Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

Started by xJLxKing136 pages

I read the arc but again, a teleporter was opened and supes along with darkseid seen flash run out of it and where was it stated how fast the black racer was chasing flash?

Well, it was stated how fast you need to be going in order to outrun the BR. Guess what, you didn't read it. Maybe you forgot?

I agree about superman strength feats but I want jlking to post some recent things so that I can match them or surpass them.

You post, it's up to you to start a challenge. Not me

Didnt read what confused It was never stated that flash came out of the portal going light speed. He achieved light speed at the moment darkseid attacked him. Again darkseid seen flash along with supes so you are basically saying that darkseid reflexes and site is also at the speed of light. Now if you agree with this then why didnt darkseid guard himself against a blitz coming from that same flash going light speed. sad

You should read the story better. It will make you less of an idiot 😛

Superman cant achieve light speed ANYWHERE. All of his light speed showings are in space. Hell, his last light speed showing the author made it plain and clear that he could only do it in space.

Post where that was stated. I already posted the reason why he DOESN"T go SOL on earth.

I understand that he couldnt see far but I could have sworn that supes stated that earth atmosphere takes a toll on his powers, I could be wrong but the atmosphere affecting his powers, thats pretty much plain and clear. Only fans scream out that supes can fight at light speed when the only true showing of his max speed during combat was that of the speed of sound (when he was creating sonic booms with his punches). Now if anyone can show me a feat surpassing that I would love to see it.

Go check on his respect thread. There are a few feats

How about you post a scan of superman strength feat and I'll post one. Hell if you want, I'll post the first scan and I would love for you to match it and I'm not talking about classic feats, I want us to use up to date strength feats.

Go ahead

The bomb that transformed Banner into the hulk wasnt a NUKE, where did you get that from. That bomb that transformed banner had special properties to it that mixed in with his blood. It was stated throughout the arc that bombs couldnt hurt hulk, not special types of bomb, just BOMBS. Nukes consist of radiation and heat, superman heat vision has the same properties. Like I said before, supes better hope he doesnt power the hulk up.

hahahah. First of, Nuclear bomb and a HV aren't the same. If you can take a dose from a radiation and nothing happens to you then that's good. But what happens when the radiation is increased by 1000000? You can't expect it to have the same affect. Unless you can prove otherwise? can you?? Otherwise I can post scans of Superman absorbing lighting. Does this mean he can absorb any amount? Of course not!!!!!!!!

Human torch went NOVA on the hulk and the hulk was unfazed. That thing you brought up about the scientist description of supermans heat, thats hyperbole and even if it wasnt I'm pretty sure it still wouldnt have any kind of impact on the hulk since the hulk has walked through ghost riders hellfire, Sentry's heat attacks, Human torch nova blast, the core of a planet, etc....

Again you are stating crap. Where does it say that HT went Nova? What does Sentry's heat attack mean to Superman? nothing.

Even though I said that supes would get decimated by wwh, I also think that supes could land the first blow, especially with how cocky wwh was. Even though I said that hulk could hit supes, I never said that supes was slow. With that said, superman could easily bfr hulk

Don't suger coat things. I know what you meant

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Well, it was stated how fast you need to be going in order to outrun the BR. Guess what, you didn't read it. Maybe you forgot?

You post, it's up to you to start a challenge. Not me

You should read the story better. It will make you less of an idiot 😛

Post where that was stated. I already posted the reason why he DOESN"T go SOL on earth.

Go check on his respect thread. There are a few feats

Go ahead

hahahah. First of, Nuclear bomb and a HV aren't the same. If you can take a dose from a radiation and nothing happens to you then that's good. But what happens when the radiation is increased by 1000000? You can't expect it to have the same affect. Unless you can prove otherwise? can you?? Otherwise I can post scans of Superman absorbing lighting. Does this mean he can absorb any amount? Of course not!!!!!!!!

Again you are stating crap. Where does it say that HT went Nova? What does Sentry's heat attack mean to Superman? nothing.

Don't suger coat things. I know what you meant

Human torch went nova
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/confirmationoftorchnova.jpg

And I'll post some RECENT strength feats.

Originally posted by carver9
Human torch went nova
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/confirmationoftorchnova.jpg

And I'll post some RECENT strength feats.


Thank you, you just won me my argument 😉
Next time don't contradict yourself.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Thank you, you just won me my argument 😉
Next time don't contradict yourself.

LOL, you're hilarious, dont see how I won you an argument but hey.

I'm going to start off slow with strength feats (dont show me any strength=flight=durability feats. Nothing but strength feats.)

This is a simple one.

Hulk is one handing a space ship
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength1.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, you're hilarious, dont see how I won you an argument but hey.

I'm going to start off slow with strength feats (dont show me any strength=flight=durability feats. Nothing but strength feats.)

This is a simple one.

Hulk is one handing a space ship
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength1.jpg


Let me be more clear.
You stated that Heat, and radiation increases Hulk's power overall? Correct? You just proved that HT went Nova, which is just what a sun is. They both have the same molecules. A sun is basically a explosion that doesn't stop for a long time; in other words a self sustaining explosion. That's what a nuclear bomb is. That's what Human Torch was doing. So how come the Sun, or the nova wasn't powering Hulk up? That just shows you contradicted yourself. In addition, you also said heat and radiation increase his strength too, yet if lighting hits Hulk, will it power him? Of course not.

How heavy, or big is that ship? Otherwise, it's kind hard to argue the point. Right?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Let me be more clear.
You stated that Heat, and radiation increases Hulk's power overall? Correct? You just proved that HT went Nova, which is just what a sun is. They both have the same molecules. A sun is basically a explosion that doesn't stop for a long time; in other words a self sustaining explosion. That's what a nuclear bomb is. That's what Human Torch was doing. So how come the Sun, or the nova wasn't powering Hulk up? That just shows you contradicted yourself. In addition, you also said heat and radiation increase his strength too, yet if lighting hits Hulk, will it power him? Of course not.

How heavy, or big is that ship? Otherwise, it's kind hard to argue the point. Right?

The only case of the Hulk getting stronger by radation was Maestro and that was only gamma thru a number of years if am not mistaken

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Let me be more clear.
You stated that Heat, and radiation increases Hulk's power overall? Correct? You just proved that HT went Nova, which is just what a sun is. They both have the same molecules. A sun is basically a explosion that doesn't stop for a long time; in other words a self sustaining explosion. That's what a nuclear bomb is. That's what Human Torch was doing. So how come the Sun, or the nova wasn't powering Hulk up? That just shows you contradicted yourself. In addition, you also said heat and radiation increase his strength too, yet if lighting hits Hulk, will it power him? Of course not.

How heavy, or big is that ship? Otherwise, it's kind hard to argue the point. Right?

How do you know if human torch didnt power hulk up 😕

I'm confused right now.

Hulk stood there unaffected by what human torch did so what point are you trying to make, I dont get it.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
The only case of the Hulk getting stronger by radation was Maestro and that was only gamma thru a number of years if am not mistaken

WWH was amped by cosmic radiation but I don't know when and where it was stated but he definately can't absorb every form of radiation, I'll try to find where it was stated

Originally posted by DarkOdin
The only case of the Hulk getting stronger by radation was Maestro and that was only gamma thru a number of years if am not mistaken

Carver is just trying to get a win in order to make Hulk more stronger then Superman. First he tries to make Superman look like his HV can't do damage, then his power, then his speed..Etc though, he ain't winning 😛

How do you know if human torch didnt power hulk up confused I'm confused right now. Hulk stood there unaffected by what human torch did so what point are you trying to make, I dont get it.

Do you know how much power a nova has? Look at Superman 😛 that's how much power.

WWH was amped by cosmic radiation? Was that one of the new reveals in Pak's latest hulk?

I always assumed that it was because his meditation kept the anger from fading. So whenever he became angry it would simply accumulate and make him stronger without ever disappearing.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
WWH was amped by cosmic radiation? Was that one of the new reveals in Pak's latest hulk?

I always assumed that it was because his meditation kept the anger from fading. So whenever he became angry it would simply accumulate and make him stronger without ever disappearing.

I'm not really sure I think I've read it somewhere if I can't find the issue/page just ignore what I've said

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Carver is just trying to get a win in order to make Hulk more stronger then Superman. First he tries to make Superman look like his HV can't do damage, then his power, then his speed..Etc though, he ain't winning 😛

Do you know how much power a nova has? Look at Superman 😛 that's how much power.

I never said superman strength wouldnt hurt hulk I said his heat vision would fail and it would. I admit superman is fast but again, hes not untouchable, hulk would land some licks.

Do you know how powerful and hot Ghost riders hell fire is, guess what, it had no effect on the hulk?

Do you know how hot sentry's heat is, guess what, it did nothing to the hulk?

Do you know how hot the core of a planet is, guess what, it did nothing to the hulk?

Do you know how hot human torch could turn it up, you want to know something, it did nothing to the hulk, he just stood there.

Superman only hope in a battle with the hulk is to fight him and thats where hes going to get dropped. I have showed you plenty of scans where hulk resisted heat, what makes superman heat anymore different. Like I said before, superman better pray that his heat vision does not empower hulk since it does possess radiation.

Here is another scan for you. Hulk throws a mountain size rock and destroys another mountain with it.

Then he beats up on a planet destroying a island (hes standing in volcanic heat, not even fased by it.)

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength3.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength4.jpg

Your turn.

I never said superman strength wouldnt hurt hulk I said his heat vision would fail and it would. I admit superman is fast but again, hes not untouchable, hulk would land some licks.

He is hard to hit by Hulk
Do you know how powerful and hot Ghost riders hell fire is, guess what, it had no effect on the hulk?

Do you?

Do you know how hot sentry's heat is, guess what, it did nothing to the hulk?

do you?

Do you know how hot the core of a planet is, guess what, it did nothing to the hulk?

Do you? That wouldn't hurt Superman at all. In fact, that ACTUALLY powers Superman up.

Do you know how hot human torch could turn it up, you want to know something, it did nothing to the hulk, he just stood there

=/=Sun

Here is another scan for you. Hulk throws a mountain size rock and destroys another mountain with it. Then he beats up on a planet destroying a island (hes standing in volcanic heat, not even fased by it.) http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...lkstrength3.jpg http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...lkstrength4.jpg Your turn.

I'll start collecting scans again. I'll take a while though

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He is hard to hit by Hulk

Do you?

do you?

Do you? That wouldn't hurt Superman at all. In fact, that ACTUALLY powers Superman up.

=/=Sun

I'll start collecting scans again. I'll take a while though

Hes not hard to hit by hulk at all.

Again I ask, if all of these heat attacks wasnt even registered by the hulk, what makes superman heat vision so special and I will be waiting on those RECENT superman scans. 💃

Originally posted by carver9
Hes not hard to hit by hulk at all.

Again I ask, if all of these heat attacks wasnt even registered by the hulk, what makes superman heat vision so special and I will be waiting on those RECENT superman scans. 💃

First off, you are makings assumptions that they are very hot. You need to prove HOW hot, otherwise it stupid to use them. Imagine me using a scan where it says Superman was hit by a train going fast. Okay? how fast was it going? fast!!! That doesn't answer the question. Get it?
How recent are you talking about

Originally posted by xJLxKing
First off, you are makings assumptions that they are very hot. You need to prove HOW hot, otherwise it stupid to use them. Imagine me using a scan where it says Superman was hit by a train going fast. Okay? how fast was it going? fast!!! That doesn't answer the question. Get it?
How recent are you talking about

2007 and up recent.

Human torch going nova is good enough and hell fire, it has been stated that its heat isnt even on the charts, it cant be measured.

Sentry is powered by the sun (not powered by but his energy is described as being equal to that of the sun) so its pretty much common sense how hot he was.

I shouldnt have to explain how hot the planets core is.

Superman heat vision can reach the temperature of the core of the sun, what was said about superman energy from those scientist was hyperbole.

Human torch going nova is good enough and hell fire, it has been stated that its heat isnt even on the charts, it cant be measured.

Nova can mean 3700 C, so that's not huge.
The chart thing is impressive

Sentry is powered by the sun (not powered by but his energy is described as being equal to that of the sun) so its pretty much common sense how hot he was.

That's not how it works. Cain is powered by the Gem, does that mean he is as strong as the Gem? Of Course not. Superman is powered by the Sun, yet his HV is hotter. Get it?

I shouldnt have to explain how hot the planets core is.

It's not as impressive as you'd think

Superman heat vision can reach the temperature of the core of the sun, what was said about superman energy from those scientist was hyperbole.

So now you are going to be saying everything is a hyperbole. Then I can say it's not. You're going to have to take it as is.

2007 and up recent.

Superman's history takes over 70 years and you except me to only use the last 24 months? You are out of your mind

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Nova can mean 3700 C, so that's not huge.
The chart thing is impressive

That's not how it works. Cain is powered by the Gem, does that mean he is as strong as the Gem? Of Course not. Superman is powered by the Sun, yet his HV is hotter. Get it?

It's not as impressive as you'd think

So now you are going to be saying everything is a hyperbole. Then I can say it's not. You're going to have to take it as is.

Superman's history takes over 70 years and you except me to only use the last 24 months? You are out of your mind

The thing is, when they say Human torch is going nova that means that hes giving it everything hes got and we know what temperatures that is at.

Heat vision isnt hotter, stop saying that until you have some kind of proof besides one scan from some scientist. I can put up a scan where some scientist states that black adam is more powerful than supes, would you agree with it or is it hyperbole.

LOL, I understand how long supes been out but the thing is, superman powers fluctuate. I honestly think that he has been depowered recently due to numerous of reasons. Thats why I'm asking you for recent showings because I dont think he has any.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman's history takes over 70 years and you except me to only use the last 24 months? You are out of your mind

wasn't the crisis on infinity earths (the first one) some kind of retcon?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
wasn't the crisis on infinity earths (the first one) some kind of retcon?

Yeah, not for everyone though. Still that was over 2 decades ago. And Carver expects me only to use the last 2 years.

The thing is, when they say Human torch is going nova that means that hes giving it everything hes got and we know what temperatures that is at.

Which is?

Heat vision isnt hotter, stop saying that until you have some kind of proof besides one scan from some scientist. I can put up a scan where some scientist states that black adam is more powerful than supes, would you agree with it or is it hyperbole.

In this case, the scientist have devices to measure the temperature of the sun, and Superman's heat vision. Besides there was a scan where Superman powered a sun with his HV

LOL, I understand how long supes been out but the thing is, superman powers fluctuate. I honestly think that he has been depowered recently due to numerous of reasons. Thats why I'm asking you for recent showings because I dont think he has any.

What gives you the reason to say he has been de-powered?