Originally posted by Starscream M
he built a city in mere moments...an entire city...from bricks and stuff...that is like a FTL speedblitz x 100 in impressiveness
Thats not proving that he can blitz at light speed and how long did they say in that panel that superman took to build that city. What time did it give, did it say 3 seconds, seconds, please tell me so I can get in my mind how fast he was going during that time.
Originally posted by Unnatural-POWERSupes will be hitting the WW Hulk but it wont be doing any significant damage at all. Thats the point friend. He will heal and it wont even phase him imo.
He wont find one, because to my knowledge, such a statement doesn't
exist, but why does Superman need lightspeed to lay a punch on the Hulk?
Originally posted by carver9it was mere moments...I would say under an hour
Thats not proving that he can blitz at light speed and how long did they say in that panel that superman took to build that city. What time did it give, did it say 3 seconds, seconds, please tell me so I can get in my mind how fast he was going during that time.
the feat requires millions of men working for years...superman did it in under an hour
that is FTL Speedblitz for ya
Originally posted by darthgoober
Again, that's your interpretation, I'm sure Hulk's fans choose to interpret the scan differently. I'm not saying that their interpretation is correct and yours is wrong or that Hulk wins this fight, but it's no one else's job to prove you wrong.See it goes like this, if you want to say that Hulk goes down in the first seconds from Supes then here's the evidence you're going to need to produce to support your claim...
1. A scan indicating the "in character" blitzing speed of Supes against characters who's reflexes are equal to or superior to Hulk's.
2. A scan indicating just how effective Superman level punches are against someone with WWH's level of durability.Then if your opponents then want to claim that Hulk can react they're going to have to produce...
1. A scan of Hulk reacting to someone moving as quickly as the Supes blitz that YOU provided.
2. Scan's indicating that Hulk can whether punches from someone with Superman level strength until he DOES manage to tag Supes......and then the process just goes back and forth with each of you countering the other's points with proof until someone lacks proof to support their claims(that person's typically the loser of the debate).
If only everyone debated this way ✅
Originally posted by carver9
prove to me that superman can blitz at light speed. Show me a fight where it indicated that superman blitzed someone at light speed.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/Superman/Supermanv2172pg13.jpg
This is an Imperiex Probe, mid herald - high herald in marvel terms 😘
See, it's like an statue, you see superman there, not once, this is the combat speed he would use against WWH. WWH wouldn't even notice what hit him 😉.
Originally posted by The PictSentry does have that power over the Hulk. He chooses to believe thats why Hulk turned into a human. I mean the moment he got angry again he became more powerful than ever before. So he can back it up imo. Not that I myself subscribe to this but its all interpretation. If Hulk never changed back youd have an argument but he did change back and in fact he was even stronger.
The Hulk side includes horrowolf who just makes things up even when it's pointed out that they weren't actually contained in the comic. He even went on to say that Sentry HAD to be using his "calming abilities" because he had them in his powerset and that he HAD to be using them because Reed couldn't replicate them.And we are bringing up decent evidence against Hulk which is being soundly ignored.
Which evidence again? There has been a lot thrown around so refresh me?
Originally posted by quanchi112The Hulk side is actually bringing up things while the Superman side is basically saying Superman is more powerful and thats that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes will be hitting the WW Hulk but it wont be doing any significant damage at all. Thats the point friend. He will heal and it wont even phase him imo.
Well done "bringing things up" one of DC's most powerful characters will do no significant damage against a character who was bloodied by the New X-Men.
Was "phased" by the likes of Strong Guy, Emma Frost and Colossus, but not Superman.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeHe said prove light speed not a speed blitz.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/Superman/Supermanv2172pg13.jpgThis is an Imperiex Probe, mid herald - high herald in marvel terms 😘
See, it's like an statue, you see superman there, not once, this is the combat speed he would use against WWH. WWH wouldn't even notice what hit him 😉.
These punches would have no effect imo on WW Hulk.
WW Hulk would notice what hit him and would eventually get his mitts on Supes.
At least you kinda admit that Supes has to avoid him to have a chance.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He said prove light speed not a speed blitz.These punches would have no effect imo on WW Hulk.
WW Hulk would notice what hit him and would eventually get his mitts on Supes.
At least you kinda admit that Supes has to avoid him to have a chance.
Look the other scan I posted, where he takes DD punches and doesn't even flinch, I just showed that his combat speed is beyond Hulks, his invulnerability too, hell he was crushed by two planets, and his strength even more. Hulk goes KO by an broken neck, he would surely die by an ripped off head 😉
Originally posted by quanchi112Which evidence again? There has been a lot thrown around so refresh me?
This thread is over 50 pages long, I'm tired of going back and forward to find the evidence which I've been doing a lot of tonight. Look for yourself.
I'm sure you'll see all the scans that've posted by those debating for Superman while noting a lack of scans or decent evidence made by the Hulk debaters.
Originally posted by Juntai
Fact is, he doesn't need to go lightspeed per-se, or are we denying the fact that Superman is vastly faster than Hulk, and has often been shown to be able to move at speeds comparable and sometimes faster characters are unable to react to?Funny, I said this earlier in the thread.
I'll even give an example;
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/week01-2000-Superman_V2-152-04.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/week01-2000-Superman_V2-152-05.jpgSuperman and Hulk's strenght feat are comparable to most, some feel one way, some feel another. In a typical showing though, I feel Superman IS the stronger character, while Hulk amps in bursts, based on anger, then returns to a 'standard' level. Granted, that isn't -this- Hulk, who starts out really strong, however Superman starts out strong too, and has strength equally as dynamic.
Originally posted by The PictWhat does it matter if WW Hulk bleeds. He heals and he wrecked these teams. He took a BBolt whisper(skrull)whatever that would have taken out a state and was fine.
Well done "bringing things up" one of DC's most powerful characters will do no significant damage against a character who was bloodied by the New X-Men.
Was "phased" by the likes of Strong Guy, Emma Frost and Colossus, but not Superman.
So again WW Hulk won so why bring up Hulk feats. He won while Supes has been dizzied by a lucky Kalibak punch,raped by three Cyborg punches,destroyed by Doomsday twice,oneshotted by Konvikt.
Those are losses while you are bringing up times Hulk has bled. I think all the of times Supes lost here he didnt bleed a drop.
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Originally posted by Starscream M
it was mere moments...I would say under an hourthe feat requires millions of men working for years...superman did it in under an hour
that is FTL Speedblitz for ya
Im going to show you something and I hope you get a understanding of what Im asking for. ON PANEL its states that gladiator is blitzing at the speed of light.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7296/hyperspeed11mv.jpg
ON PANEL it say that gladiator has the strength to move planets and collapse stars with his bare hands.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/SheHulk70076.jpg
Now show me something that indicate that superman can blitz at the speed of light. I found it for gladiator and who has been out longer, him or superman.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/Superman/Supermanv2172pg13.jpgThis is an Imperiex Probe, mid herald - high herald in marvel terms 😘
See, it's like an statue, you see superman there, not once, this is the combat speed he would use against WWH. WWH wouldn't even notice what hit him 😉.
and you do know that wonder woman mother ran circles around a imperex probe. You do know that black lightning who has no speed was stalemating a imperex probe. You do know that doomsday and superman was one shotting imperex probes. Theres nothing to indicate that they are even close in power to a herald.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeHulk was weakened first and depowered momentarily to break his neck. Supes doesnt have his hands on anything to weaken the Hulk. It was also a careful orchestrated strike on the Hulk by a team.
Look the other scan I posted, where he takes DD punches and doesn't even flinch, I just showed that his combat speed is beyond Hulks, his invulnerability too, hell he was crushed by two planets, and his strength even more. Hulk goes KO by an broken neck, he would surely die by an ripped off head 😉
Who was crushed by two planets?
Hulk can surely ko Supes if Kalibak can and he wont need a lucky punch.
Originally posted by carver9😂 👆
and you do know that wonder woman mother ran circles around a imperex probe. You do know that black lightning who has no speed was stalemating a imperex probe. You do know that doomsday and superman was one shotting imperex probes. Theres nothing to indicate that they are even close in power to a herald.
Originally posted by carver9ON PANEL it say that gladiator has the strength to move planets and collapse stars with his bare hands.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/SheHulk70076.jpg
Though in reality it's just a scan of Gladiator getting punched in the face.
