Originally posted by psycho gundamSuperman couldnt put the citizens in harms way just to try and blast the Hulk from space. Like his heat vision is that fast anyways from space and like the Hulk cant avoid it. 🙂
wouldn't work on this hulk, plus the planet under him would be in more danger from that attack than he ever would.
Originally posted by quanchi112i wouldn't go that far. i was thinking after the space heat vision thing, he would fly down to check for a corpse amidst all the smoke from the heat only to catch a green fist in the mouth. then they start fighting.
Superman couldnt put the citizens in harms way just to try and blast the Hulk from space. Like his heat vision is that fast anyways from space and like the Hulk cant avoid it. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Why didnt he fight Doomsday in hunter and prey from space then?When has he done this?
Well it was the other way round, he fired his beams into space from Earth and dazzled those on the moon.
And in Virtue and Vice he was talking to Sentinel outside the JLA watchtower (on the moon) and spotted and heard a supervillian attacking Lex Luthor in Africa. He'd have no problem taking Hulk out from a distance.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman couldnt put the citizens in harms way just to try and blast the Hulk from space. Like his heat vision is that fast anyways from space and like the Hulk cant avoid it. 🙂
I doubt Hulk has the speed to avoid anything Superman throws at him, he took out an entire hillside of Doomsday clones with one blast of his heat vision iirc. And you actually think that if Superman is in space about to fire on him Hulk would know.... 😂
Originally posted by Badabing
Superman has running, flight and combat speed feats. So much that it's part of his power set and within KMC rules with regards to fighting at peak. Ignoring facts that you don't like doesn't change a thing.
Originally posted by darthgooberHal and Surfer BFR far less than Superman and Flash Speed blitz.
I understand what you're saying and I agree, but we DO need to set some kind of actual standard on the matter because it seems like speed is the only thing we ignore consistency on around here. We see people say that Supes or Flash win 10/10 against the Hulk via speedblitz all the time, but how often do we see people say that Surfer or Hal beat Supes 10/10 via BFR... never. I can handle either standard as long as it's consistent, but speedblitzing shouldn't be the only effect that nets people 10/10 in a forum fight.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Hal and Surfer BFR far less than Superman and Flash Speed blitz.
Originally posted by darthgooberWe are working on it. It's difficult when there are so many variables and showings. I think the current system works well but there are too many arguments over what happens in comics vs what happens on KMC. I'll be PMing our most respectable posters to get input. For now we're focusing on people who are contrary without providing proof or using low showings or out of context scans. Feel free to PM me with any input though.
I understand what you're saying and I agree, but we DO need to set some kind of actual standard on the matter because it seems like speed is the only thing we ignore consistency on around here. We see people say that Supes or Flash win 10/10 against the Hulk via speedblitz all the time, but how often do we see people say that Surfer or Hal beat Supes 10/10 via BFR... never. I can handle either standard as long as it's consistent, but speedblitzing shouldn't be the only effect that nets people 10/10 in a forum fight.
Originally posted by darthgoober
And if we take how often Superman and Flash speedblitz into consideration then we should take how often Hal and Surfer BFR into consideration also. But if we ignore how often Supes and the Flash blitz then the same standard should be applied to Surfer, Hal, Thor(concerning both the Godblast AND BFR), etc.
one can be bfr'd thru time freeze manip, teleportation, being trapped, etc. So more versatile characters might be hurt by any percentage standard. As a debator could, as I would, easily say, how many times has hal bfr'd someone using time?
Re: Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)
Originally posted by Raoul
Ok, as i said in the title, this is the official Superman Vs WWH thread... i'll merge any other that are needed, but i dont want to see any Superman vs wwh stuff outside this thread unless its team matches or under very different circumstances...
Fanboy mod has spoken!!! (typed actually)
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Gamma Radiation comes from the sun, Gladiator is immune to this form of energy, it was Achilles who had a problem with it.
Gladiator was weak to the radiation that came from the nuclear reactor, which the Hulk shoved him into, hence him flying out in agony and getting shit stomped.
Sentry has vast amounts of speed over the Hulk, if anyone cared to check out his respect thread, it shows how fast he is. In turn Sentry was unable to speed blitz King Hulk.
Superman's heat vision is stated as being hotter than the sun, then again lightining arcs are as well. King Hulk withstood both Storms lightning barrage coupled with Johnny Storms (Human Torch's) Nova Blast, and with ease.
Hulk took a dip in lava while on Sakar with little effect to him, while in an enraged state. He was able to keep a planet from ripping apart by casually shifitng a tectonic plate (a feat that trumps his mountain stint in Secret Wars).
My point is this, neither of these heros will be winning this with ease, Superman isn't ripping the Hulks head off, and the Hulk won't be crushing Superman's arms like he easilly did to Colossus'.
Superman could bfr the Hulk, while the Hulk could outfight Superman.
Depending on how the battle plays out, this could go either way. Only an ignorant person would say that either wins in an instant.
Many have chosen to ignore some of the hulks more exotic and uncanny abilities such as his ability to home in on things while being completely blind, or his ability to battle astral beings, to that of his ability to toughen up under extreme condition, as Wolverine pointed out.
The Hulk is incredibly tough to beat, and a battle between him and Superman would likely end the was it did when Superman first battled Doomsday.
5/10 split.
Originally posted by fangirl101
There is also the question of the different tactics of an option. A speed blitz is a speed blitz.one can be bfr'd thru time freeze manip, teleportation, being trapped, etc. So more versatile characters might be hurt by any percentage standard. As a debator could, as I would, easily say, how many times has hal bfr'd someone using time?
But I don't want to derail the thread by starting a massive debate over the rules so I'll let the matter drop for now and just get to work on my suggestions.
Originally posted by The PictIn a forum fight where he knows he is facing Superman he knows.
Well it was the other way round, he fired his beams into space from Earth and dazzled those on the moon.
And in Virtue and Vice he was talking to Sentinel outside the JLA watchtower (on the moon) and spotted and heard a supervillian attacking Lex Luthor in Africa. He'd have no problem taking Hulk out from a distance.I doubt Hulk has the speed to avoid anything Superman throws at him, he took out an entire hillside of Doomsday clones with one blast of his heat vision iirc. And you actually think that if Superman is in space about to fire on him Hulk would know.... 😂