Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

Started by SamZED136 pages

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
how can the whole wwh be PIS?

i guess supermans entire carrer is PIS then

Dont read Superman, so can't tell. But there're so many things wrong with WWH that I dont want to talk about it. The Nuul mentioned a few reasons why its PIS on the previous page.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Cool, your not a Hulk fanboy.

Never really cared about Hulk.

Originally posted by Deadline
I'm sorry then a lot of stuff must be PIS to you, thats absurd.

He's not just some skilled dude, hes one of earth greatest combatants hes been doing shit like that since his very first appearances unlike Batman. Oh and I don't think people would have a problem with Shang Chi or Elektra doing that.

A lot of stuff is PIS to me but only when it really makes no sense. One of the worlds greatest combatant is a good thing and im not taking that away from him, but Steve really has no buiseness knocking out Hulk. If say Wolverine did that everyone would've had a problem with that, or even if Spider-man did that and he is class 10-20. Heck 20+ years ago Spider-man knocked out Firelord who was holding back, took several explosions and it still took Spider-man a few hundred punches, and yet that example is used as main PIS example on many forums to this day. But when Cap oneshots the Hulk its just ok with everyone.🙁

An entire story arc or a characters entire run can't be PIS. In the WW Hulk arc, the writers went out of there way through the arc to explain that this incarnation was stronger and more powerful than any before. They actually detailed Hulk's meditation techniques to harness and focus his rage, thus amping him to extreme levels.

Rulk was later explained to be the result of a form of power cosmic and gamma. Plus, he may have got the drop on Thor in the 1st round but the 2nd round showed Thor having Rulk at his mercy.

In the most recent Hulk issue, a Banner controlled Hulk even states he's the most powerful with Rulk as maybe second to him.

If you all wanna argue that Strange/Zom, Thor, Watcher, Sentry, etc suffered from some sort of CIS, then that's fair. But stating entire story arcs and entire character runs are PIS is not fair. The arcs set the precedent, along with the new characters/personas.

Originally posted by Badabing
An entire story arc or a characters entire run can't be PIS. In the WW Hulk arc, the writers went out of there way through the arc to explain that this incarnation was stronger and more powerful than any before. They actually detailed Hulk's meditation techniques to harness and focus his rage, thus amping him to extreme levels.

Rulk was later explained to be the result of a form of power cosmic and gamma. Plus, he may have got the drop on Thor in the 1st round but the 2nd round showed Thor having Rulk at his mercy.

In the most recent Hulk issue, a Banner controlled Hulk even states he's the most powerful with Rulk as maybe second to him.

If you all wanna argue that Strange/Zom, Thor, Watcher, Sentry, etc suffered from some sort of CIS, then that's fair. But stating entire story arcs and entire character runs are PIS is not fair. The arcs set the precedent, along with the new characters/personas.

So blood and thunder isn't PIS?

Originally posted by amnesia
So blood and thunder isn't PIS?
If the thread title specifies "Blood & Thunder" Thor or "warrior madness" Thor, then no. How can it be PIS? Is was noted several times throughout Blood And Thunder what was happening to Thor and the reasons for his intensity and ferocity. It's a specific arc with a specific Thor.

But that doesn't mean that all his feats apply to current Thor. Some can be used, some may not have been equaled by Classic Thor or Thor resurrected. I'm inclined to think that Blood And Thunder showed Thor letting loose w/o holding back.

Since this thread specifically says "WWH", people can't scream PIS just because Hulk's feats during the arc may have exceeded previous incarnations of Hulk. As I said earlier, In the WW Hulk arc, the writers went out of there way through the arc to explain that this incarnation was stronger and more powerful than any before. They actually detailed Hulk's meditation techniques to harness and focus his rage, thus amping him to extreme levels." Reed, Stark, Strange and Prof. X all noted this. as well as WWH.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
how can the whole wwh be PIS?

i guess supermans entire carrer is PIS then

That leap of logic makes absolutely no sense.

Originally posted by Deadline
He's not just some skilled dude, hes one of earth greatest combatants hes been doing shit like that since his very first appearances unlike Batman.

Your ignorance is showing.

Originally posted by Deadline
Oh and I don't think people would have a problem with Shang Chi or Elektra doing that.

Of course they would.

Pak wrote Strange with CIS for the sake of the plot thus PIS. Instead of Strange BFRing him he wanted to duke it out. It wouldnt make a good story if Hulk is in a different dimension and when did Strange ever go H2H like this with anyone like this before Hulk?

I would like Carver's thoughts on this battle. hypocrite

Set-up

Superman, especially currently.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman, especially currently.

Jon is a beast

Hulk kills Supes with a single haymaker.

A powerless superman under red sun oneshots marvel earth

Superman still.

Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk was taking on Sentry who released more power than he ever had before. His healing factor makes his durability better. Supes has him on speed but then again so did Sentry. How did that turn out? 😬

Superman can be downed to a lucky punch by someone such as Kalibak. Are you really claiming that Kalibak is stronger than the Hulk let alone WW Hulk?

WW Hulk takes everything Supes throws at him ans beats him senseless. He wouldnt need a lucky punch.

This and yes, Kalibak has fought current Superman and beat him yet again. Any version of Hulk outside of Grey Hulk rips Superman in half if he is serious.

What feats did this Sentry have?

You don't think Sentry and Superman are peers? How many tiers would you put Superman above Sentry? If Superman is a 100, where is Sentry?

Originally posted by carver9
You don't think Sentry and Superman are peers? How many tiers would you put Superman above Sentry? If Superman is a 100, where is Sentry?
The tier just above Aquaman.

Lol... then Hulk dies.

Originally posted by carver9
You don't think Sentry and Superman are peers? How many tiers would you put Superman above Sentry? If Superman is a 100, where is Sentry?

Please detail feats from Sentry in the WWH storyline only.