Hulk at base is complete shithouse. Superman will take him out with his speed before Hulk knows what hit him.
Hulk will be a statue.
Hulk at base is complete shithouse. Superman will take him out with his speed before Hulk knows what hit him.
Hulk will be a statue.
Originally posted by Placiditylol
Hulk at base is complete shithouse. Superman will take him out with his speed before Hulk knows what hit him.
base green scar had no issues with anything, the "base hulk" argument is a myth anyway (also a "mentioning low showings" forum illegality also)
and the speed thing... well sure superman can get a nice attack off the bat (if he was so inclined), but saying that puts hulk down initially is hard to believe, it's not like he will hit hulk with his kryptonite before he can react or some shit. superman won't be facing the same hulk during the coarse of the fight since hulk's power grows with adversity
i just don't see hulk getting taken out by this initial assault that may or may not even happen, not to mention hulk's performance against the sentry who for all intents and purposes is a superman type throwdown *shrugs*
Originally posted by aztec
Its practically spite in Hulk's favor. Superman is one dimensional. He not versatile, nor does he have the powerset to defeat Hulk!! WWH wins, because he's a billion times stronger than regular Hulk!! And gots the powezzz!!Hulk via speedblitz!!
You can't be serious........
Originally posted by psycho gundamHulk's one-dimesional offense is a weakness.
lacks the ability to capitalize on hulk's weaknesses, a slugfest is pretty much inevitable
How so? Clark could do a number of things to avoid one. Either way, does it matter if it turns into one? Can Superman still not use his far superior speed to evade Hulk while landing blows close combat? What about assortment of other powers? Are they null and void because they're face to face?
Hulk is the only one who lacks ability here. The ability to be versatile enough to win against an opponent with so many more options than him it's mind-boggling. An opponent who could probably take him in a slugfest anyway.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Hulk's one-dimesional offense is a weakness.How so? Clark could do a number of things to avoid one. Either way, does it matter if it turns into one? Can Superman still not use his far superior speed to evade Hulk while landing blows close combat? What about assortment of other powers? Are they null and void because they're face to face?
Hulk is the only one who lacks ability here. The ability to be versatile enough to win against an opponent with so many more options than him it's mind-boggling. An opponent who could probably take him in a slugfest anyway.
agreed with everything but the last sentence
Originally posted by Placiditythis isnt base hulk, this is WWH
Hulk at base is complete shithouse. Superman will take him out with his speed before Hulk knows what hit him.Hulk will be a statue.
i do agree regular hulk would maybe lose to superman
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
and this is why people like solomon grundy, doomsday etc tag him right?
^ PIS, you better believe it. Just because it happens a lot doesn't mean its not.
Characters with super speed on that level will always be surrounded by it. To say otherwise would be defying logic.
I mean if people like Superman and Flash were able to fully utilize their maximum speed to save the world etc, there would've been many things they could've done to end the threat pretty quickly, but they don't and its not because they like a challenge.
Something like DBZ characters would be an exception, since all of the characters have comparable super duper speed, so no need for PIS, and thats why theres not much of it (edit: except when it comes to making wishes, fck they make the dumbest wishes ever - should just make a wish like make Goku 1 billion times stronger, and the series could have ended right there).
Originally posted by Colossus-Big CNo. They tag him for the same reason that pretty much everyone in Flash's rogue gallery tags him. Because if they don't, then there's no fight. No fight, no struggle, no worth-while plot. I don't really consider it "PIS", since it's virtually essential, but it doesn't apply here.
and this is why people like solomon grundy, doomsday etc tag him right?
Can't utilize and/or recognize every attribute of such a multi-faceted character every issue against every opponent....in comics. This is a forum match.
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Superman get's tagged and fight's like a brick far more often than he does this hypothetical speed blitzes.
If it happens so often, I don't see how you can write it off as PIS. At this point, it's the norm.
Green Scar's a beast and shouldn't be underestimated. I'd say he'd take Superman in a purely physical confrontation but anyone who doesn't think it would be an extremely difficult fight is deluding themselves. I personally don't view Green Scar as beyond either Thor's or Superman's capabilities to take on in a purely physical confrontation (IRCC, Thor was supposed to stalemate Green Scar in the original WWH outline) He'd edge Superman out, or it might be a stalemate akin to the Sentry fight if Superman tosses in some actual combat super speed, heat vision etc.
Hulk takes it in a straight strength vs. strength match up (I don't see how anyone can deny that) while Superman can even it out by relying on his other powers or possibly even edge him out if he uses his super speed the way some people think he would.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
(IRCC, Thor was supposed to stalemate Green Scar in the original WWH outline)
Yea well he didn't.
Originally posted by Badabing
facepalm"Base" Hulk is just something that's never been changed from decades old handbook data. It has no place in this forum even if it was accurate. All characters are at full capacity per forum rules anyway. durhulk
Shut up you! 😠