Originally posted by Mr Master
👆 .... Interesting, I have to agree.btw. Is Fifth World a Universe?
Is that what the Godwave can destroy if it explodes?
Who's that dude calling it the power of the Presence?
Has anyone else ever made that claim,
or was that dude hyperbolizing, or simply mistaken?(because the Presence should be drawn to be infinite ... not near-infinite)
Ignore Quan. He's biased against DC and won't give you a straight answer. 😉
Assuming the Fifth world shares the same properties as the 4th, it's a vast universe where planets in our universe are the size of marbles. Which gives you some idea of the New God's true scale. Also, it's completely separate from the main DCU.
The Godwave created all super powers and pantheons in the DCU. It was a burst of power originating from the Source. If it contracts (not explode), it destroys the universe and the 4th world with it.
The dude is Cronus, leader of the Titans, and he attempted to claim the power of the presence, since at that point he had overthrown most of heaven by stealing a portion of the godwave's power.
He was not hyperbolizing, he actually did try to take the power of the Presence. Asmodel is the only other being to attempt it, but Zauriel talked to him in the throne room and Asmodel realized that he couldn't win because the Presence was omnipresent and aware of all his actions.
Which is what happpened to Cronus. He thought he was taking the power of the presence, but the Presence chose to simply overload him with power and sensory overload. Basically, it was more than he could handle. Much like what happened when the Spectre attempted to become one with the Presence.
The Godwave is not the Presence, it is an aspect of the Source. The Source is a form of the Presence. The godwave is near-infinite, but again, the hyperbole should not be counted. What does count is that it is on-panel the power source for the super powers in the DCU.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestMy scan proves that the godwave that powers the dcu is near infinite. So the power that gives every superpowered being its power isnt infinite itself.
Ignore Quan. He's biased against DC and won't give you a straight answer. 😉Assuming the Fifth world shares the same properties as the 4th, it's a vast universe where planets in our universe are the size of marbles. Which gives you some idea of the New God's true scale. Also, it's completely separate from the main DCU.
The Godwave created all super powers and pantheons in the DCU. It was a burst of power originating from the Source. If it contracts (not explode), it destroys the universe and the 4th world with it.
The dude is Cronus, leader of the Titans, and he attempted to claim the power of the presence, since at that point he had overthrown most of heaven by stealing a portion of the godwave's power.
He was not hyperbolizing, he actually did try to take the power of the Presence. Asmodel is the only other being to attempt it, but Zauriel talked to him in the throne room and Asmodel realized that he couldn't win because the Presence was omnipresent and aware of all his actions.
Which is what happpened to Cronus. He thought he was taking the power of the presence, but the Presence chose to simply overload him with power and sensory overload. Basically, it was more than he could handle. Much like what happened when the Spectre attempted to become one with the Presence.
The Godwave is not the Presence, it is an aspect of the Source. The Source is a form of the Presence. The godwave is near-infinite, but again, the hyperbole should not be counted. What does count is that it is on-panel the power source for the super powers in the DCU.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestAssuming the Fifth world shares the same properties as the 4th, it's a vast universe where planets in our universe are the size of marbles. Which gives you some idea of the New God's true scale. Also, it's completely separate from the main DCU.
The Godwave created all super powers and pantheons in the DCU. It was a burst of power originating from the Source. If it contracts (not explode), it destroys the universe and the 4th world with it.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThe dude is Cronus, leader of the Titans, and he attempted to claim the power of the presence, since at that point he had overthrown most of heaven by stealing a portion of the godwave's power.
He was not hyperbolizing, he actually did try to take the power of the Presence. Asmodel is the only other being to attempt it, but Zauriel talked to him in the throne room and Asmodel realized that he couldn't win because the Presence was omnipresent and aware of all his actions.
Which is what happpened to Cronus. He thought he was taking the power of the presence, but the Presence chose to simply overload him with power and sensory overload. Basically, it was more than he could handle. Much like what happened when the Spectre attempted to become one with the Presence.
The Godwave is not the Presence, it is an aspect of the Source. The Source is a form of the Presence. The godwave is near-infinite, but again, the hyperbole should not be counted. What does count is that it is on-panel the power source for the super powers in the DCU.
Although, it was actually expected.. 😏
Thanx for the update,
do you have the scans to all this info,
if not, where can I find all this on panel?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ignore Quan. He's biased against DC and won't give you a straight answer. 😉Assuming the Fifth world shares the same properties as the 4th, it's a vast universe where planets in our universe are the size of marbles. Which gives you some idea of the New God's true scale. Also, it's completely separate from the main DCU.
The Godwave created all super powers and pantheons in the DCU. It was a burst of power originating from the Source. If it contracts (not explode), it destroys the universe and the 4th world with it.
The dude is Cronus, leader of the Titans, and he attempted to claim the power of the presence, since at that point he had overthrown most of heaven by stealing a portion of the godwave's power.
He was not hyperbolizing, he actually did try to take the power of the Presence. Asmodel is the only other being to attempt it, but Zauriel talked to him in the throne room and Asmodel realized that he couldn't win because the Presence was omnipresent and aware of all his actions.
Which is what happpened to Cronus. He thought he was taking the power of the presence, but the Presence chose to simply overload him with power and sensory overload. Basically, it was more than he could handle. Much like what happened when the Spectre attempted to become one with the Presence.
The Godwave is not the Presence, it is an aspect of the Source. The Source is a form of the Presence. The godwave is near-infinite, but again, the hyperbole should not be counted. What does count is that it is on-panel the power source for the super powers in the DCU.
I agree with this assessment. Tho something odd about the Godwave is that it was able to harm the source. Does this mean it was as powerful as the Source itself? It seems the Source is able to create things that surpass even it's own infinite might.
Originally posted by fangirl101When was it stated that the Source had infinite power?
I agree with this assessment. Tho something odd about the Godwave is that it was able to harm the source. Does this mean it was as powerful as the Source itself? It seems the Source is able to create things that surpass even it's own infinite might.
All of dcu's powers combined put together are less than infinite.
Originally posted by Galan007Darkseid's comments about the source being infinite is this what you meant? Is this your proof?
You just not look at anything other people post, or what?What are you talking about?
The godwave powers the entire dcu. If Darkseid was going to steal all of this power it still doesnt add up to limitless power. Genesis was quite a good read imo. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112Highfather's comment that the Godwave is nigh-infinite, seemed to be good enough for you. So why should a comment made by Darky concerning the Source being 'infinite' be any different? Double standard, much?
Darkseid's comments about the source being infinite is this what you meant? Is this your proof?
Originally posted by quanchi112The Godwave gave power to the Gods/Pantheons, downward. Never was it mentioned that beings > the above, were powered by it.
The godwave powers the entire dcu. If Darkseid was going to steal all of this power it still doesnt add up to limitless power. Genesis was quite a good read imo.
So your statement that 'all' DC's powers are < infinite, is incorrect. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007High Father described the situation. He wasnt just making some off comment about the Source being infinite. Darkseid wasnt talking about the Source's power level being infinite, so if you think the Source is post proof otherwise concede.
Highfather's comment that the Godwave is nigh-infinite, seemed to be good enough for you. So why should a comment made by Darky concerning the Source being 'infinite' be any different? Double standard, much?The Godwave gave power to the Gods/Pantheons, downward. Never was it mentioned that beings > the above, were powered by it.
So your statement that 'all' DC's powers are < infinite, is incorrect. 🙂
Ds with near infinte power could dominate all of the dcu. Heh.
Oan energy etc was affected by the godwave, whom do you think wasnt in the dcu exactly?
So you think its just all of the gods and superheroes on down correct?
Originally posted by quanchi112Considering what you're basing your argument on, this statement is laughable at best. 🙂
High Father described the situation. He wasnt just making some off comment about the Source being infinite.
Originally posted by quanchi112Why don't you post something but a comment concerning the GW being nigh-infinite? See, I can do that too. 🙂
Darkseid wasnt talking about the Source's power level being infinite, so if you think the Source is post proof otherwise concede.
Originally posted by quanchi112It says: "The great energy once channeled by the Guardians." Implying that they no longer utilize said energy. 🙂
Oan energy etc was affected by the godwave, whom do you think wasnt in the dcu exactly?
Originally posted by quanchi112In a nutshell. 🙂
So you think its just all of the gods and superheroes on down correct?
