Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Superman:
For him:
- Fast, like, really fast
- Other power like Heath vision
- Can fly
- Heck of a durability
- Have some fighting skillz

Against him:
- Eventually, can tire
- Can die

Hulk:
For him:
- Potentielly the strongest of the two
- Ridiculous healing factor
- In the WWH personna, fine strategist
- Some fighting skillz
- Doesn't really tire

Against him:
- Much, much slower. Supersonic speed, but eh, the other dude is a Light speeder.
- Less resistant
- Can't fly: He can jump, fast, but that doesn't have the manoeuvrability of flying

What I see is that Superman can win, if he decide to finish the fight fast. Not because "OH NOES Hulk is at base power" bullshit. Even a "base power" Hulk is still enough to kick the ass of a shitload of 100+ characters. But Sups can surprises him with his speed, and use the fact that Hulk probably wouldn't know all about Sups at the start. Like: Charges him, and throwing as much punch as he can.

For sure, Sups can't kill Hulk. That's a fact, and I don't think it can be debated. But Sups can K.O. his big green ass.

However, if Sups decide to take his time, and playing it sadistic, he might get a bad surprise. Like I said above, Sups can tire, Hulk don't. Sups probably have one hell of cardio, but the other dude always come fresh after his HF start. So if Sups under-estimate Hulk, Hulk can maybe place the punch that will end the fight.

I say 9/10 Sups if he goes Bloodlusted and "Oh shit you are a menace that I must put down"

and 5/10 or lower for Sups if Sups goes "You hurted my friend so I'll make you suffer!"

Whether you like it or not, Hulk does have a base level. This is why Thor can match him on for hours, right? Superman would do the same.

It's pathetic for you to even think that Hulk can't be killed by someone like Superman, especially going bloodlusted

Originally posted by Sin I AM
feat and everything else was speculated) giving as good as he gets. Also is Clark fighting crazy ala beserker Logan. Or is he just not "holding back" and using ice breath, heat vision, super speed, and super strength at the same time? That would help me chose a victor more wisely.

i think the OP want's us to assume it's the superman powerset vs WWH, CISless clark i suppose, so icey breath/h.v/fastest combat speed at his strongest type thing.

Where is it shown his combat speed at ftl?

Not sure if a combat speed is ftl, but i think it should be assumed that his movement on the battlefield will be at his peak - take that how you like - andhis punches should be potentially fatser than hulk can react to. So in a sense whenever he;s not hitting hulk, he's moving around faster than hulk can see.

Thats what i get from "all-out" anyway.

An all out Superman is something like how he fought Imperiex. Just moving at FOL around him using punches HV and CB. At the same time hitting harder and not holding back.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
First of, Thor killed Hulk by snapping his neck.

That happened in a What if 😐

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That happened in a What if 😐

Supes.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
And Im not saying that gettin hit at that speed wouldnt be a good strategy, i just dont believe fisticuffs would put him down.

Do you consider Thor a poor imitation?

why not? superman is one of the best in the business, and can hit hard and fast combined together better than most.

i don't consider thor to be like superman at all. he's not the same type of character.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Against him:
- Eventually, can tire

only if he uses up his already stored days (plural) worth of solar energy, and has no access to the sun.

also, why can't superman kill hulk?

Ok close thread.

^ fuzzy warm feelings and stuff*

Originally posted by xJLxKing
facepalm

👇

Crossovers are non-canon. Not to mention the very next panel, Hulk's strength began to grow and he started to budge Superman. Fighting the Prof Hulk, Superman got knocked around, and Superman admitted it took everything he had to knock Hulk out.

Originally posted by Master Court
Crossovers are non-canon. Not to mention the very next panel, Hulk's strength began to grow and he started to budge Superman. Fighting the Prof Hulk, Superman got knocked around, and Superman admitted it took everything he had to knock Hulk out.

Originally posted by -Pr-

also, why can't superman kill hulk?

Healing Factor. Unless Sups can come with something to overcome forever the monstruous HF of Hulk, but it's unlikely

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Healing Factor. Unless Sups can come with something to overcome forever the monstruous HF of Hulk, but it's unlikely

Originally posted by Master Court
Crossovers are non-canon. Not to mention the very next panel, Hulk's strength began to grow and he started to budge Superman. Fighting the Prof Hulk, Superman got knocked around, and Superman admitted it took everything he had to knock Hulk out.

You know the guy that wrote that crossover started out writing for Marvel Avengers, then switched to writing Superman for 10 years and then came back to writing Avengers and The Incredible Hulk?

If theres any author that should know the two characters well, its the author of that crossover.

Yea, I know still non-canon right? But still, it might change your mind knowing it was written by someone who knew their sh1t.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman says stuff like that all the day. Her eare but a few
-Saying Icon hits harder then anyone he has ever fought
-Saying MM is the stronger then the entire JLA

Well, he also once thought to himself that Hulk is stronger than anyone he's ever faced. Having thought it, and not said it, makes it more likely to be true in Supes opinion. That's two instances of Superman giving props to Hulk. Not to mention Supes has fought people stronger than himself before. So if we take Supes at his word; if Enemy > Supes, and Hulk > Enemy, then Hulk > Supes. Only in strength, of course, if nothing else.

Originally posted by Placidity
Yea, I know still non-canon right? But still, it might change your mind knowing it was written by someone who knew their sh1t.

Yeah, I know all that. It doesn't make a difference. What mattered is who the fans voted for. It had nothing to do with feats, powers, track records. It's pretty much the same as the marks that infest KMC once in a while. They don't debate, they don't produce evidence, they just say "myguy is ehro and awsom i h8 other guy yousuck!!1"

Every time I see poor grammar, bad spelling, almost no punctuation, and absolutely no logical statements, I want to go eat a big pile of horse sh*t just to take my mind off it. In any case, the cross-overs are in no way consistent with the characters. A fight between Superman and Hulk would've been much more ferocious than that. But WWHulk, in my opinion, and barring BFR, can take Superman. Based on his performance against Sentry. Not that I'm comparing the power of Sentry to Superman, but rather how Hulk handled fighting someone with that kind of power-set.

And WWHulk, who is really World Breaker only holding back a massive bulk of his power, would trash Superman. Imagine the DOS Doomsday/Superman fight, but it turns out Doomsday was holding back a major portion of his power. A holding-back Hulk beat an all-out Sentry. Sentry may be < Superman, but still. The second WWHulk goes Super Saiyan, Superman is screwed. Especially when you consider that if Superman is going all out, Hulk probably will be too.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
According to your logic, who would?

A dude who can absorb gamma radiations, or who can output a lot of power, like a Thanos, or an Odin, or something in that range.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
A dude who can absorb gamma radiations, or who can output a lot of power, like a Thanos, or an Odin, or something in that range.