that issue?
dunno, I the issue after their first meeting sold out at my store

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I thought it was a gargoyle or something...

but I don't have the issue on hand. Black Panther 11? It was bullet proof (I think) what ever it was.

As far as I know they were all vampires. The whole crew.

I will say this. It's hard to quantify what exactly vampires are capable of. In the cancelled Invaders comics, they were capable of shooting lightning and stuff. These were mere human-turned-into vampires mind you, not some uber vampire line.

But I think it's arguable that Blade is Cap's superior in speed and strength. It's logical. Peak vampire vs. peak human. But... Cap's scans are better than Blade's scans as far as I've seen. And I don't include every single human's feats (like Daredevil, MVP, Destiny Force Rick Jones, etc.) into Cap's repertoire when assessing how good he is. It's just one step too far, IMO. So including Varnae or Morbius or Dracula into Blade's repertoire is also suspect. That said. Blade is very underrated.

Cap 6/10.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He was surprised at the strength before he know it was a vampire. He thought some normal guy was attacking him, of course he was caught of gaurd. If you saw a tottler moving a television you'd say "Holy shit, that's a strong baby!" Doesn't mean he is stronger then you.

How did you come to the conclusion that Spiderman thought he was some normal guy, when Spiderman can see hes pale white with red eyes and heas hanging out in a graveyard?

Now I don't think that Blade is stronger than Cap and I dont think they are saying that Draconis is stronger than Spiderman but if Spiderman says 'I cant break free' Draconis is possibly as strong or stronger than Spiderman. If you actually look at the scans Spiderman didn't break free until Blade helped him.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
ooooh sorry, well the durability fets given, blades have been better

each were in a building explosion (only ones really comparable)

blade was fine after his (his muscles were hurting but he was ready to fight varnae)

wihle captain america was stumbling around injured trying to escape

that plus the fact blade has his guns and an adamantium sword make it easier for him (and hes hit a vampire spiderman, that and he has inredible feats of accuracy)

C'mon man you're not saying hes more durable from that feat alone? 😬

You might have seen the civil war scans of Cap getting beat up by Iron Man and then hit with a sonic blast, im pretty sure that there were people stumbling around who were more durable than Cap and Blade and Cap took that after a beating from Iron Man, i'll have to check it later though.

By the way I saw SHIELD agent take Blade out with a bullet and Cap has taken bullets to the arm and used it completely fine afterwards.....so im still not too sure that his HF makes him tougher due to the feats in your thread.

If you have some other scans of him taking swords or bullets I might change my mind, but im still verging towards Blade being tougher due to HF.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Basic. He flipped behind some chick as she was attacking.

Nah as far as I know that chick is a vampyre martial artist so shes not just some normal human. Its impressive that he did that to her. Im not arguing that Blade is faster but thats an impressive feat considering she is superhuman and well trained.

Also in Blade issue 1 before he was upgraded he infiltrated a vampyre base and was dodging alot of bullets and lasers. I cant remember wether they were bullets or lasers but there was alot of stuff to dodge and that was before his enhancements.

I think that Cap wins but you're not going to prove that Cap is faster.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
How did you come to the conclusion that Spiderman thought he was some normal guy, when Spiderman can see hes pale white with red eyes and heas hanging out in a graveyard?

Now I don't think that Blade is stronger than Cap and I dont think they are saying that Draconis is stronger than Spiderman but if Spiderman says 'I cant break free' Draconis is possibly as strong or stronger than Spiderman. If you actually look at the scans Spiderman didn't break free until Blade helped him.

C'mon man you're not saying hes more durable from that feat alone? 😬

You might have seen the civil war scans of Cap getting beat up by Iron Man and then hit with a sonic blast, im pretty sure that there were people stumbling around who were more durable than Cap and Blade and Cap took that after a beating from Iron Man, i'll have to check it later though.

By the way I saw SHIELD agent take Blade out with a bullet and Cap has taken bullets to the arm and used it completely fine afterwards.....so im still not too sure that his HF makes him tougher due to the feats in your thread.

If you have some other scans of him taking swords or bullets I might change my mind, but im still verging towards Blade being tougher due to HF.

Nah as far as I know that chick is a vampyre martial artist so shes not just some normal human. Its impressive that he did that to her. Im not arguing that Blade is faster but thats an impressive feat considering she is superhuman and well trained.

Also in Blade issue 1 before he was upgraded he infiltrated a vampyre base and was dodging alot of bullets and lasers. I cant remember wether they were bullets or lasers but there was alot of stuff to dodge and that was before his enhancements.

I think that Cap wins but you're not going to prove that Cap is faster.

no idea ohw it happened as it blacks out after he is shot, and the shield officer says hes wearing kevlar....and in scenes previos to that he takes a shot to the shoulder and is fine so we really dont know hw he was taken down.

and I really cant find amny other comparable feats both have been shot and been fine I'll check for more later.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
How did you come to the conclusion that Spiderman thought he was some normal guy, when Spiderman can see hes pale white with red eyes and heas hanging out in a graveyard?

I'm pretty sure srank was talking about Luke Cage, not Spiderman.