I didn't ignore it. I seem to recall saying "Even if he hasn't shown it" which means I acknowledged what you said. WWH has went up & defeated basically everyone, and no one has shown themselves to be on his level. Superman has, as stated before, got his face cracked a hell of a lot by people who aren't even on WWH's level.
Originally posted by Joe_FixitAd ignorantiam. He's gone up against a number of marvel characters... bt none of which could go up against superman themselves. Or beaten them in ways that required a plot device or just plain PIS...
I didn't ignore it. I seem to recall saying "Even if he hasn't shown it" which means I acknowledged what you said. WWH has went up & defeated basically everyone, and no one has shown themselves to be on his level.
Originally posted by Joe_FixitActually WWH hasn't done anyhting to show himself being on THEIR level...
Superman has, as stated before, got his face cracked a hell of a lot by people who aren't even on WWH's level.
Its the stolen concept fallacy and begging the question. You're using your own conclusion as evidence for your argument.. so its circular reasoning fallacy as well...
Nothing but violations of the rules of logic.
creshok your arguments arent proving anything. People have put up scan for scan showing that superman can easily be physically beaten but yet again you fail to realize it due you thinking that someone is trolling over superman. Thats the only way you handle things is by reporting people when you cant prove nothing. It wasnt any reporting until your crying a** came in here.
Prove that superman can BLITZ at light speed. With my post with gladiator at least it had a closer demonstration of a almost light speed blitz then anything that you have proven. Show me a scan of superman blitzing at light speed then maybe youll convince someone that your post mean something. Of course you'll think that superman would win, hell you made his respect thread.
By the way, people love bringing up the sentry fight, like sentry was weaker then superman or something. If we basically look at the power that sentry was generating during this fight, anyone would know that sentry> superman.
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and hulk was right in the middle of it taking it with no problem.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Which he never showed during the WWH series... Is that sinking in, or do I have to say that Superman has a gamma nullifying power as well... Never showed it, but obviously he has it.Actually its not a point so much as an ad ignorantiam fallacy. Its not so much a point as it is a violation of the rules of logic.
Which is a begging the question fallacy.
You'd also need to prove how the other person's strength compares to WWH inorder to prove your point. beyond that its a stolen concept fallacy as well.
Oh I know, how about if I show an 8 year old beating the hulk whom waded through the heroes that he fought in WWH? Would that sink in that an 8 year old could beat world war hulk?
No it isnt. We use comic scans to prove points. There are no scans out there that prove WW Hulk can be beaten physically by a top tier.
Neither Zod nor Kalibak nor Kovnikt nor Cyborh have the strength feats to match with Hulk's. Not a one of them but if you feel different prove it please.
The rest of your post is speculation and another what if scenario that never happened on panel so it has no place here.
Originally posted by Prime#Point is Supes has been ko'd by far less than what WW Hulk went through.
So by that logic, if they haven't bin KO'ed, they can't be KO'ed?
WW Hulk soloed basically marvel earth while Supes gets beat by fighting two weaker characters than himself at a time. He also has been oneshotted. He also has had his jaw broke in one punch. I use what the comics give me as evidence and it all points to WW Hulk beating the crap out of Superman as so many other characters have done so.
Originally posted by CreshoskSo if anyone thinks WW Hulk wins this thread then they are automatically a fanboy? Again prove Superman is stronger than the WW Hulk or that he can endure all the crap WW Hulk did in his storyline?
Oh, you're that kind of fanboy.You're dismissed.
I have a question for you could Zod have broken WW Hulk's jaw with the same punch that he nailed Superman with?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Reported for trolling.
Please, as if I'm worried. Get over yourself. You could just as easily get a warning for using fanboy as an insult. 😂
And I'm not trolling at all, I just would like to know how I'm suddenly a fanboy. WWH has gone up against & beaten nearly everyone with ease and has yet to fall. Tell me the last time Superman won fights back to back to back to back (recently, that is). 😉
Originally posted by quanchi112Argumentum ad ignorantiam. Some of us also like to use logic to prove out points as well as scans... which you clearly do not.
No it isnt. We use comic scans to prove points. There are no scans out there that prove WW Hulk can be beaten physically by a top tier.
Originally posted by quanchi112😆 No ,you're claiming that Hulk is greater than them hecne your scans that were up before hand. Until you prove that Hulk is greater than them they can't be used as evidence.
Neither Zod nor Kalibak nor Kovnikt nor Cyborh have the strength feats to match with Hulk's. Not a one of them but if you feel different prove it please.
Its that logic thing again.. which you don't seem to want to use.
Originally posted by quanchi112What the eight year old beating hulk? Sure it did. It was in power pack and the Hulk #4
The rest of your post is speculation and another what if scenario that never happened on panel so it has no place here.
Originally posted by quanchi112Prove it. 🙂 You can't just aautomatically assume the level of the feat as being less then without quantification. Thou I love how you dismissed the rest of my post as speculation. Its not speculation, its pointing out how your arguments are invalid due to them violating the stated rules.
Point is Supes has been ko'd by far less than what WW Hulk went through.
Originally posted by quanchi112[ And you have proof about their power level compared to the marvel characters that hulk beat?
WW Hulk soloed basically marvel earth while Supes gets beat by fighting two weaker characters than himself at a time.
If I beat someone like you in a fight, that automatically means I can beat a heavyweight boxer who lost to another boxer in his wegiht category?
Me beating YOU has no bearing on my ability or lack of ability to beat another person. Same here. Hulk beat characters other than Zod. its an ABC ad hoc argument which isn't valid.
Originally posted by quanchi112you also use faulty logic. .you're like the michael moore of KMC. though the imagery he shows is true, his arguments are not because of his poor interpritation of the data.
He also has been oneshotted. He also has had his jaw broke in one punch. I use what the comics give me as evidence and it all points to WW Hulk beating the crap out of Superman as so many other characters have done so.
Again. until you prove how Zod and the others compare to the others that hulk beat, they have no bearing on this fight.
Though there was an 8 year old that beat the hulk. hmm
Originally posted by quanchi112No, but implying that Superman as a character Is PIS does. Especially the lack of knowledge of the difference between pre and post crisis superman.
So if anyone thinks WW Hulk wins this thread then they are automatically a fanboy?
Originally posted by quanchi112Pssh.. Double black hole.. If you think that that isn't as much as what hulk went through, then you're sorely deluded.
Again prove Superman is stronger than the WW Hulk or that he can endure all the crap WW Hulk did in his storyline?
Originally posted by quanchi112*shrugs* I'm not the one that has to prove that Hulk could take a punch from Zod. as I'm not the one that's using Zod as evidence.. not my job to do your work for you.
I have a question for you could Zod have broken WW Hulk's jaw with the same punch that he nailed Superman with?
See:
Originally posted by Joe_Fixit
You're talking about a guy who once regularly moved planets.
Not to mention that he doesn't even read them just goes off of what he's heard:
Originally posted by Joe_Fixit
I've been following up by asking people what's happened recently. If there was a comic book shop around here, I'd be able to purchase comics more often.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No it isnt. We use comic scans to prove points. There are no scans out there that prove WW Hulk can be beaten physically by a top tier.Neither Zod nor Kalibak nor Kovnikt nor Cyborh have the strength feats to match with Hulk's. Not a one of them but if you feel different prove it please.
The rest of your post is speculation and another what if scenario that never happened on panel so it has no place here.
Point is Supes has been ko'd by far less than what WW Hulk went through.WW Hulk soloed basically marvel earth while Supes gets beat by fighting two weaker characters than himself at a time. He also has been oneshotted. He also has had his jaw broke in one punch. I use what the comics give me as evidence and it all points to WW Hulk beating the crap out of Superman as so many other characters have done so.
Taking it to Superman and winning even for awhile>>>Everything Hulk has done. doped
As for that "event that never happened on panel:
Originally posted by Creshosk
WWH would have ended much sooner if they'd just dropped an 8 year old on him.Owned by an 8 year old.
She also accomplished what Sentry couldn't
Seems like someone was quick to try and dismiss it any way he could even without knowing what was being refered to...
Heh... That's pretty sad Quan, even for you.
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, but implying that Superman as a character Is PIS does. Especially the lack of knowledge of the difference between pre and post crisis superman.Pssh.. Double black hole.. If you think that that isn't as much as what hulk went through, then you're sorely deluded.
*shrugs* I'm not the one that has to prove that Hulk could take a punch from Zod. as I'm not the one that's using Zod as evidence.. not my job to do your work for you.
See:
He says that post crisis superman could once do what precrisis superman did.
Not to mention that he doesn't even read them just goes off of what he's heard:
I was referring to the Red Hulk. Such idiocy in just one person. 😂 And even with me referring to Red Hulk, what's wrong with someone telling me what's happened play by play? It's not as if they'd make up an entire issue worth of events. Again, idiocy. 😂
i'm f*cking tired of the bullshit in this thread... people hate superman, fine, but the more i read the spew that comes from some people, the more i wish my head would explode so i wouldnt have to read it anymore...
people want to be assholes? fine, do it on another thread, in another forum, cos i'm not interested in listening to it...
closed, closed, damn closed...
You Marvel biased posters need to stop. Low balling feats and posting incomplete or out of context scans on a regular basis isn't how things work here. Debating whether a character speed blitzes 10/10 times is fine but ignoring powers and abilities is not. I've spoken to some of you more than once about this. Warnings and bannings will be dealt if this continues. There are a few people who make up a large percentage of the reports and complaints.
