Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Onedumb: He did not stalemate Juggs. He knew he would lose. Hence, the BFR. He was able to briefly hold his own against Juggernaut. HE WAS BEING PUSHED BACK HOWEVER.
Incorrect he didnt want to fight him because he just came for Xavier and Juggs was wasting his time.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
So then since WWH stalemated classic Juggernaut, to the point of denting his armor and halting his advance, and he wasn't even close to his angriest at that point during 'World War Hulk,' you must believe that Supes won't be able to beat WWH that way either. But that Superman can BFR him and WWH won't be able to touch him. Correct?
My opinion, Supes beats WWH 10/10 in a all out fight and neither of them would be able to touch Supes. Juggernaut has better durability than WWH but WWH has that insane HF. Like I said imo and only I can change it.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Onedumb: He did not stalemate Juggs. He knew he would lose.
SUPREMELY FALSE!!. The hulk did not BFR jugs because he knew he would lose but because jugs was not his main aim. Hence the reason he said " i dont have all day". The fight with jugs had no relevance to hulks main aim of coming to earth. The hulk does not go into fights thinking he will lose, why do you think he always says 'The strongest one there is"
Originally posted by ultimatethor
SUPREMELY FALSE!!. The hulk did not BFR jugs because he knew he would lose but because jugs was not his main aim. Hence the reason he said " i dont have all day".
So he knew he wouldn't beat Juggs, he knew the fight would last at least all day.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
why do you think he always says 'The strongest one there is"
Savage Hulk? Why he always says it? Because he is as stuppid as one can be.
Both have pretty much unending strength, though I would say, this is would be the one case where Hulk's inconsistant up and down strength as opposed to Superman, who is nearly constantly the 'strongest one there is', and climbs higher at will, would prove to make Hulk a much more dangerous threat because in WWH, he was just a beast the entire conflict. Rather than just manning up to do a simple task and reverting back to 'regular' strength levels.
But as for the battle itself, while this Hulk certainly has the strength to do the job- Superman still has too many other abilities to account for, and while we've seen Superman knocked by brutes, those are often for story purposes - we've witnessed Superman's incredible combat speed and certainly hand speed[catching fists, bullets or any projectiles from many trajetorys at once] too many times, to believe that fighting at his optimum by forum rules, that Hulk would land the neccisary blows to down the Kryptonian.
Hulk is still a one trick pony at the end of the day, leaving the ball entirely in Superman's court..
Originally posted by Juntai
[BHulk is still a one trick pony at the end of the day, leaving the ball entirely in Superman's court.. [/B]
Sort of like Lex Luthor does....? 😕 How can a guy so "powerful" and "intelligent" not keep tabs on a regular human?...much less allow him to constantly threaten him and a regular basis thoughout his history? Obviously he could do away with Luthor, but he doesn't due to his character's respect of life and laws for even his enemies.
If Superman fights WWH the way he usually ALWAYS has against his usual brawlers (Mongul, Grundy, DD, Graak) he definitely gets pwned.
And a character having limitless constantly growing Strength, HF, Speed, Endurance along with Durabilty is hardly what I would call a "one-trick pony."
Based on fight history - Superman will do exactly what he usually does in every fight. Talk a bit, try to utilized HV and FB, find it completely useless and go toe to toe to extert his physical superiority. This will be his undoing vs World War Hulk...unless he realizes the futility and flies away for a stalemate.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Sort of like Lex Luthor does....? 😕 How can a guy so "powerful" and "intelligent" not keep tabs on a regular human?...much less allow him to constantly threaten him and a regular basis thoughout his history? Obviously he could do away with Luthor, but he doesn't due to his character's respect of life and laws for even his enemies.If Superman fights WWH the way he usually ALWAYS has against his usual brawlers (Mongul, Grundy, DD, Graak) he definitely gets pwned.
And a character having limitless constantly growing Strength, HF, Speed, Endurance along with Durabilty is hardly what I would call a "one-trick pony."
Based on fight history - Superman will do exactly what he usually does in every fight. Talk a bit, try to utilized HV and FB, find it completely useless and go toe to toe to extert his physical superiority. This will be his undoing vs World War Hulk...unless he realizes the futility and flies away for a stalemate.
No, Superman seeing World Breaker is endangering people will do what he did to Doomsday or the Imperiex Probes, he will fight clever, fast and with superior strength. He will annihilate Hulk.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No, Superman seeing World Breaker is endangering people will do what he did to Doomsday or the Imperiex Probes, he will fight clever, fast and with superior strength. He will annihilate Hulk.
Lex has probably endangered more people in Superman's lifetime than anyone in history. Brilliant indeed.
Originally posted by RaoulHere is why I have come to my conclusions. Ok I am sure you will disagree.
thinking he can't is clear bias, if you've read half the superman stuff you claim to...
WW Hulk wasnt beaten by anyone physically. He has tons of strength feats that WW Hulk surpassed by the nature of the story. So we get include all his feats and assume he is stronger than anything we have previously seen beforehand.
At the end of the story he was a lot more dangerous than the WW Hulk who terrorized marvel earth. I mean before he was this pissed off he almost halted the juggernaut? That is very impressive is it not? This was done before the end of the book as well. Anything Superman throws at him he will heal from and recover from almost immediately. I have seen Superman get decimated before physically. I havent seen WW Hulk get decimated before.
To me the strongest version of the Hulk beats Superman at normal levels hands down.
Again how can you think Superman beats him physically if no one has in ww Hulk?
Originally posted by Air LegendI do hate Superman. I dont lie about who I like and who I dislike. I give Superman the credit I believe he deserves. Hes one tough cookie.
Do you like hate Superman?I mean at times I do because so many people on this forum cockwank him, but after watching some classic Supe clips on youtube and ignoring the cockwanking, I know that Supes curbstomps WWH.
You should try watching some clips, or even the entire movie again. It might get you back in the spirit, if ya know what I mean. 😉
But WW Hulk has him beat physically hands down imo.
This isnt the movie version its the comic book version. Huge difference.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Here is why I have come to my conclusions. Ok I am sure you will disagree.WW Hulk wasnt beaten by anyone physically. He has tons of strength feats that WW Hulk surpassed by the nature of the story. So we get include all his feats and assume he is stronger than anything we have previously seen beforehand.
At the end of the story he was a lot more dangerous than the WW Hulk who terrorized marvel earth. I mean before he was this pissed off he almost halted the juggernaut? That is very impressive is it not? This was done before the end of the book as well. Anything Superman throws at him he will heal from and recover from almost immediately. I have seen Superman get decimated before physically. I havent seen WW Hulk get decimated before.
To me the strongest version of the Hulk beats Superman at normal levels hands down.
Again how can you think Superman beats him physically if no one has in ww Hulk?
cos he didn't fight superman.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So he knew he wouldn't beat Juggs, he knew the fight would last at least all day.Savage Hulk? Why he always says it? Because he is as stuppid as one can be.
How are knowing the fight would take long and knowing you cannot beat someone evn related?
And as i suspected u missed the whole point. Me talking about what the hulk says was to describe his confidence when fighting other people.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Your opinion mine differs.
I think that Superman is still physically far superior to the World Breaker. Hulk is bigger, has more muscles, but that's all 🙂.
This is simply ridiculous. Based on feats superman is not evn far superior to savage hulk strengthwise ( if superior at all). Worldbreaker hulk was millions of times stronger than regular WW hulk let alone savage hulk. Regular supes was notevn on his level strengthwise unless u consider regular supes to be millions of times stronger than WWhulk
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Lex has probably endangered more people in Superman's lifetime than anyone in history. Brilliant indeed.
Superman has a whole planet and usually alot more to protect most of the time. He can't keep an eye on everything Luthor does. 😬
Not to mention Hulk can take a few hits, Supes is likely to kill Luthor if he gets physical with him.
And comparing most incarnations of Doomsday to Hulk= dur .