Batman with gladiator powers vs superman

And just so that people understand where I'm coming from about Bats as a character. I've always loved the Bats as detective battling, insidious criminal threats in Gotham. He's never been an all action hero to me, and certainly his skills were not meant to be all action but based on concealment.

The Dark Knight in his roots, is not at all like a mainstream hero, he's a a lot like an indy mature hero. So I've always felt like with Loeb and others, in trying to translate a mainstream Bats they've sought of abandoned the core elements of his character. IMV Bats isn't a show pony and wouldn't even think of engaging DS even with a mother box he would know better than that, he'd run interference for an ally (flash bombs whatever) but never consider something so ridiculous.

Meh! If I get too irritated with current Bats, I always have the Question. I wish they'd do an AU on Rorschach.

double post

Originally posted by Allankles
I should have been more specific he doesn't have MV and I can't recall him ever using TV in conjunction which HV to take out a threat. Also no freezebreath or superbreath. And Glads loses fights Superman would win, he certainly hasn't shown himself to be the same level as Superman physically.

Without trying to assume Glads level based on supposition or expectation he's physically inferior to Superman - like a weaker Kryptonian.

before I judge your post, are you saying that glads dont have super breath or freeze breath (please say yes so that I can put up a scan). If you say yes, you truly know nothing of gladiator and dont deserve to post in this battle.

Originally posted by Allankles
And just so that people understand where I'm coming from about Bats as a character. I've always loved the Bats as detective battling, insidious criminal threats in Gotham. He's never been an all action hero to me, and certainly his skills were not meant to be all action but based on concealment.

The Dark Knight in his roots, is not at all like a mainstream hero, he's a a lot like an indy mature hero. So I've always felt like with Loeb and others, in trying to translate a mainstream Bats they've sought of abandoned the core elements of his character. IMV Bats isn't a show pony and wouldn't even think of engaging DS even with a mother box he would know better than that, he'd run interference for an ally (flash bombs whatever) but never consider something so ridiculous.

Meh! If I get too irritated with current Bats, I always have the Question. I wish they'd do an AU on Rorschach.

You still havent named me 3 top tiers that can beat superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Well why when hawkman hit superman with a punch that was stated as being hit by a planet did superman pass out? HMMMM 😕

You'd know if you'd had actually read the whole arc, or just up until issue 5.

Originally posted by Rorschach
You'd know if you'd had actually read the whole arc, or just up until issue 5.

I didnt see a presence of kryptonite and I know that superman got hit by a plot device but it was still mentioned that it felt as if he was hit by a planet. What part did I not mention in my post?

Originally posted by carver9
I didnt see a presence of kryptonite

There was Kryptonite radiation involved, just not a whole lot of it.

Originally posted by carver9
mentioned that it felt as if he was hit by a planet.

The only part you got right.

Originally posted by carver9
What part did I not mention in my post?

The part where it was revealed that Superman, and Batman weren't really knocked out. You also failed to mention that Superman had previously taken two punches from the magically empowered Captain Marvel.

Originally posted by Rorschach
There was Kryptonite radiation involved, just not a whole lot of it.

The only part you got right.

The part where it was revealed that Superman, and Batman weren't really knocked out. You also failed to mention that Superman had previously taken two punches from the magically empowered Captain Marvel.

Where was this krptonite at because Im pretty sure that they didnt need it since captain marvel>Superman.

Your opinion.

Superman was knocked out and isnt it everyone argument on the forum that superman is no longer affected by magic and he was never hit by 3 punches, he blocked a lot of captain marvel punches.

Originally posted by carver9
Where was this krptonite at because Im pretty sure that they didnt need it since captain marvel>Superman.

Have you actually read the comic? You’d know if you had. I’ll tell you where the radiation was coming from. After you tell me whether or not you actually read the comic, since I recall you once saying that you did.

Originally posted by carver9
Your opinion.

What actually took place in the comic is only my opinion?

Originally posted by carver9
Superman was knocked out

You obviously didn't read the entire arc.

Originally posted by carver9
and isnt it everyone argument on the forum that superman is no longer affected by magic

No. Some people believe that magic defense that the Phantom Stranger gave him (OYL) was permanent, I’m not one of them. Superman is still effected by magic, it just isn’t an instant win over him.

Originally posted by carver9
and he was never hit by 3 punches, he blocked a lot of captain marvel punches.

I said he was hit twice, not thrice. And blocking one of Marvel’s punches doesn’t count as ‘a lot’.

Originally posted by carver9
before I judge your post, are you saying that glads dont have super breath or freeze breath (please say yes so that I can put up a scan). If you say yes, you truly know nothing of gladiator and dont deserve to post in this battle.

Who the fark do you think you are, freekin Arishem, to judge posts? Jesus Christ, relax, you sound like he forced himself on your baby sister or something 😬

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Who the fark do you think you are, freekin Arishem, to judge posts? Jesus Christ, relax, you sound like he forced himself on your baby sister or something 😬

You kind of took my post the wrong way, when I said judge I wasnt saying that I was judge mathis I was saying judge by me not reading his post right.

Wow, I guess its to early in the morning for you huh, 🙁

Vibe drinks always work.

Originally posted by Rorschach
Have you actually read the comic? You’d know if you had. I’ll tell you where the radiation was coming from. After you tell me whether or not you actually read the comic, since I recall you once saying that you did.

What actually took place in the comic is only my opinion?

You obviously didn't read the entire arc.

No. Some people believe that magic defense that the Phantom Stranger gave him (OYL) was permanent, I’m not one of them. Superman is still effected by magic, it just isn’t an instant win over him.

I said he was hit twice, not thrice. And blocking one of Marvel’s punches doesn’t count as ‘a lot’.

Yes I have read all of the comics, batman/Superman is one of the best ongoing comics out right now. I have recently stop at the part where superman and batman just found a facility underground that is stacked with kryptonite and superman is fighting 4 villains that is empowered by kryptonite and one of the villians is fight superman due to superman accidently killing his wife during his fight with doomsday. I own the comic that you are asking me about, I might just have to read over it again. I kind of have a feeling that you are telling the truth about it though because you are very knowledged at comics.

I read the entire arc, just could have easily forgot some of the parts since that book is almost or could be a year old.

understand, about the magic issue, just asking.

Originally posted by carver9
batman/Superman is one of the best ongoing comics out right now.

😆

Originally posted by carver9
I read the entire arc, just could have easily forgot some of the parts since that book is almost or could be a year old.

Remember that huge kryptonite asteroid that was heading towards Earth? The Asteroid that was mentioned several times during that particular arc? Yeah, the radiation from that asteroid was effecting Superman, albeit slightly. And in issue 5, it was revealed that Superman, and Batman hadn’t been really knocked out.

Originally posted by Rorschach
😆

Remember that huge kryptonite asteroid that was heading towards Earth? The Asteroid that was mentioned several times during that particular arc? Yeah, the radiation from that asteroid was effecting Superman, albeit slightly. And in issue 5, it was revealed that Superman, and Batman hadn’t been really knocked out.

So its funny that I like Batman/Superman more then a lot of comics out there. I like it because superman isnt holding back that much. When have you seen superman just punch through metallo and rip his kryptonite heart out.

You do know that that kryptonite asteroid had little to no affect on superman during that arc/fight. If anything it might dropped him down to like 95% of his ability, if that.

Originally posted by carver9
So its funny that I like Batman/Superman more then a lot of comics out there.

YES! IT IS!

Originally posted by llagrok
YES! IT IS!

That reminded me of the axe scene from American Psycho.

Edit : http://youtube.com/watch?v=O-hUkO13Fy8

Originally posted by carver9
So its funny that I like Batman/Superman more then a lot of comics out there. I like it because superman isnt holding back that much. When have you seen superman just punch through metallo and rip his kryptonite heart out.

Oh, ok. You like it because it features a Superman that 'doesn't hold back, much'. I like comics that are well written, regardless of what power-level characters are portrayed at.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know that that kryptonite asteroid had little to no affect on superman during that arc/fight.

Batman speculated that the radiation was affecting in issue 04, and again in 05. In issue 05, it was made pretty clear that the radiation was affecting Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
If anything it might dropped him down to like 95% of his ability, if that.

Even if the number you pulled out of your ass is correct, it still doesn't change the fact that Superman wasn't at 100%, and that he wasn't really knocked out.

Originally posted by Rorschach
Oh, ok. You like it because it features a Superman that 'doesn't hold back, much'. I like comics that are well written, regardless of what power-level characters are portrayed at.

Batman speculated that the radiation was affecting in issue 04, and again in 05. In issue 05, it was made pretty clear that the radiation was affecting Superman.

Even if the number you pulled out of your ass is correct, it still doesn't change the fact that Superman wasn't at 100%, and that he wasn't really knocked out.

Whats wrong with the way it is written, the only incident that I thought was under written was when superman one shotted despero. Everybody has there own opinions. I enjoy the story line.

I know batman said that but to what degree was superman affected.

I did make the numbers up but again to what degree was superman affected.

Originally posted by carver9
Whats wrong with the way it is written

It's written horribly. There's like one good issue, and the two annuals, which actually are quite well written.

Originally posted by carver9
the only incident that I thought was under written was when superman one shotted despero.

So, it's all about power with you.

I know batman said that but to what degree was superman affected.

Originally posted by carver9
tI did make the numbers up but again to what degree was superman affected.

Enough to check if Power Girl (Who he thought might be a Kryptonian) was also affected. By issue 06 Superman was visibly affected.

Originally posted by Rorschach
It's written horribly. There's like one good issue, and the two annuals, which actually are quite well written.

So, it's all about power with you.

I know batman said that but to what degree was superman affected.

Enough to check if Power Girl (Who he thought might be a Kryptonian) was also affected. By issue 06 Superman was visibly affected.

well thats your opinion on the story. I think that its a good story line but youre not the only one that said that its written terribly.

Its not about power, who wouldnt like a book where superman isnt holding back. Thats why wolverine is so popular because he dont mind killing when the time is necessary.

Good point.