Originally posted by Juk3n
didnt mean to come off like that, my bad.If WWH reacts and has a combat speed of anything close to FTL, then thats a game changer here. I didnt get that impression for the sentry fight, he kept up with an attempted blitz. But hulk having some measure of superspeed attributed to his powerset i can accept blindly, but now the debate has entered the realm of FTL - or close too - reflexes/movement/combat speeds, are we just accpeting he can do it at will? Or can we label it a PIS moment and bad showing for Sentry? Maybe Sentry going all out isnt that fast in the first place? Could we not label it a PIS moment for Hulk, and an extremely high end showing - one off?
Hes been able to swat objects moving at supersonic speeds at close range, it could be said to be a high end reflex feat.
Originally posted by Juk3n
Afterall if he can move his limbs at near FTL speeds, where does that statement stop? How fast does that mean he can run? I mean his weight is a non factor because he can lift in excess of 200 tons, so we COULD say he's weightless-with consideration to how much he can lift, AND can move his legs at near ftl speeds, is he now a certified Blurster like Quicksilver? Ya know?
Sorry doesn't work like that. WW can take massive blunt force trauma but cant take sharp objects. Hulk cant run FTL but could possibly move his limbs at FTL, thats just the way the cookie crumbles.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Hes been able to swat objects moving at supersonic speeds at close range, it could be said to be a high end reflex feat.
Sorry doesn't work like that. WW can take massive blunt force trauma but cant take sharp objects. Hulk cant run FTL but could possibly move his limbs at FTL, thats just the way the cookie crumbles.
It's funny how everyone can use scans or feat to try and win their argument. It's all assumptions. GIVE SCANS or Bequite
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Scans or shut it
Y'know you've got a serious attitude problem. I could scan them but since you want to be a jerk im not going to bother.
Originally posted by xJLxKingNo, you are just assuming. And you know what they say when you Assume; that you are a *****.
It's funny how everyone can use scans or feat to try and win their argument. It's all assumptions. GIVE SCANS or Bequite
No im not assuming anything. Interestingly enough I wasn't assuming anything about Human Torch's abilties and I turned out to be correct now all of a sudden your making the assumption im assuming......wow.
Originally posted by -Pr-
and superman's strength, and superman's speed to boot.
and I think that needs to be taken with a punch of salt. Despite his strength being incalucable other people seem stronger than him eg Mongul, Doomsday and those guys seem much like hulk.
I also cant see Supermans HV doing that much if WWH can take Human Torch's supernova like it was nothing.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i don't think they are comparable, personally.
I think I know what you mean. Sentry's charge was not a speedblitz but if WWH can easily take 1 he could take more with difficulty.
To be fair Sentry cleary ahs superhuman speed but you dont always get drawn a certain way to indicate it.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Scans or shut it
What the hell here are the scans but serioulsy need to work on your debating etiquette ( at least wait for somebody to say something stupid before being rude). Heres him catching and swating missles.
http://mynetimages.com/viewimage/9680475c
http://mynetimages.com/viewimage/136b9473
http://mynetimages.com/viewimage/743f966b
Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, you are just assuming. And you know what they say when you Assume; that you are a *****.It's funny how everyone can use scans or feat to try and win their argument. It's all assumptions. GIVE SCANS or Bequite
Er no he was using strength to move his hand at 1/9th the speed of light and he was calm. that therefore means if he got pissed he can move his limbs many times the speed of light.
http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/6548/hulksuperspeedbj7.jpg
"The Hulk has banner's brain due to Modoks attacks. Modok has a virus. In order to make the antidote, the vials must be placed in a centrifuge for 40 hours at 40,000 rpm's.
You can buy a centrifuge online that does 6000 rpm and produces 6000 g's. The comic centrifuge would be doing about 12000 g's easily.
The Hulk does in 8 minutes, what the centrifuge would do in 40 hours. He would be producing 6 million 500 thousand(6,500,000) g's. His hands would have to vibrate at 1/9 the speed of light.
He does it with strength. He isn't even mad."
What the hell here are the scans but serioulsy need to work on your debating etiquette ( at least wait for somebody to say something stupid before being rude). Heres him catching and swating missles. http://mynetimages.com/viewimage/9680475c http://mynetimages.com/viewimage/136b9473 http://mynetimages.com/viewimage/743f966b
As for you scans, they aren't impressive. Two of them aren't even WWH which this argument is about. The other once is good, but he blocked one missle and the other one was going past him and not attacking him. Either way, I don't think I have to post scans of Superman easily catching bullets and missiles. I am sure you know Superman's speed, and reflexes are leagues above Hulks.
Er no he was using strength to move his hand at 1/9th the speed of light and he was calm. that therefore means if he got pissed he can move his limbs many times the speed of light. http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/...perspeedbj7.jpg "The Hulk has banner's brain due to Modoks attacks. Modok has a virus. In order to make the antidote, the vials must be placed in a centrifuge for 40 hours at 40,000 rpm's
and I think that needs to be taken with a punch of salt. Despite his strength being incalucable other people seem stronger than him eg Mongul, Doomsday and those guys seem much like hulk. I also cant see Supermans HV doing that much if WWH can take Human Torch's supernova like it was nothing.
And Superman's HV is hotter then 27 million. do you get the difference?
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and I think that needs to be taken with a punch of salt. Despite his strength being incalucable other people seem stronger than him eg Mongul, Doomsday and those guys seem much like hulk.I also cant see Supermans HV doing that much if WWH can take Human Torch's supernova like it was nothing.
I think I know what you mean. Sentry's charge was not a speedblitz but if WWH can easily take 1 he could take more with difficulty.
To be fair Sentry cleary ahs superhuman speed but you dont always get drawn a certain way to indicate it.
where is it stated that mongul or doomsday are stronger than him?
you don't think superman's HV could be more powerful than torch's nova?
as far as the fight with hulk goes, i don't honestly think sentry was trying to blitz him most of the time, but maybe that's just me.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I am not being rude. I am being direct. I don't want people claiming things like Hulk's limbs can move at FTL, and crap like that. That is just assuming. There weren't any indication that WWH can do that.
Yes there was read it again comprehend.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
As for you scans, they aren't impressive. Two of them aren't even WWH which this argument is about. The other once is good, but he blocked one missle and the other one was going past him and not attacking him. Either way, I don't think I have to post scans of Superman easily catching bullets and missiles. I am sure you know Superman's speed, and reflexes are leagues above Hulks.
Again you are wasting my time and nitpicking. It doesnt matter wether the other two werent WWH, WWH is simply a more powerful version. Obvously you dont understand the relevanmce of that if you cant understand simply concepts like that you dont get to be rude it just makes you look like a jackarse.
You asked for example of him swatting missles jackass, thats what you got. You were claming I was making shit up.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
That's not speed though. That's strength. Two different things.
LOL im not going to get into semantics with you. You wanted scans to prove that he can move his limbs at FTL thats it. It doesnt mattter how he does it the scans still prove that it can be done via strength, so I wasnt assuming anything and you dont get to me an arsehole.
How he does it was not up for debate its wether he could do it or not.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
He has beaten those guys you mentioned, so what your point?
How many time do i have to say this. Superman's HV is concentrated and it much hotter then the Sun. Nova from human torch can only reach 1 million F. THAT'S NOTHING!! Our Sun's core is 27 million F http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/kids_space/suntemp.htmlAnd Superman's HV is hotter then 27 million. do you get the difference?
Fine and WWH can increase his durability and strength to be billions of times greater than his baseline.
Originally posted by -Pr-
where is it stated that mongul or doomsday are stronger than him?
Ermm you saw the fight that Superman had with Doomsday in Hunter Prey, if you were gonna bet who do you think was stronger?
Furthermore I could add General to that list considering how that fight went its obvious who was stronger?
Originally posted by -Pr-
you don't think superman's HV could be more powerful than torch's nova?
Not what I said.
Originally posted by -Pr-
as far as the fight with hulk goes, i don't honestly think sentry was trying to blitz him most of the time, but maybe that's just me.
Yes I know but as I stated....
Yes there was read it again comprehend.
Again you are wasting my time and nitpicking. It doesnt matter wether the other two werent WWH, WWH is simply a more powerful version. Obvously you dont understand the relevanmce of that if you cant understand simply concepts like that you dont get to be rude it just makes you look like a jackarse. You asked for example of him swatting missles jackass, thats what you got. You were claming I was making shit up.
LOL im not going to get into semantics with you. You wanted scans to prove that he can move his limbs at FTL thats it. It doesnt mattter how he does it the scans still prove that it can be done via strength, so I wasnt assuming anything and you dont get to me an arsehole. How he does it was not up for debate its wether he could do it or not.
how about I post Superman building a city in mere seconds. That's easily FTL fighting! hahahah
get out of here!
Fine and WWH can increase his durability and strength to be billions of times greater than his baseline.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ermm you saw the fight that Superman had with Doomsday in Hunter Prey, if you were gonna bet who do you think was stronger?
Furthermore I could add General to that list considering how that fight went its obvious who was stronger?Not what I said.
Yes I know but as I stated....
Hunter Prey was years ago. Both characters have changed since then, Superman moreso with a huge upgrade.
The General? As in Eiling? Superman was hv'ing limbs off with no difficulty, only to have them grow back. Eiling had the superior HF, but bar that, i don't think there was that much of a gap.
Again, that was before Superman's upgrade.
I know what you said, that's why i asked. I thought that was what you were implying.
i just don't think Sentry has the quality of speed feats that put him on Superman's level. Plus, how often does Sentry fight people with proven combat speed? Just don't think the Hulk can hang with Superman when it comes to speed...
Ermm you saw the fight that Superman had with Doomsday in Hunter Prey, if you were gonna bet who do you think was stronger? Furthermore I could add General to that list considering how that fight went its obvious who was stronger?
Not what I said.
It's nothing!
BTW: Superman's battle rock a solar system. Never has Hulk done that.
