Originally posted by D_A_R_E
I do love the 89 Bats, but I like Batman Begins better. It breaks Bats down a lot better than the 89 film.
Thats one of the reasons I prefer Batman Forever over the first Batman film is Batman Forever FINALLY was all about Batman for a change instead of being all about the villians with Batman being just a supporting character.Batman Forever explained his origin story and why he dressed up like a bat which SHOULD have been explained in the first film.Its the origin story for god sakes.Forever is the only Batman movie of the Burton/Schumacher travesty that I can tolerate.Thank god for Nolan,he erased that horrible Burton/Schumacher nightmare franchise from my memory for me. 💃
Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Begins. No contest. Burton basically took a shit on Batman with his movies.
I find it funny that people who hate it NEVER bring up the fact that it spawned BTAS, a whole generation's "dark Batman", and, to a lesser extent, made Batman Begins possible...
Batman 1989 was revolutionary for Batman's image with mainstream viewers... They didn't read comics, so they didn't know about Batman's return to his roots... They still thought of Adam West "bow, biff, and zam" every time they heard "Batman"... Whether you hate it or love it, it made the mainstream notice Batman as a dark, brooding, creature of the night...
Just because it wasn't "OMGZ MODURN BATMANZ!!!" and because it wasn't as good a movie doesn't mean it doesn't deserve credit...
Exactly Batdude the lack of respect for Batman 1989 is rather baffling considering it saved Batman from being remembered as a homoerotic dancing buffoon. But I guess because the Joker killed Batman's parents in 1989 and he had machine guns on his car and Michael Keaton was not a fan boy's Adonis then the merits of that action alone are non existant to some.
You can here a few cuts from the score at the official site:
http://www.warnerbrosrecords.com/thedarkknight/
Check out Why So Serious, which has a bit of the Jokers theme, methinks.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
You can here a few cuts from the score at the official site:http://www.warnerbrosrecords.com/thedarkknight/
Check out Why So Serious, which has a bit of the Jokers theme, methinks.
Shouldn't this go in the Current Status thread?
Originally posted by batmanfan136
i ad mitt fully that without Burton's movie there would be no batman the animated series and helped bring batman back to what he should be but that does not cover up the fact that it also had a ton of flows almost to the point were it almost wasn't even batman
First, Jack did the same playing jack torrance than the joker, the only difference was the makeup. When Jack is playing a crazy dude, he always behaves like he is with the same gesture. Only post to his joker some sunglasses and you will have jack being jack. He did the same that he usually does when he is in a Lakers game.
I remember we used to have these discussions in 2005/2006... 3 years later, we're STILL talking about it...
Let's bury the hatchet...
Begins was a leap in the right direction, but B89 dragged Batman tv shows/movies back into serious territory...
The Begins fans can watch Begins, the B89 fans can watch B89, and the ones who like and accept both (me), can watch both...
Now close this thread...
I suppose we can if you all would like.
Like I said, I enjoyed Batman '89 as a kid and still like it today, but feel that Begins is leaps and bounds better in every area.
The results of the poll (currently) are as follows:
Begins is better: 72.41%
Batman '89 is better: 17.24%
They are the same: 10.34%
So results are the same here as with audiences, critics, and most geeks: Batman Begins is better than Batman '89.