Originally posted by xJLxKingto be honest, hulk's best feats are prior to world war hulk 😬 all that changed was hulk's base strength was always class 100+ even when "calm" and the fact that banner wasn't holding him back like he used to. all the feats savage hulk did and could achieve, the green scar should be able to replicate, with less stimulation and with better results since his intellect wasn't as lowered by hulk's persona. (hence hulk taking out various "fodder" characters without killing them)
And people should know just because Hulk did it once doesn't mean he'll do it again everytime. It takes time for Hulk to get to a specific point where he can re-do his feat.
but what feat are you talking about, "world breaker"? he did it again in a later issue when skaar mentioned ciara.
imo, savage hulk's memory is pretty shitty since he's not smart at all, but banner's memory is sharp as a knife. if he wanted to get mad and go "world breaker" on demand, i think he could do it if he wanted to, outside stimulous or not.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
to be honest, hulk's best feats are prior to world war hulk 😬 all that changed was hulk's base strength was always class 100+ even when "calm" and the fact that banner wasn't holding him back like he used to. all the feats savage hulk did and could achieve, the green scar should be able to replicate, with less stimulation and with better results since his intellect wasn't as lowered by hulk's persona. (hence hulk taking out various "fodder" characters without killing them)but what feat are you talking about, "world breaker"? he did it again in a later issue when skaar mentioned ciara.
imo, savage hulk's memory is pretty shitty since he's not smart at all, but banner's memory is sharp as a knife. if he wanted to get mad and go "world breaker" on demand, i think he could do it if he wanted to, outside stimulous or not.
The fact that Thor stalemated Hulk for hours on end prove that Hulk need anger to get stronger and do better feats.
hulk was gray when he did the asteroid thing iirc, and he wasn't that mad either as far as we can tell. 😬
but with that said, hulk did say that he could jump higher and faster with those springs on, but in later issues hulk achieved low orbit with a single jump anyway. king hulk should be able to at least replicate that feat as well and maybe surpass it if he wanted to.
Originally posted by Master CourtDoomsday is a bad comparision DD has the speed to keep up with Superman.
Well, WWHulk, while holding back, beat god-mode Sentry. Not saying Sentry's as powerful as Superman or anything. But nobody could beat WWHulk. What's more, when WWHulk stopped holding back and went World Breaker, albeit he was still holding back, he reached a level way above standard WWHulk, and way above standard Superman-level guys.World Breaker is mostly unbeatable, in my opinion. Based on Superman's performances against almost every Doomsday, Superman, even all out, wouldn't cut the mustard for even one victory against World Breaker. But god-mode Superman would very likely take a majority against standard WWHulk.
WWH against a superman taking the gloves is dead in the water.
superman all out will kill hulk , if someone like rockslide and beast could give WWH bloody lip and nose then a no mercy superman will punch hulk so fast and hard that after 10 seconds he will be a bloody pulp lying on the ground then superman just throws him into the space, superman will do to him the same thing he did to wolverine
if superman use his full speed and full strength? he will speed blitz hulk with a devastating punch one after another sandfing hulk flying then apear behind him in the air pounding him to the ground then drops feet first from the sky lands on hulk and continue to pound him so fast and hard then in a matter of 10 seconds he is dead
Lol I like all the Hulk bashing, when he's fought these superman-esque characters his entire career and isnt the worse for wear. Superman going all out as impressive as that sounds does not equate death incarnate. Its within hulks powerset to deal with characters like these, and Clark does not punch at ftl speeds.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Clark does not punch at ftl speeds.
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wtf was that suppose to prove, quicksilver does the same thing. Nowhere does it state FASTER THAN LIGHT
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Beating on Equus and parrying some attacks by Mongul Jr.
Hardly faster than light punches.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Lol I like all the Hulk bashing, when he's fought these superman-esque characters his entire career and isnt the worse for wear. Superman going all out as impressive as that sounds does not equate death incarnate. Its within hulks powerset to deal with characters like these, and Clark does not punch at ftl speeds.
even if that were true, he wouldn't need it. half lightspeed would do it, and he's more than capable of that.
and hulk hasn't fought superman esque characters his entire career. maybe poor imitations, but nothing like the real thing.
Originally posted by -Pr-
even if that were true, he wouldn't need it. half lightspeed would do it, and he's more than capable of that.and hulk hasn't fought superman esque characters his entire career. maybe poor imitations, but nothing like the real thing.
And Im not saying that gettin hit at that speed wouldnt be a good strategy, i just dont believe fisticuffs would put him down.
Do you consider Thor a poor imitation?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Lol I like all the Hulk bashing, when he's fought these superman-esque characters his entire career and isnt the worse for wear. Superman going all out as impressive as that sounds does not equate death incarnate. Its within hulks powerset to deal with characters like these, and Clark does not punch at ftl speeds.
But we have to assume that an "all-out" supes, is going to be fighting and moving at his max for as long as he is capable. On paper or - as we have it - e-space , Hulk shouldn't be able to hit - or see for that matter - superman.
How many of supermans best punches would it take to KO hulk?
If the answer is between 1 and 100 than how long would it take superman to deliver said blows?
Still , tis not a slugfest, how long does it take supes to fly out of our galaxy again? :/
Originally posted by Juk3n
But we have to assume that an "all-out" supes, is going to be fighting and moving at his max for as long as he is capable. On paper or - as we have it - e-space , Hulk shouldn't be able to hit - or see for that matter - superman.How many of supermans best punches would it take to KO hulk?
If the answer is between 1 and 100 than how long would it take superman to deliver said blows?Still , tis not a slugfest, how long does it take supes to fly out of our galaxy again? :/
I'm not debating that an aggressive, no-holds barred Clark Kent can't put a major dent in that green hide. I'm not that dense nor do I consider myself a fangirl. HOWEVER it will not be a walk in the park, it will be long and drawn out bout. With WWH or World Breaker (even though I wish people would stop using that term seeing as how he had 1 feat and everything else was speculated) giving as good as he gets. Also is Clark fighting crazy ala beserker Logan. Or is he just not "holding back" and using ice breath, heat vision, super speed, and super strength at the same time? That would help me chose a victor more wisely.
Superman:
For him:
- Fast, like, really fast
- Other power like Heath vision
- Can fly
- Heck of a durability
- Have some fighting skillz
Against him:
- Eventually, can tire
- Can die
Hulk:
For him:
- Potentielly the strongest of the two
- Ridiculous healing factor
- In the WWH personna, fine strategist
- Some fighting skillz
- Doesn't really tire
Against him:
- Much, much slower. Supersonic speed, but eh, the other dude is a Light speeder.
- Less resistant
- Can't fly: He can jump, fast, but that doesn't have the manoeuvrability of flying
What I see is that Superman can win, if he decide to finish the fight fast. Not because "OH NOES Hulk is at base power" bullshit. Even a "base power" Hulk is still enough to kick the ass of a shitload of 100+ characters. But Sups can surprises him with his speed, and use the fact that Hulk probably wouldn't know all about Sups at the start. Like: Charges him, and throwing as much punch as he can.
For sure, Sups can't kill Hulk. That's a fact, and I don't think it can be debated. But Sups can K.O. his big green ass.
However, if Sups decide to take his time, and playing it sadistic, he might get a bad surprise. Like I said above, Sups can tire, Hulk don't. Sups probably have one hell of cardio, but the other dude always come fresh after his HF start. So if Sups under-estimate Hulk, Hulk can maybe place the punch that will end the fight.
I say 9/10 Sups if he goes Bloodlusted and "Oh shit you are a menace that I must put down"
and 5/10 or lower for Sups if Sups goes "You hurted my friend so I'll make you suffer!"
