Originally posted by srankmissingninnot shield, blade admits it as does wolverine when they stop, and blade had just tangled with morbius and shield agents previous to the fight, neither were functioning 100% plus since wolverine faught omega red in russia (in origins) I believe he had plenty of time to recover, if anyhting e was just tired of fighting - but no physically exhausted
*sigh*On the topic SHIELD thinking Blade was Wolverine's equal: that proves nothing. In that very same issue it was shown that SHIELD knows virtually [b]nothing
about Wolverine - they didn't even know his claws are housed in his forarms! They still though his claws were a bionic attachment for his gloves, for christ sake!Wolverine easily overpowered Blade despite the fact that he was holding back and had just "gone 15 rounds with Omega Red," who is one of Wolverine's most powerful rogues. [/B]
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
not shield, blade admits it as does wolverine when they stop, and blade had just tangled with morbius and shield agents previous to the fight, neither were functioning 100% plus since wolverine faught omega red in russia (in origins) I believe he had plenty of time to recover, if anyhting e was just tired of fighting - but no physically exhausted
No he doesn't. Blade never says he is Wolverine's equal and neither does Wolverine. The closest thing to that is Wolverine saying "SHIELD figures you're their best shot of bringing me in?" and Blade says "Guess so."
And Wolverine's Origins "fight" with Omega Red ended with Wolverine in SHIELD custody, when he "escaped" he went straight after Daken; the Omega Red fight referenced in Blade is a second off panel fight that we never witnessed.
Blade 05:
(The fallowing is a summary of Blade's fight with Wolverine)
Blade shows up at Wolverine's apartment
Blade: "I'm here to fight you!"
Wolverine: *sigh*
Wolverine easily disarms and pins Blade
Blade: "I'm pinned, you have me dead to rights and have no weapon... I'll turn you into a vampire! Making you even stronger and faster then you are now is sure to help me win!"
DestinyGuy678: "Holy shit. Blade stalemated Wolverine."
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Originally posted by srankmissingninI don't trust your account, you're quite biased.
[B]Blade 05:(The fallowing is a summary of Blade's fight with Wolverine)
Blade shows up at Wolverine's apartment
Blade: "I'm here to fight you!"
Wolverine: *sigh*
Wolverine easily disarms and pins Blade
Blade: "I'm pinned, you have me dead to rights and have no weapon... I'll turn you into a vampire! Making you even stronger and faster then you are now is sure to help me win!"
DestinyGuy678: "Holy shit. Blade stalemated Wolverine."
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Originally posted by srankmissingninexcept for the fact another poster was using a similar scan to prove captain america could take on ironman, and again that is one point of view of the fight,
[B]Blade 05:(The fallowing is a summary of Blade's fight with Wolverine)
Blade shows up at Wolverine's apartment
Blade: "I'm here to fight you!"
Wolverine: *sigh*
Wolverine easily disarms and pins Blade
Blade: "I'm pinned, you have me dead to rights and have no weapon... I'll turn you into a vampire! Making you even stronger and faster then you are now is sure to help me win!"
DestinyGuy678: "Holy shit. Blade stalemated Wolverine."
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anotehr point of few, blade speedblitz wovlerine, draws wolverine with gunfire knowing it wnont do anything to him - all in order t oget wolverine close enough to use the vampire fluid which would end him
there are many different interpretations, the writer leaves it as a stalemate. its very controversal - the only reason I brought it up is when daredevil used the scan of captain america getting whooped by ironman and since captain america said he could take those all day that captain america had superior durability
Originally posted by srankmissingninIm not sure but wasn't daken in another country? it is possible the fight we witness is an inbetween (I think thats where the writer was trying to place it at least)
No he doesn't. Blade never says he is Wolverine's equal and neither does Wolverine. The closest thing to that is Wolverine saying "SHIELD figures you're their best shot of bringing me in?" and Blade says "Guess so."And Wolverine's Origins "fight" with Omega Red ended with Wolverine in SHIELD custody, when he "escaped" he went straight after Daken; the Omega Red fight referenced in Blade is a second off panel fight that we never witnessed.
but what shield says cant be taken at face value, even blade laughs at the fact that shield has "tacticians". What conviced me though is when blade said they were to oevenly matched and wolverine let him go - I have many wolverine comics if wolverine is merely annoyed by another he would slaughter them, or use hteir battered corpse to send a message.
if wolverine thought tother than what blade had said it wouldnt be out of character for him t ogut blade as a message to shield
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No he doesn't. Blade never says he is Wolverine's equal and neither does Wolverine. The closest thing to that is Wolverine saying "SHIELD figures you're their best shot of bringing me in?" and Blade says "Guess so."And Wolverine's Origins "fight" with Omega Red ended with Wolverine in SHIELD custody, when he "escaped" he went straight after Daken; the Omega Red fight referenced in Blade is a second off panel fight that we never witnessed.
Hate to say it, but I've just taken a look at that scan:
W: You think I'm just gonna let you walk outta here?
B: Yeah.
W: 'Cause?
B: 'Cause you know we're too evenly matched and you have better things to do with your time.
Sorry, just trying to be fair.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
except for the fact another poster was using a similar scan to prove captain america could take on ironman, and again that is one point of view of the fight,anotehr point of few, blade speedblitz wovlerine, draws wolverine with gunfire knowing it wnont do anything to him - all in order t oget wolverine close enough to use the vampire fluid which would end him
there are many different interpretations, the writer leaves it as a stalemate. its very controversal - the only reason I brought it up is when daredevil used the scan of captain america getting whooped by ironman and since captain america said he could take those all day that captain america had superior durability
Wolverine let Blade stab him and walked down the his sword, and decked him sending him flying across the room (had Wolverine not conciously retracted his claws he would have taken off Blade's head). Blade shoots at Wolverine because he no longer has his sword. Wolverine runs across the room and grabs Blade by the neck and pins him. At this point Blade is pinned and has no weapons. Wolverine his in total control and even tells Blade to go a head and vamp him. Now, how does Blade (who is pinned and has no weapons) turning Wolverine (who alread has the advatage) help him in anyway? Wolverine could kill him any time he wanted to in that postition. Turning him into a vampire would make him stronger, faster, and most of all much more brutal. Blade didn't even have a stake on him... so if he turned Wolverine into a vampire all that would have happened is Blade would be dead and there'd be a vampire Wolverine running around.
Wolverine: Vampire Enemy of the State anyone? lol
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Hate to say it, but I've just taken a look at that scan:W: You think I'm just gonna let you walk outta here?
B: Yeah.
W: 'Cause?
B: 'Cause you know we're too evenly matched and you have better things to do with your time.
Sorry, just trying to be fair.
Okay, so Blade thinks he is a match for Wolverine at least. 😮
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine let Blade stab him and walked down the his sword, and decked him sending him flying across the room (had Wolverine not conciously retracted his claws he would have taken off Blade's head). Blade shoots at Wolverine because he no longer has his sword. Wolverine runs across the room and grabs Blade by the neck and pins him. At this point Blade is pinned and has no weapons. Wolverine his in total control and even tells Blade to go a head and vamp him. Now, how does Blade (who is pinned and has no weapons) turning Wolverine (who alread has the advatage) help him in anyway? Wolverine could kill him any time he wanted to in that postition. Turning him into a vampire would make him stronger, faster, and most of all much more brutal. Blade didn't even have a stake on him... so if he turned Wolverine into a vampire all that would have happened is Blade would be dead and there'd be a vampire Wolverine running around.Wolverine: Vampire Enemy of the State anyone? lol
I think you summed it up perfectly. Logan had the upper hand throughout the entire fight and I agree, how the heck was vampirising Logan supposed to help?
Originally posted by srankmissingninagain all of this an opinion, it s your opinion that wolverine let blade stab him, while I could say blade just moved to fast for him. the fight can be interpretted either way to make it seem like both combatants had the upperhand. however it was made to be a stalemate ended i na stalemate and was stated to be a stalemate.
Wolverine let Blade stab him and walked down the his sword, and decked him sending him flying across the room (had Wolverine not conciously retracted his claws he would have taken off Blade's head). Blade shoots at Wolverine because he no longer has his sword. Wolverine runs across the room and grabs Blade by the neck and pins him. At this point Blade is pinned and has no weapons. Wolverine his in total control and even tells Blade to go a head and vamp him. Now, how does Blade (who is pinned and has no weapons) turning Wolverine (who alread has the advatage) help him in anyway? Wolverine could kill him any time he wanted to in that postition. Turning him into a vampire would make him stronger, faster, and most of all much more brutal. Blade didn't even have a stake on him... so if he turned Wolverine into a vampire all that would have happened is Blade would be dead and there'd be a vampire Wolverine running around.Wolverine: Vampire Enemy of the State anyone? lol
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the thing is wolverine does nothing after, wolverine asks - blades gives him an answer and wolverine accepts it
Wolverine didn't even want to fight him to begin with. Blade says the fight is over and he won't come back. Wolverine's super sense let him know Blade is telling the truth... like Wolverine cares enough to debate with Blade over who is better.
and your acting as if wolverine doesnt do these same things wit henemies he intends to kill, in his fight with sabertooth he retracts his claws and puts his hand to sabertooths throat saying hell pop them in oreder to kill him giving sabertooth time to grib his heart, why would wolverine retract his claws against an opponent he intends to kill? its i nhis characters. another incident is in his fight with te head of danger control who wolverine intended to kill, wolverine kick s and punches him with no claws befor finally killing him. it is perfectly in character for wolverine to use no clawed punches
Originally posted by srankmissingninblade didnt want to fight wolverine either, he rejected the idea and was reluctant going into it. however when has being reluctant to fight someone stopped wolverine from hurting them, in his fight against tank (I think that was his name) wolverine actually didnt want to fight tank and yet then entire fight wolverine was slashing and incapacitated tank and was about to kill him before captain america came up behind him. and again nothing in the panel suggests that your second statement is true, rather than your theory Im going by what is stated
Wolverine didn't even want to fight him to begin with. Blade says the fight is over and he won't come back. Wolverine's super sense let him know Blade is telling the truth... like Wolverine cares enough to debate with Blade over who is better.