Warlogog Vs Infinity Gauntlet

Started by Ouallada5 pages
Ouallada Senior Member
Originally posted by King Kandy
Who says that the fraction (piece) is still infinite? If there's an infinite set of odd numbers, and I remove the 1 3 and 5, then I took a piece of something infinite... and that piece is certainly not infinite.

Kandy, it works something like this. Infinity by definition is a continuous, neverending progression. You can't halve an infinite number, because to do so would stop the progression (and you cannot halve a continually pregressing function), rendering the halved number finite, and thus the whole "half of infinity" thing meaningless.

In comics, though, I tend to subscribe to the view that there are levels of "infinity", if you will. The 'gog, while not infinite in the true meaning of the word, is only not so based on a technicality. It's still pretty damn powerful. I place it more around UN level, though.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Ouallada

Read above for my thoughts.


I did, very nice.
Originally posted by Ouallada

Empowerment by association.


cheers
Originally posted by Ouallada

In any case, I don't think we have much more to discuss here.


If it's not about comics, Marvel preferably, then I agree.
Originally posted by Ouallada

As mentioned, anything you felt was personal wasn't meant that way. Cool?


Cool.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by King Kandy
Who says that the fraction (piece) is still infinite?
I've stated my opinion on this a few times - not doing it again. 🙂

Originally posted by King Kandy
If there's an infinite set of odd numbers, and I remove the 1 3 and 5, then I took a piece of something infinite... and that piece is certainly not infinite.
Trying to wrap numbers around the concept of infinity is pointless imo.

King Kandy Senior Member

I just demonstrated that a piece of something infinite can be finite... of course you will ignore me and continue to state that since the Worlogog came from something infinite is must itself be infinite.

You know that THOTU powers all energy in the MU (or it did, anyway)? I guess that means that any lightbulb is as powerful as THOTU.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by King Kandy
I just demonstrated that a piece of something infinite can be finite... of course you will ignore me and continue to state that since the Worlogog came from something infinite is must itself be infinite.
I've not ignored a thing.

For the last time, here's the principle [as used in comics]..

If you have a variable of truly infinite energy [the Source in this case], then you tear off a fragment of that truly infinite energy [the 'gog] - the 'gog in turn, would be infinite as well. If it weren't, then the Source's energy would've never been infinite to begin with.

Anyhow, that's basically how I've seen this dilemma depicted in comics. Don't shoot the messenger. 🙂

Originally posted by King Kandy
You know that THOTU powers all energy in the MU (or it did, anyway)?
Where was that stated?

King Kandy Senior Member

Thanos stated it was the source of all energy and that he'd used math to discover it's existence. I'll see if I can find the scan.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by King Kandy
Thanos stated it was the source of all energy and that he'd used math to discover it's existence. I'll see if I can find the scan.
I remember Thanos stating that the Heart contained infinite energy - but I don't remember him saying it powered the MU. 😕

King Kandy Senior Member

The scans out there. I'll find it.

quanchi112 Disney
TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

The godwave is part of the source, and guess what powers every super-power in the DCU? We've seen what Timazo and Extant did with the Gog, or at least part of it's power. To compare that to the UN is a joke. It's IG level. Whether it's stronger than the IG or not is up for debate. But it's easily around the same level.

Quan: That does not prove that it's the marvel equivalent of the Godwave.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

The scan quanchi posted doesn't say anything about the heart powering Marvel.

And I agree for the most part Trick. Metron knows of objects such as the Genesis Box, which can "unmake a universe with a whisper." Yet he still refered to the 'gog as the most powerful item in the universe.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The godwave is part of the source, and guess what powers every super-power in the DCU? We've seen what Timazo and Extant did with the Gog, or at least part of it's power. To compare that to the UN is a joke. It's IG level. Whether it's stronger than the IG or not is up for debate. But it's easily around the same level.

Quan: That does not prove that it's the marvel equivalent of the Godwave.

I wasnt saying it was the marvel equivalent of the godwave.

Heart>anything seen in comics.

Ig >worlogog as well imo.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy

The scans out there. I'll find it.


THOTI is/was:

"the Source from which all other power throughout Time & Space Springs"

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Here's Thanos' 2008 bio: (at the bottom)

(Marvel.com character bios are identical to the Handbooks)

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ..."

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Thanks Mr. M. Ok, so that proves it's at least on par with the godwave, or equivalent to it.

Quan: shut up troll. doped

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Thanks Mr. M.


👆
Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Ok, so that proves it's at least on par with the godwave, or equivalent to it.


If the godwave makes one the Supreme being of the DC omniverse, then absolutely.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Mr Master
THOTI is/was:

"the Source from which [b]all other power throughout Time & Space Springs"

====================================

Here's Thanos' 2008 bio: (at the bottom)

(Marvel.com character bios are identical to the Handbooks)

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ..." [/B]

Nicely done. I couldnt find the scans and didnt have the patience to search through every single page. Nice job Kandy and good memory.

Erik-Lensherr "The devil made me do it"

😏

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Thanks Mr. M. Ok, so that proves it's at least on par with the godwave, or equivalent to it.

Quan: shut up troll. doped

Nearly infinite isnt infinite.

Heart>Ig>godwave 🙂

Mr Master Junior Member

👆 .... Interesting, I have to agree.

btw. Is Fifth World a Universe?

Is that what the Godwave can destroy if it explodes?

Who's that dude calling it the power of the Presence?

Has anyone else ever made that claim,
or was that dude hyperbolizing, or simply mistaken?

(because the Presence should be drawn to be infinite ... not near-infinite)

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Mr Master
👆 .... Interesting, I have to agree.

btw. Is Fifth World a Universe?

Is that what the Godwave can destroy if it explodes?

Who's that dude calling it the power of the Presence?

Has anyone else ever made that claim,
or was that dude hyperbolizing, or simply mistaken?

(because the Presence should be drawn to be infinite ... not near-infinite)

My scan is from the title genesis while the scan erik put up is from a ww book. Ill pm you the other answers ok.

The presence is different than the source.