Originally posted by bakerboy
Jack Torrance and the Joker( not Napier), are behaving exatly the same. And is the same than Randall Patrick Mcmurphy. Jack, when plays a crazy dude, always does the same kind of performance.
What would be the point? It's clear to most anyone that Jack Torrance the axe wielding murderer is nothing like the Joker. Jack lost his mine and tried to axe his whole family and froze to death. He didn't get disfigured, didn't take over the mob, didn't terrorize the city, didn't take pleasure in defacing artwork, didn't tell a bunch of jokes, didn't try to poison the whole town, wasn't obsessed with Batman...the characters were nothing alike except Jack Nicholson played them both. This is just like when people who don't like Will Smith act like all his characters are all exactly the same.
Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
What would be the point? It's clear to most anyone that Jack Torrance the axe wielding murderer is nothing like the Joker. Jack lost his mine and tried to axe his whole family and froze to death. He didn't get disfigured, didn't take over the mob, didn't terrorize the city, didn't take pleasure in defacing artwork, didn't tell a bunch of jokes, didn't try to poison the whole town, wasn't obsessed with Batman...the characters were nothing alike except Jack Nicholson played them both. This is just like when people who don't like Will Smith act like all his characters are all exactly the same.
Dear darling, what are you talking about? Obviulsy, the stories were different. Same with mcmurphy, he was in a mental asylum and nurse Rached wasnt batman. What a great discover. What im talking about is Jack's way of playing those kind of insane characters. He always does the same, same smile, same way of behaving, same kind of gesture and body expression, etc. Same with the guy that he played in Easy Ryder. Same with his character in the departed or his character in that adam sandler movie or the same with his character in terms of endameint or his character in that movie with Morgan Freeman. When is some kind of crazy in a movie, he always does the same that he does in a Lakers game or in an oscars ceremony. Just the same. Same gesture, same smile , just the same.
For that, Usually Jack is Jack in almost all his movies. Ok, he is great, he is cool, but he is almost always jack. At least in movies like chinatown he tried and he did it in a different way, but not in those movies. I was hoping that his joker would say in some scene" here is johnyyyyyyyyyy".
Originally posted by Bat Dude
I remember we used to have these discussions in 2005/2006... 3 years later, we're STILL talking about it...Let's bury the hatchet...
Begins was a leap in the right direction, but B89 dragged Batman tv shows/movies back into serious territory...
The Begins fans can watch Begins, the B89 fans can watch B89, and the ones who like and accept both (me), can watch both...
Now close this thread...
yeah WHY did you have to create this thread Sith? 😠 this discussion has been done to death.its been going on endlessly for the past three years.Thats why I agree with BatDude,that this thread,along with that Begins Horrible invention thread, should be closed.It would nice to be able to come here and talk about news for the upcoming Batman movie without all this constant talk about past Batman movies.
1.) I made the thread to get a current poll of fans feelings. It's been 3 years. People have seen Begins enough to let it set in, excitement fade, and see how it is as a film after multiple viewings over time. Which is what they all have already for Batman '89. So here they can have a better objective opinion on and vote.
2.) You can't expect to come to this forum and only talk about TDK. It's called the BATMAN forum, not TDK forum. We talk about all the movies here, not just the newest one.
3.) You seem a bit foolish coming in with some red smilie face asking for the thread to be closed, when you posted a total of TEN TIMES, making you the single biggest poster/contributor to the thread.
Have a nice day, n00b. 🙂
Well said...
I prefer Batman Begins. One of the things I didn't like about Burton's Batman is how he gave Gotham a sort of "gothic" look...And it really looked dated to me. Sort of old fashioned. I dunno why but watching B89 gives me the impression Batman is going to be taking on Gangsters with Tommy Guns, driving the old style vehicles.
I also didn't like how it was portrayed in B89 that it was the Joker who killed Wayne's parents. But then I didn't like the fact that they caught the killer of Thomas and Martha in Begins...
Both film had bad points as well as good, and I cannot state them all here.
It's really hard to find the right balance in creating a comic book movie. It's never going to be 100% true to the source material. Despite that, I still rate Begins over B89. But that's my preference. If you like B89, you like it, if you like Begins you like Begins. If you like neither or both then cool. Each to their own.
Cheers for the poll.
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