Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

Originally posted by carver9
Which wouldnt work.

no reason why they couldnt...

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Maybe I should make a definitive WWH vs. Flash.

mmm

knock yourself out...

Originally posted by carver9
Its a good idea that you made a thread like this and I like it. The answer to your questions is that the reason that I think that doomsday rex appeared to be weaker due to superman even saying so himself, saying that he was getting weaker due to him losing confidence, when has doomsday become gladiator. Thats why superman was walking all over him due to him losing confidence and becoming weaker 😮 .

during that fight, maybe, but remember, the superman he was up against was far more powerful in pretty much every way than the one that fought in death of superman...

You do know that people such as black lightning stalemated a imperex probe, krypto almost outright out fought a imperex probe, aquaman killed on, wonder woman mother killed two of the with a mere space ship, doomsday and superman was one shotting them, the probes wasnt that impressive to be brought up in a battle forum. They didnt do anything to make me think that they are even above firelord let alone terrax.

aquaman nearly died, diana's mother did die... they were impressive enough to beat down kyle rayner, wally west and j'onn...

srug

Well cyclops did state that he could have used his blast to kill master mold who was the size of texas and he made it appear to be a easy task until he found out that master mold could absorb the blast.

Even though cyclops blast has heat in it, its still not a power that is use to burn things. His power is concussive force which is totally different from heat vision.

cyclops' blast doesnt have heat, i was referring to superman's blast...

By the way, how do you know which version batman was fighting when he was fighting grundy. You cant say that he wasnt fighting the superman version because batman also has great showings against superman.

batman always has a reason, though... kryptonite ring, ivy brainwashing, etc...

the fact that batman hurt grundy so easily means that the grundy wouldnt have a chance against alan scott...

By the way, War hulk, Mindless Hulk, and WWh, all of them I would give a 7-8/10 over superman, any other hulk besides maestro, superman would basically get a high majority. The reason I give them majorities is due to the fact that superman have fallen on too many of occasions by villian that isnt even physically compared to the hulk and has also been one shotted numerous of times by people that dont possess the hulks strength. Not only was wwh strength increased but as it was stated in the arc, his speed and his durability was increased to high levels.

can you name villains that have one shotted superman consistently?

and even with hulk's speed upgrade, superman's is still insanely higher than almost any other character...

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
You should tell Fearofgecko this before he starts making more threads like this.

any threads will either be closed or merged with this one...

also, for any doubts about superman's speed in comparison to that of the flash, well, there was a flash comic not long before the crisis, somewhere in between 200-220, where wally has just had his marriage go down the crapper, and his identity made secret again by the spectre... so the jla wants answers off of wally, but wally wants to find his wife, so wally zooms off, and superman decides to chase him...

wally zooms around the entire world with superman chasing him, and superman keeps up... both men are travelling so fast that when superman tried to use heat vision, wally is moving too fast to be caught by it... clark STILL keeps up with him speedwise though...

can wally go faster than clark? of course, but wally was moving pretty damn fast on earth, and superman stayed with him almost the entire time...

Originally posted by Raoul
cyclops' blast doesnt have heat, i was referring to superman's blast...

You know more about Scott than I do, and I know his blasts are described as realeasing concussive force rather than heat, however, if they absorb energy from sunlight shouldn't they dispell some form of heat?

Originally posted by nimbus006
You know more about Scott than I do, and I know his blasts are described as realeasing concussive force rather than heat, however, if they absorb energy from sunlight shouldn't they dispell some form of heat?

but thats the thing, his blasts arent composed of solar energy...

his eyes are a dimensional gateway to a universe that consists of nothing but the energy that comes from his eyes... the sunlight just powers the gateway...

its kinda screwy, but i like it... 😛

Originally posted by Raoul
but thats the thing, his blasts arent composed of solar energy...

his eyes are a dimensional gateway to a universe that consists of nothing but the energy that comes from his eyes... the sunlight just powers the gateway...

its kinda screwy, but i like it... 😛

So essentially, sunlight powers the mechanism, but is not the source of the energy/beam, correct?

Originally posted by nimbus006
So essentially, sunlight powers the mechanism, but is not the source of the energy/beam, correct?

bingo.

he can actually absorb other types of energy, just on a small scale, and he even absorbs ambient energy too... sunlight is just the primary source...

Originally posted by Raoul
bingo.

he can actually absorb other types of energy, just on a small scale, and he even absorbs ambient energy too... sunlight is just the primary source...

Interesting, leaves plenty of room for speculation regarding his power levels. 😖hifty:

world war hulk 6/10 imo.

superman's vast array of powers would only fuel the hulk's rage, and after a while superman will only be wearing out and the hulk powering up(getting increasingly more durable, stronger, and radioactive)

Originally posted by carver9
So basically we throw out whats been happening in comics for decades and create superman into a flash or zoom character. We basically use our imagination in debating instead of on panel proof. Ok well since we're doing that, when wolverine fights the thing, I dont think thing would land not a single blow. When gladiator fights wonder woman or superman I think his full confidence would boost him up to pre crisis level including his speed and he blitz them breaking there necks in a instant. I think that silver surfer would turn intagible his entire fight with superman and superman wont be able to land not one lick and since surfer has absorb the sun before I think superman heat vision would power him up to levels that superman hasnt seen yet in dc.

On panel proof out the window, imagination in the door.

Originally posted by jks
...which is probably why this board is made fun of so much..

Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk was taking on Sentry who released more power than he ever had before. His healing factor makes his durability better. Supes has him on speed but then again so did Sentry. How did that turn out? 😬

Superman can be downed to a lucky punch by someone such as Kalibak. Are you really claiming that Kalibak is stronger than the Hulk let alone WW Hulk?

WW Hulk takes everything Supes throws at him ans beats him senseless. He wouldnt need a lucky punch.

Sentry is no Superman and he wasn't using his speed against Hulk either. He was having a casual conversation with him.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
No problem with your opinions. Feel free to laugh if it makes you feel better.

But WWH is actually more durable in a conflict:
1. Regular Hulk is just under superman in durability. close but Superman is a little harder to penetrate.
2. Regular Hulk has a thing called regeneration that is beyond Wolverines.
3. Regular Hulk gets amps in regeneration, strength, and durability due to rage levels.

Just under Superman Durabilty+Deadpool Regen (at base levels) = Savage Hulk is actually more durable over time...just as he gets physically stronger and more destructive than Superman over time.

Thats just Savage Hulk.
Add to that we are talking about WWH here and there's really nothing to discuss.

1. Superman is much more durable than any Hulk, even WWH. He was pierced, cut and bloodied by the likes of the new X-Men, She Hulk and Thing. They wouldn't leave a mark on Supes. Hell Hulk's arms were immobilised by knifes.
2. Superman has a thing called regeneration.
3. Superman can get amped in regeneration due to the sun. Whenever he feels like it he could give himself a boost. Not that it matters because before Hulk even knows what's going on Superman has torn his head off.

Originally posted by jks
...which is probably why this board is made fun of so much..

Nah, he just deserves to be on my ignore list instead, I stopped laughing at him long ago.

Originally posted by jks
...which is probably why this board is made fun of so much..

The board is probably made fun off due to dozens of socks and senseless fanboys.

Originally posted by The Pict
No need Flash 10/10

Originally posted by Raoul

knock yourself out...

hehehe....😈

Originally posted by The Pict
Sentry is no Superman and he wasn't using his speed against Hulk either. He was having a casual conversation with him.

1. Superman is much more durable than any Hulk, even WWH. He was pierced, cut and bloodied by the likes of the new X-Men, She Hulk and Thing. They wouldn't leave a mark on Supes. Hell Hulk's arms were immobilised by knifes.
2. Superman has a thing called regeneration.
3. Superman can get amped in regeneration due to the sun. Whenever he feels like it he could give himself a boost. Not that it matters because before Hulk even knows what's going on Superman has torn his head off.

Who cares if something can pierce the Hulks skin? He healed from it instanlty and it had no lasting effect. I mean if you cut me and it cant put me down what does it prove especially when I can totally heal from it as if I havent even been scratched. What happened to all of these mutants? Did the beat the Hulk or did he beat them? I mean how can you use something as evidence if Hulk stomped them all.

Do you honestly think a lucky Kalibak punch could knock the WW Hulk senseless? Do you think Cyborg with the sinestro rings could pwn him in three punches?

You really think Superman can tear his head off? Are you being serious here? When has the Hulk had his head torn off? WW Hulk had his neck broken when he was weakened and recovered from that. The best they could in a well organized attack is break a weakened WW Hulk's neck to which he later totally recovered.

Superman boosted himself with a sun amp and couldnt even beat WW who was holding back. WW Hulk at his most powerful was at the end of the book and his mere footsteps were taking out the eastern seaboard. Superman dies no question about it.

Gladiator has a weakness to radiation that Hulk puts out.

k, everyone, stop going to extremes here, theses characters aren't THAT far apart so a 10/10 victory series is dubious at best.

and quan, dude chill...your just going to attract more attention to yourself that may lead to a ban, especially in this thread.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
k, everyone, stop going to extremes here, theses characters aren't THAT far apart so a 10/10 victory series is dubious at best.

Actually, they're very far apart....Hulk can't fly or shoot lasers through his eyes.

Originally posted by Soljer
The only right answer. 👆.

Supes fanmoron.

I agree but you don't have to be such a fanboy about it.

And you ALWAYS say SUPES WINS!!!!!

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Actually, they're very far apart....Hulk can't fly or shoot lasers through his eyes.

✅ Couldn't just melt someone on Earth from space if he felt like it.