Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

Started by -Pr-136 pages
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't doubt that he can and would flat out embarass people with his speed. But Superman usually does so when he gains the full measure of his opponents. And one of Hulk's immutable characteristics is that he always suprises his opponents with his speed that belies his size/strength. Which is, the reason 90% of the time, Superman gets clonked by his brick opponents (who aren't on WWH's level).

superman, even when he knows opponents' capabilities, will still fight on their level. it's only when he knows he can't win with simple strength that he amps himself.

when you can see the world in slow motion, its hard to believe you can get caught by surprise by someone hundreds if not thousands of times slower than you.

superman has straight up let people hit him in the past, just to let them vent their frustrations so that they might calm down.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Sentry has showings greater than Superman in durability, way before he went all Voidtry.

Are you kidding me? Sentry's durability is a joke. Smacked around by Ultron. Face burned off by an alien gun (wielded by his wife), obliterated by Le Fay. Burned himself almost to death when he went to close to the Sun (but The Void persona tooke over and he healed)

IIRC he was knocked out the sky or something by a Kree weapon handled by some chick who was trying to save Noh-Varr.

To me Sentry seems fairly easy to put down, the problem is he always seems to somehow return to life.

I guess was are all echoing H1s claim. Even Bada and Pr are also.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't doubt that he can and would flat out embarass people with his speed. But he doesn't do it to everybody. Because he doesn't need to (most of the time). In connection with that, Superman doesn't usually does so, when he hasn't even gained the full measure of his opponents. And one of Hulk's immutable characteristics is that he always suprises his opponents with his speed that belies his size/strength. Which is, the reason 90% of the time, Superman gets clonked by his brick opponents (who aren't on WWH's level). I'm not suggesting Superman won't know that Hulk is strongest there is (like so many of his brick opponents declare or demonstrate), but Superman would likely again be caught off guard by his relative speed. He ain't going superspeed intangible at the start of this fight (and I'd hardly believe you would make that argument). You are echoing h1a8's sentiments. H1a8 just tries to use equations to illustrate his thinking and exhaustively demonstrate why such thinking is cogent. In my estimation, you're simply starting from the same exact basis, bypassing the silly mathematics, and making the same exact conclusion.

Not my problem you cannot read the damn rules that both mods pointed out to you!

Originally posted by The Pict
Are you kidding me? Sentry's durability is a joke. Smacked around by Ultron. Face burned off by an alien gun (wielded by his wife), obliterated by Le Fay. Burned himself almost to death when he went to close to the Sun (but The Void persona tooke over and he healed)

IIRC he was knocked out the sky or something by a Kree weapon handled by some chick who was trying to save Noh-Varr.

To me Sentry seems fairly easy to put down, the problem is he always seems to somehow return to life.

Superman's been smacked around by robots too. I don't even want to guess what that alien gun would do to Superman's face. Sentry tried to kill himself. Send Superman next to a sun that is neither yellow nor red, and he'd probably slowly incinerate too.

Sentry let WWH hit him full on and tanked them nonchalantly without flinching. Three of those shots nearly killed Hercules. Superman would not stand there and unflinchingly take those shots. Don't even waste your time trying to convince me otherwise.

Originally posted by -Pr-
superman, even when he knows opponents' capabilities, will still fight on their level. it's only when he knows he can't win with simple strength that he amps himself.

when you can see the world in slow motion, its hard to believe you can get caught by surprise by someone hundreds if not thousands of times slower than you.

superman has straight up let people hit him in the past, just to let them vent their frustrations so that they might calm down.

Superman is not always in a superspeed state. Flash isn't. They'd go crazy trying to have a simple conversation with someone who is talking at normal speed. All the other factors you outlined are exactly why Superman isn't going into a fight with WWH and never getting hit once.
Originally posted by The Nuul
I guess was are all echoing H1s claim. Even Bada and Pr are also.
I'm speaking to anybody who thinks that WWH hitting Superman even once could never possibly happen in a vs thread. That included h1a8, among others, and it now includes you.

Originally posted by Badabing
😂

What's up dude.


Nothing much. Just durring up threads with my witty repartee.

Some people are having a hard time trying to find the different between KMC Supes and comic Supes.

Sentry let WWH hit him full on and tanked them nonchalantly without flinching. Three of those shots nearly killed Hercules. Superman would not stand there and unflinchingly take those shots. Don't even waste your time trying to convince me otherwise. [/B][/QUOTE]

So you are you using one instance to put Sentry's durability over Superman's? 😬
Total nonsense.

sentry was using high power output while taking those shots, he soon reverted to bob at that time.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Nothing much. Just durring up threads with my witty repartee.
That's always a win. And this thread deserves to be dured. 😂

Originally posted by The Pict
So you are you using one instance to put Sentry's durability over Superman's?

Total nonsense.

Very easily, I do. You using an instance of Sentry taking Shultron's punches... when he's outright ordered by Danvers NOT to harm her and just restrain her (like Superman has done so many times against opponents) and then right when he loses his cool, immediately starts ripping her head off (as Superman would likely do in the same circumstances) as some suggestion that Sentry's durability is poor?

No, my friend. That's not right. And Superman would not unflinchingly take WWH smashing his face in while not even trying to defend himself. Herc couldn't take much more than three shots. Superman ain't even close to taking a dozen.

A post I use when illutstrating Superman's durability:

Originally posted by The Pict
Yeah H/P Doomsday couldn't be stopped in that comic, he had to be removed from existence.

"A force equal to a million nuclear blasts" impressive durability feat for both Superman and Doomsday. When we next see Doomsday he's grabbing Superman ready to fight and laughing. After THAT!

Hulk couldn't hope to equal something as powerful as that explosion let alone top it, so how could he beat Doomsday?

However WWH was pierced by Warpath's knives. I'm sure either Emma Frost or Collosus drew blood from WWH.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Very easily, I do. You using an instance of Sentry taking Shultron's punches... when he's outright ordered by Danvers NOT to harm her and just restrain her (like Superman has done so many times against opponents) and then right when he loses his cool, immediately starts ripping her head off (as Superman would likely do in the same circumstances) as some suggestion that Sentry's durability is poor?

No, my friend. That's not right. And Superman would not unflinchingly take WWH smashing his face in while not even trying to defend himself. Herc couldn't take much more than three shots. Superman ain't even close to taking a dozen.

zom strange couldn't

Originally posted by The Pict
I'm sure either Emma Frost or Collosus drew blood from WWH.
so did juggernaut

Originally posted by psycho gundam
zom strange couldn't

PIS and CIP.

wooerm

Originally posted by Badabing
That's always a win. And this thread deserves to be dured. 😂

True 😂

I'll read all the posts by frothing fanboys on either side when I get back from work. If only I worked in a comic shop 🙁

Originally posted by The Pict
However WWH was pierced by Warpath's knives. I'm sure either Emma Frost or Collosus drew blood from WWH.
I don't remember comparing WWH's durability with Superman's. Do you?

Originally posted by Badabing
That's always a win. And this thread deserves to be dured. 😂

😂 That is a very true statement.
Originally posted by The Pict
If only I worked in a comic shop 🙁

You could sit in class and peruse these threads instead of listening like me.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
zom strange couldn't

so did juggernaut

Yeah man. I always view Juggernaut as having the upperhand in that fight.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't remember comparing WWH's durability with Superman's. Do you?

Sorry, I'm trying to stick to the topic at hand as we aren't going to see eye-to-eye on the Supes/Sentry durability debate.

Originally posted by The Nuul
PIS and CIP.

wooerm

not sure how you could think that, strange used zom as a stat boost like juggernaut does cytorrak (and is *ahem* stronger).

zom is full power as a complete being of his own volition